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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Not sure how to post a photo, but go check out Marcus Yam @yamphoto on twitter. Crazy photo of spillway.
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wow thank you!! That REALLY shows what's going wrong. Is that water on the extreme left way up high? It looks like it's flowing <<<<<<<<
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5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media

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5 to 7 inches of rain coming tonight! not good might break tonight!!!
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C'mon man that won't even get us 20' below ES.
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its already damaged
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maybe the Dam won't burst until it's damaged some more?
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EM COM reporting there are logs jamming a couple of the MS gates.
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bump
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Not sure how to post a photo, but go check out Marcus Yam @yamphoto on twitter. Crazy photo of spillway.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Superb find AC. This looks to have been filmed very recently.
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Wow, it says filmed today.

So when scanner was saying 95% of flow to the left it is left side from the top. I'm going to have to retrain my brain.
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for the guys talking about the position of the tower on the park cam, This vid definitely shows there are towers to the right.
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5 to 7 inches of rain coming tonight! not good might break tonight!!!
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C'mon man that won't even get us 20' below ES.
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its already damaged
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Been further damage can't occur until it tops the ES.
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5 to 7 inches of rain coming tonight! not good might break tonight!!!
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Will that rainfall be coming from the North of the dam?
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5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media

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^Late News.

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The plume on the park cam is now yet further to the right. A big one just popped up at a tree line I haven't seen that far down yet.

She might unzip today. Before the rains.
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should have fixed it before it got this bad.... not good

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Please pray for this to end well. I don't know how much my prayer is worth but it's the only thing I can do to try to help.

So I'm truly praying.

Remember last year when Mexico was about to be hit with a cat 5 storm? It wasn't as devastating as it should have been. Same thing with Matthew going up the east coast, it should have been much worse.

Keep praying.
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:pray:
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yes. that Cat 5 Hurricane at the west coast of Guatemala,
all of a sudden like, it just died, dead, i mean dead dead.
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EM COM reporting there are logs jamming a couple of the MS gates.
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bump
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Hope logtards don't consume next 60 pages.
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Scanner 151.235 EM COM - Inspection on the left spillway, no changes on the crack gauge.
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is that from the web or your personal rig? We (scannerless) are deaf and almost blind today with the broadcastify link offline..
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5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media

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 Quoting: Toprance1


^Late News.


tounge
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hf
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Honestly, I think the hillside erosion might do her in before the rains come flooding in.

That is a good ways up and all she has to do is carve deep enough right where the damage is at and it can release the entire lake at once.
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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
anybody know about DH..? He has a new article up that explains the overall picture here...not just oroville dam...it's really bad and everyone should see it....if you don't know who I'm talking about then ask with coded language because anything from this site is banned

when you go to the page look for newest articles...it's the top one.
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5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media

[link to kron4.com]
 Quoting: Toprance1


Who knows, maybe it will turn out to be a blessing from God when they aren't around Oroville if the dam breaks.

hf
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700 pages of nonsense.
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It says a lot that you focus on that rather than the analysis, speculation based in science and engineering, images showing steady progress of damage, and offical data and documentation from other sources.

Hurt your brain does it? pphtt
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Nah. He is a tree fiddy. Gotta pay the rent.
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5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media

[link to kron4.com]
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Public interest at this scale trumps minor contractual terms. They need to get in touch with a lawyer.
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As I said last night, If the guy on youtube can zoom in from 2.4 miles away in his backyard, and there is a 5 mile no fly zone, Why can't news choppers with their amazing cameras stay 5 miles out and zoom in also? They did this with the wild fires last summer and got amazing close up shots. Anyone, Anyone, Bueller?
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clouds, and they've agreed not too.. my guess..
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Holy moly, it's not even going down the spillway anymore.

Mad props to that guy....the only one able to get a recent photo of the situation

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I thought it would look worse than that after a week.
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AC 812, you are wrong.

He said "YOUR 700 kinds of stupid." That was correct.

YOU'RE is a contraction of "YOU ARE"

Your correction doesn't make sense, because it's WRONG.
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EM COM reporting there are logs jamming a couple of the MS gates.
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bump
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Hope logtards don't consume next 60 pages.
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better then being a denial-tard.
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Honestly, I think the hillside erosion might do her in before the rains come flooding in.

That is a good ways up and all she has to do is carve deep enough right where the damage is at and it can release the entire lake at once.
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C'mon Adam, you're saying rain falling directly on the ES will destroy the ES??

I'd hate to have to use the retard moniker.
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700 pages of nonsense.
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Not to the Damtards. :-)
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Lmao. I a damn disscusstard. But now I am going to be a worktard. Gotta get my head out of this for the day.
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Not sure how to post a photo, but go check out Marcus Yam @yamphoto on twitter. Crazy photo of spillway.
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Wow! Here is the link to his page:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Did you guys see that Fire truck go into that sink hole?

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inflow and outflows are in the range predicted for now..

02/19/2017 08:00 852.37 2840266 54989 31117

maybe they'll have time to get to 850, then inspect the MS dry. We may even get a pic if we're lucky..
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From what I remember last night and looking at design drawings,

850' is the TOP of the MS gates.

The debris blockage CANNOT be inspected or removed unless water levels drop to about 820'.

This is impossible with no flow through the Hyat power plant and/or the bypass tunnel that the valve is disabled to.
It cannot be opened.

There is no path for water to go below the MS gate level
at about 820'.

As the water level drops below the top of the gates at 850' the flow would be further reduced because of less door area to use. Does this make sense?

Any lower lake level is going to be impossible.
Therefore there will be no "inspection" or removal of debris blocking the gates.
There is no path for water below the gates. They are both disabled.

I suspect they are fully open but debris blockage is limiting flow to 50% of what we saw days ago.
I believe MAXIMUM flow now is LIMITED to 60,000cfs.
(With higher lake level pressure would increase and flow would slightly increase from 55K even with the blockage.)
If/when further damage takes out the remaining MS ramp they will NOT be able to close the gates to prevent erosion all the way to the gates themselves.

Not good.
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5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media

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 Quoting: Toprance1


Who knows, maybe it will turn out to be a blessing from God when they aren't around Oroville if the dam breaks.

hf
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Yeah really, save your life and take a pic.
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Not sure how to post a photo, but go check out Marcus Yam @yamphoto on twitter. Crazy photo of spillway.
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wow thank you!! That REALLY shows what's going wrong. Is that water on the extreme left way up high? It looks like it's flowing <<<<<<<<
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It is eroding the buffer and moving toward the dam. This is a game changer!
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Not sure how to post a photo, but go check out Marcus Yam @yamphoto on twitter. Crazy photo of spillway.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Superb find AC. This looks to have been filmed very recently.
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Wow, it says filmed today.

So when scanner was saying 95% of flow to the left it is left side from the top. I'm going to have to retrain my brain.
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Poontards we slide to da left





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