California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

Honestly not sure. It doesn't seem with the condition of the MS, that it sunk, that the gates and anchor bolts at the gates, the under-cutting, the voids, all of that will make keeping the MS open much longer. It's either risk the ES or risk the MS, gates and all going. They've been seriously reinforcing the ES, and creating "water paths". We know they've been sneaking in a lot of pipes everywhere, so I basically think they are hoping with all their might not to have to use it, but their choices are few, and they will be forced to go with the "least riskiest" every day during run off.

I keep having this nagging feeling that there is something hidden underneath the dam.

Check out the names on this plaque.

If you follow conspiracy stuff at all, some of those names should jump out at you.


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Phoenix
Patton
Pike
Harvey
Conley
Bush

There is so much more to this story than just the failure. There is an entire period of history around the gold rush that the Liberals in CA covered up at the behest of the Fed Reserve bosses.

Is anyone else interested in looking up the possibility of a DUMB connecting to Beale under the dam?

This site had some interesting historical info.

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The idea of shutting down the MS for the season on May 5 is ridiculous.

The snowpack is currently huge, and the associated melt will be as well.

They can't get the water out of this reservoir quickly enough and long enough to initiate repairs.

According to accu weather forecast it's suppose to start getting into the 80's for Oroville in the coming days so assume it will be warmer in the mountains and lots of snow melt will be coming soon.

Yeah, just to the east of the dam is Forbestown, related to Steve Forbes possibly?

And another one jumps out at me as being strange. Camp 18. Where have we seen that number before?

IMO, there is an entire level of crap going down at this dam than just the failure. What if drain the swamp was more than just a figure of speech?

2011 inflow diagram:

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Dude Crunch, I am over in Lake County and have been following this since the beginning. I posted about the then brown, now green spot, somewhere around page 200 if I can find it...

Would you care to take a look at this article about the disaster during the construction of the dam? Just look at the names on the plaque.

This is a conspiracy site after all. It's not like I have security clearance to really know, but I keep getting this feeling that there is some serious buried history in the area.

If you follow the Feather River up from Oroville, you run into the town of Sloat. The Sloat family is big time Old Money.

It's just strange, we can only do so much watching the slow-motion disaster unfold. Why not take a trip down conspiracy lane in the meantime to stir up some history?

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Seems like they upped spillway output?

From 36K to 43K it looks like.

"Lara praised Governor Jerry Brown’s support for “Health 4 All Kids” (SB 4), a law that, beginning on July 1, will spend $279.5 million of general fund revenues per year to provide free Medi-Cal coverage to 185,000 mostly illegal alien/undocumented minors. Lara’s HCA goal is to extend government-backed healthcare to all Californians, regardless of citizenship."

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More than they awarded to "fix" the Dam. Typical JB crap.

Just noticed a mercury news story from an hour ago about 'mystery foam below the MS'

The article wouldn't load - can somebody please check this out ?

That's only enough money to open a file and run a couple of tests on each kid. Probably testing for active but silent TB and other silent killers. California has all the mosquitoes needed, for example, to pass along some serious brain infections.

There was a very good reason we had borders and Ellis Island. Anyone who appeared to be ill or under the weather on the long trip across the ocean was detained long enough to see if he carried an infectious illness. It kept the incoming infections down to a manageable level.

Now some blithering idiots thought that they could dispense with any border controls because some were already crossing... and now they face untold losses from imported illnesses. You can't fix stupid. The rank idiocy of the elected officials, in California and elsewhere, and their total abandon of public health practices and precautions since AIDS hit is suicidal, or perhaps the biggest Darwin award winner ever.

Sorry for the thread drift.

weather in the 80's will be interesting.

Last Edited by Crazy Harriet on 04/27/2017 11:47 AM

Video of blasting and debris removal at gates.



At 2:45 where is this walk bridge?

There is running water beneath it.....

What is the source of this water?

Maybe just natural ground water from rains?

Interesting - if the dam did fail, it would catastrophically flood Sacramento, wouldn't it? It would be more than a symbolic destruction of the capital of California politics.

DWR reporting that spillway is at 35K and Hyatt PP releasing 8K.


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Why are there so many logs smack up against the gates? Dont they have a boom to trap them further out?

It looks like the Oregon Gulch bridge on the Brad Freeman trail. Just a short distance downstream from the main spillway. A seasonal creek runs under it.

I don't understand what they are doing this for. What I do see here is a weakening of the system as a whole. My overall view of this desperate undertaking is that they are in panic mode, I hope for the best for the peoples of Orroville.
GM

foam is always a sign of bad things happening.

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Anybody else notice that any CA news updates on this crisis has stopped readers views ?

I recall a lot if ascerbic statements from readers in early stories - like even the MSM is panicked and fearful of any kind of open duscussion

Bunch of commie criminals

Oroville is the central part of the CA water system that brings water to millions and irrigates much farmland. They desperately need it or the status quo will end, and that would be apocalyptic for LA and a huge amount of national food production.

They were first class idiots to ignore proper maintenance.

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Could you make a graph like this that just shows the inflow rate?

Love how clearly it is depicted.

I really do like this graph. Shows all the way back to 1977 & you can see clearly height of run-off season. As for this Feb "SPIKE" 2017... question is, what really caused spike? Lots of "unexpected rain"? A shift? I don't know. Anyways you can zoom in and out to find colors per year. But I think a really good gauge to see what we're in for.

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I suspect the driver behind early closure of the MS is the enormous gate structure. The settlement of the chute slab where it abuts the gate structure has frightening potential. That is, for material to be displaced underneath the chute slab at this location, it may indicate seepage from underneath the gate structure.

They cannot allow the gate structure to be undermined to the point where they risk either catastrophic failure of post shutdown repairs are so extensive that it cannot be repaired in a reasonable time frame. Demolishing and replacing the gate structure would take a year at least, not an option. As well, grouting beneath the gate structure is a whole order of magnitude more difficult than simply grouting voids under the chute slab.

Sounds like they are going to roll the dice and use the ES with the reuse of the MS as a back-up. This plan is now their least worst option. Doubt the ES will last two days sat 50k cfs.

Mother Nature has this dam in a vice and is tightening the screws...