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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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fine. "shot crete" "shock creek" "shock crete", doesn't matter.
the fucking point is that this concrete has not had enough
time to cure for the stressful job it is being put to right now.
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I would tend to agree. I know they stated they installed rock bolts in several locations in the upper part of the spillway, but those big slabs have to be experiencing vibration from the water flow.

I'd guess the integrity of the spray patch underneath the end is already compromised.
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fine. i'm just trying to impress on people what the
real nature of the risks are right now, headed into
the incoming rain and snow-melt.

this isn't a lonely hearts club.
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If the extended rain forecast through 4/3 that Geo posted is accurate, things will get very interesting, and quite possibly go critical again.

I haven't unpacked our go bags, for sure.
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I've been following this thread since the beginning
and appreciate all the up-dates and comments...

My "take" at this point (as we seem to be going into
yet another round of "weather disturbances" for the
West Coast PLUS the snow-melt) is that the Oroville is
an incredibly slow-moving "RUN-AWAY-TRAIN." It's almost painful to watch.


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FairUSE

Here is a clip from the Bruce Willis movie "Unbreakable."
In the clip, he is sitting on a train on a routine
trip...when it begins to accelerate. At first he doesn't
really seem to even notice it (that would be before
the water in the dam actually "topped" the dam and the
emergency spillway was used....) Then, as he realizes
that the train is going way way too fast, you can see
his knuckles go white as he is grabbing onto the chair
grips--watching others beginning to get very nervous.
(That's where IMHO we are as of 3-18-2017.)

The next...is in the emergency ward where he is the
only survivor...and we all know at what point in the
Oroville disaster THAT will be....next week? Next month?

This puppy is going to fail. It's just a matter of when
...and the "patches" are a non-issue in all of it...the real
issue is the way the EVACUATIONS will be handled. That's
where I think they should be putting their focus.

Hope I'm wrong.
Cheers
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I would tend to agree. I know they stated they installed rock bolts in several locations in the upper part of the spillway, but those big slabs have to be experiencing vibration from the water flow.

I'd guess the integrity of the spray patch underneath the end is already compromised.
 Quoting: Crunch62


fine. i'm just trying to impress on people what the
real nature of the risks are right now, headed into
the incoming rain and snow-melt.

this isn't a lonely hearts club.
 Quoting: freddie 0


If the extended rain forecast through 4/3 that Geo posted is accurate, things will get very interesting, and quite possibly go critical again.

I haven't unpacked our go bags, for sure.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I've been following this thread since the beginning
and appreciate all the up-dates and comments...

My "take" at this point (as we seem to be going into
yet another round of "weather disturbances" for the
West Coast) is that the Oroville is an incredibly
slow-moving "RUN-AWAY-TRAIN." It's almost painful.


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
:FairUSE:

Here is a clip from the Bruce Willis movie "Unbreakable."
In the clip, he is sitting on a train on a routine
trip...when it begins to accelerate. At first he doesn't
really seem to even notice it (that would be before
the water in the dam actually "topped" the dam and the
emergency spillway was used....) Then, as he realizes
that the train is going way way too fast, you can see
his knuckles go white as he is grabbing onto the chair
grips--watching others beginning to get very nervous.
(That's where IMHO we are as of 3-18-2017.)

The next...is in the emergency ward where he is the
only survivor...and we all know at what point in the
Oroville disaster THAT will be....next week? Next month?

This puppy is going to fail. It's just a matter of when
...and the "patches" are a non-issue in all of it...the real
issue is the way the EVACUATIONS will be handled. That's
where I think they should be putting their focus.

Hope I'm wrong.
Cheers
O'sCookie
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In this video the gentleman talks about the mysterious splashing at the surface of the MS @ 1:14. These splashes would appear to come from the bolts that Juan mentioned.

Bolts, good.
Turbulence caused by bolt heads, bad.
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Wow. They didn't grout the bolt holes?

Speechless.


They created perforation lines for the spillway to snap off (like a Kit-Kat bar).

That definitely does not look good.
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I completely agree. Water don't care.
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OK so you just confirmed that your "Big news" is a bogus statement.
Sorry Freddie, One of the lessons I've learned going through the degrees of Freemasonry is "confirm all things". Take nothing at face value.

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i made it clear that this was my interpretation of what i
way and what my tentative conclusion is.

you can stop being an asshole now.
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"The big news right now is that all the patchwork on the MS has been breached and been defeated"

Please explain how this comes across as an "interpretation".
Please, Mr. Asshole.
Explain...
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well, if you don't like my analysis and commentary go fuck yourself.

this is GLP you little fuckwit.
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Fuckwit. Right. My point is made. You can not disprove my statement thus you resort to vulgarities. Typical Clintonesque snowflake response. True this is GLP but this is not a flat earth thread. This thread is one of REALITY not a psychoses - induced delusional falacy. Either provide facts to confirm your statement or go fly a kite in a busy intersection. I'm not going to waste any more of my time responding to your childish self - indulged flaming. Be a man or be gone.
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As others concentrate their energies on invective toward others, I would like to point out the lack of discharge on the side-chutes of the MS, which was a huge issue before (with lots of hubbub on this thread) and now there is virtually no flow out of those side drains.

Thoughts anyone?
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i made it clear that this was my interpretation of what i
way and what my tentative conclusion is.

you can stop being an asshole now.
 Quoting: freddie 0


"The big news right now is that all the patchwork on the MS has been breached and been defeated"

Please explain how this comes across as an "interpretation".
Please, Mr. Asshole.
Explain...
 Quoting: Always listen to Buck!


well, if you don't like my analysis and commentary go fuck yourself.

this is GLP you little fuckwit.
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Fuckwit. Right. My point is made. You can not disprove my statement thus you resort to vulgarities. Typical Clintonesque snowflake response. True this is GLP but this is not a flat earth thread. This thread is one of REALITY not a psychoses - induced delusional falacy. Either provide facts to confirm your statement or go fly a kite in a busy intersection. I'm not going to waste any more of my time responding to your childish self - indulged flaming. Be a man or be gone.
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quit stalking me you little piece of shit.
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Yes it will be.

Just as long as the damaged spillway can be opened to 100K cfs again.
 Quoting: 54321...!


They said they plan to keep it at 60,000.
I think it's fouled w/ debris.
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Difficult to exhale if one can't inhale
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Hey, speaking of inhaling, did you know the greenish rock under the MS and on the ES is known as Serpentinite?

Why would that matter you ask? Because it's natural ASBESTOS!!!

[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

[link to baynature.org (secure)]

[link to ww2.kqed.org (secure)]


Yup, first on this thread, the hill under the ES and MS is full of nasty devil asbestos rock!


Super duper mesothelioma dam doom!!!


5ahidingbanana21dpanicsfanexplosionabomb
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On Feb 20, and 120 pages ago on this thread, I broke the story about the naturally-occurring asbestos in the underlying rock.

LA Times had a story about it 2 days ago.

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"The big news right now is that all the patchwork on the MS has been breached and been defeated"

Please explain how this comes across as an "interpretation".
Please, Mr. Asshole.
Explain...
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well, if you don't like my analysis and commentary go fuck yourself.

this is GLP you little fuckwit.
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Fuckwit. Right. My point is made. You can not disprove my statement thus you resort to vulgarities. Typical Clintonesque snowflake response. True this is GLP but this is not a flat earth thread. This thread is one of REALITY not a psychoses - induced delusional falacy. Either provide facts to confirm your statement or go fly a kite in a busy intersection. I'm not going to waste any more of my time responding to your childish self - indulged flaming. Be a man or be gone.
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quit stalking me you little piece of shit.
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Typical liberal snowflake claiming personal defense as stalking.

Grow a pair & be a real man. Better yet... stop trying to derail the thread with toys frivolous & irrelevant banter. You got caught in your bovine scatology, got called out... enough of your garbage. No one wants to read it. Get a job & get a lige. I have one... gotta get to bed for work tomorrow. And lodge duties afterwards.

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They said they plan to keep it at 60,000.
I think it's fouled w/ debris.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74137497


Difficult to exhale if one can't inhale
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Hey, speaking of inhaling, did you know the greenish rock under the MS and on the ES is known as Serpentinite?

Why would that matter you ask? Because it's natural ASBESTOS!!!

[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

[link to baynature.org (secure)]

[link to ww2.kqed.org (secure)]


Yup, first on this thread, the hill under the ES and MS is full of nasty devil asbestos rock!


Super duper mesothelioma dam doom!!!


5ahidingbanana21dpanicsfanexplosionabomb
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On Feb 20, and 120 pages ago on this thread, I broke the story about the naturally-occurring asbestos in the underlying rock.

LA Times had a story about it 2 days ago.

Welcome to the party bitches.
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yup. in the 1950s they found a mountain of Asbestos in Canada.
so they had to find a market for it, and started
putting it in everything except our breakfast cereal.
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Difficult to exhale if one can't inhale
 Quoting: Jusayin 74075580



Hey, speaking of inhaling, did you know the greenish rock under the MS and on the ES is known as Serpentinite?

Why would that matter you ask? Because it's natural ASBESTOS!!!

[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

[link to baynature.org (secure)]

[link to ww2.kqed.org (secure)]


Yup, first on this thread, the hill under the ES and MS is full of nasty devil asbestos rock!


Super duper mesothelioma dam doom!!!


5ahidingbanana21dpanicsfanexplosionabomb
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On Feb 20, and 120 pages ago on this thread, I broke the story about the naturally-occurring asbestos in the underlying rock.

LA Times had a story about it 2 days ago.

Welcome to the party bitches.
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yup. in the 1950s they found a mountain of Asbestos in Canada.
so they had to find a market for it, and started
putting it in everything except our breakfast cereal.
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Or did they...???

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Did they build a new emergency Chanel?
Has anyone commented on the new "road" that is way too straight for a road, that goes kinda from the right edge of the parking lot to the river? Right seen from the dam as they taught us on metabunk.
Seen clearly at around 4 minutes in the last flyover video by Juan.
Not seen in his first flyover video february.
Here the last flyover


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Did they build a new emergency Chanel?
Has anyone commented on the new "road" that is way too straight for a road, that goes kinda from the right edge of the parking lot to the river? Right seen from the dam as they taught us on metabunk.
Seen clearly at around 4 minutes in the last flyover video by Juan.
Not seen in his first flyover video february.
Here the last flyover

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I sure hope so. That would be the single most sensible and important thing they've done since this whole situation began.
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2AM:

Level: 857.44
Outflows: 47,327
Inflows: 15,596
River rel.: 47,847


Lots of 20,000+ cfs inflows overnight. That ain't good... Starts raining tomorrow in earnest...and continues for a long time.
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Date/Time_______RESELE__STORAGE__OUTFLOW__INFLOW__R​IVREL

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03/18/201717:00__858.98__2930627__47004___9929__481​94
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3AM:

Level: 857.32
Outflows: 47,390
Inflows: 19,779
River rel.: 48,193
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Hey I just read a San Antonio NEW (pablum, same old rehashed and regurgited) so called update on the 'new' MS flow thingy,

The article claimed to quote Bill Croyle (is that someone who bilks royally?) as saying something like if the MS thingy doesn't succeed it's not too big a deal because they have 'other corrective measures' they can employ.

At first I wondered if they plan to take my weird suggestion of bringing in helicopters to scoop the water out of the lake.
But then it hit me as sounding a bit ominous. Sort of like 'we can if need be 'correct' our failed efforts by pulling the whole she bang' (so no one can complain or point out our failure.... And cuz no one'll be around afterwards to blame us. Hahshahhahaha !!'

Anyone else see that cryptic statement and have a clue what Bilk Roil is talking about here (or there)?

I feel like he's both bilking me of the truth I want and roiling my nerves at the same time via incessant subterfuge
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Referring to just letting the ES be used? They certainly have put a lot of money into shoring it up and, when it ran before, it formed it's own channel that is now down to bedrock.
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Don't know if it's been mentioned, but yesterday afternoon, I saw a cement truck and the cement book being used on the ES around the area close to the parking lot.
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Hey I just read a San Antonio NEW (pablum, same old rehashed and regurgited) so called update on the 'new' MS flow thingy,

The article claimed to quote Bill Croyle (is that someone who bilks royally?) as saying something like if the MS thingy doesn't succeed it's not too big a deal because they have 'other corrective measures' they can employ.

At first I wondered if they plan to take my weird suggestion of bringing in helicopters to scoop the water out of the lake.
But then it hit me as sounding a bit ominous. Sort of like 'we can if need be 'correct' our failed efforts by pulling the whole she bang' (so no one can complain or point out our failure.... And cuz no one'll be around afterwards to blame us. Hahshahhahaha !!'

Anyone else see that cryptic statement and have a clue what Bilk Roil is talking about here (or there)?

I feel like he's both bilking me of the truth I want and roiling my nerves at the same time via incessant subterfuge
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Referring to just letting the ES be used? They certainly have put a lot of money into shoring it up and, when it ran before, it formed it's own channel that is now down to bedrock.
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Don't know if it's been mentioned, but yesterday afternoon, I saw a cement truck and the cement book being used on the ES around the area close to the parking lot.
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"Boom"--not "book"
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This saga is reminding me of the story of the zoo monkey who would regularly escape his cage and have free reign of the zoo, breaking rules as he saw fit. His favorite trick was to snatch food from the other animals, except that is, the tiger. He was leary of going into the tiger enclosure which btw, was much nicer than his enclosure and received a lot more attention from the visitors.

Truth be told, the monkey was jealous of the tiger and his envy eventually consumed him. One day, throwing caution to the wind the monkey leapt where angels fear to tread and into the tiger enclosure the monkey ventured.

While a new experience for the monkey, the tiger had had other monkeys try the same thing. In fact, in the past the tiger had noticed the monkey spying on him and while appearing to ignore the monkey, the tiger was biding his time.

Once inside the enclosure the monkey was greeted by the tiger by a hard, malovent stare. This was the tiger's territory and no monkeys were tolerated. The tiger's name in his native land was "He who greets with fire". In a flash the tiger was upon the monkey and the only thing the monkey could do was scramble on the tiger's back. Digging his paws in, the monkey held on with grim death.

The tiger enjoyed this part, it was cat and mouse. It always ended with the tiget brushing his back against an overhead branch and knocking the monkey out.

The monkey, named Freemason, never saw the branch coming...
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They have cement that will HARDEN under water, in case you do not know. We do not really know just what type they have been using in their repair work.
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9AM:

Level: 856.31
Outflows: 46,806
Inflows: 17,020
River rel.: 48,065

They keep reducing the outflow...

Hmmm....
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Perforation lines are speed bumps to slow down the water before it rolls off and hits the rocks.
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Lol. Do you know what that much water does to a none-smooth service -- based on your comment you have no clue. Go take a 300 level hydrodynamics course. Or even a basic one on OCW (this one is free).
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Perforation lines are speed bumps to slow down the water before it rolls off and hits the rocks.
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Lol. Do you know what that much water does to a none-smooth service -- based on your comment you have no clue. Go take a 300 level hydrodynamics course. Or even a basic one on OCW (this one is free).
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even with the most recent MS patching job, DWR still
doesn't seem to understand the Physics of Cavitation.
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Perforation lines are speed bumps to slow down the water before it rolls off and hits the rocks.
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Lol. Do you know what that much water does to a none-smooth service -- based on your comment you have no clue. Go take a 300 level hydrodynamics course. Or even a basic one on OCW (this one is free).
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even with the most recent MS patching job, DWR still
doesn't seem to understand the Physics of Cavitation.
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I am quite convinced there is no true civil engineer on this job. And even if there is one, they don't have a single ffs background in water. I bet money they don't even have sonogram experience or they are being paid to keep their mouth shut. Because my rumph would have been yelling from the roof tops.
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10AM:

Level: 856.20
Outflows: 46,778
Inflows: 23,498
River rel.: 48,067

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11AM:

Level: 856.06
Outflows: 46,842
Inflows: 25,861
River rel.: 48,009

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A few new pages are added every day. You can see from yesterday's photos that they are still doing a lot of work on ES. It was near dark when the cement truck was up by the weir doing whatever they were. I was hoping to see a photo of that.

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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
This saga is reminding me of the story of the zoo monkey who would regularly escape his cage and have free reign of the zoo, breaking rules as he saw fit. His favorite trick was to snatch food from the other animals, except that is, the tiger. He was leary of going into the tiger enclosure which btw, was much nicer than his enclosure and received a lot more attention from the visitors.

Truth be told, the monkey was jealous of the tiger and his envy eventually consumed him. One day, throwing caution to the wind the monkey leapt where angels fear to tread and into the tiger enclosure the monkey ventured.

While a new experience for the monkey, the tiger had had other monkeys try the same thing. In fact, in the past the tiger had noticed the monkey spying on him and while appearing to ignore the monkey, the tiger was biding his time.

Once inside the enclosure the monkey was greeted by the tiger by a hard, malovent stare. This was the tiger's territory and no monkeys were tolerated. The tiger's name in his native land was "He who greets with fire". In a flash the tiger was upon the monkey and the only thing the monkey could do was scramble on the tiger's back. Digging his paws in, the monkey held on with grim death.

The tiger enjoyed this part, it was cat and mouse. It always ended with the tiget brushing his back against an overhead branch and knocking the monkey out.

The monkey, named Freemason, never saw the branch coming...
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Freemason -- :african:
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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
BillyBob her n maybe they could cement in a million giant prehistoric tortus shells fix 'er up good
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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
Perforation lines are speed bumps to slow down the water before it rolls off and hits the rocks.
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Lol. Do you know what that much water does to a none-smooth service -- based on your comment you have no clue. Go take a 300 level hydrodynamics course. Or even a basic one on OCW (this one is free).
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even with the most recent MS patching job, DWR still
doesn't seem to understand the Physics of Cavitation.
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They bolted the top of the spillway to rock. I figured those bumps were the tops of bolts. I never saw them in old footage so I figured they are new. Right? What else could it be but new bolts?





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