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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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I got banned and they wont let me speak the truth here.

learn the meaning behind crop circles. This is just one of the many phenomena trying to wake us up to what is really going on

awakeningforums.com/thread/316/crop-circles-meaning
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I got banned and they wont let me speak the truth here.

learn the meaning behind crop circles. This is just one of the many phenomena trying to wake us up to what is really going on

awakeningforums.com/thread/316/crop-circles-meaning
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I'll go have a look, it's got to be better than where this thread has ended up. Bunch of no-it-all's without a standard high school education. LOL
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Nevermind, that was WORSE than this thread...

NOTHING is going to happen with this dam. Except they will hold on, until summer and they can begin to fully repair it.
This is the end of this threads story.
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I got banned and they wont let me speak the truth here.

learn the meaning behind crop circles. This is just one of the many phenomena trying to wake us up to what is really going on

awakeningforums.com/thread/316/crop-circles-meaning
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I'll go have a look, it's got to be better than where this thread has ended up. Bunch of no-it-all's without a standard high school education. LOL
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well, help us out with the crop circle too then.
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Nevermind, that was WORSE than this thread...

NOTHING is going to happen with this dam. Except they will hold on, until summer and they can begin to fully repair it.
This is the end of this threads story.
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I hope you are correct. The only real variable is the weather. We are already about 10" above average precipitation for the season (measured at the dam) with more in the forecast. Nearly double the average snowpack in the watershed feeding the reservoir.

If the precipitation over the next two weeks doesn't cause a catastrophe, we may be able to ride it out until repairs can be affected over the summer.
What the Hell?...
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Crop Circles !

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Nevermind, that was WORSE than this thread...

NOTHING is going to happen with this dam. Except they will hold on, until summer and they can begin to fully repair it.
This is the end of this threads story.
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I hope you are correct. The only real variable is the weather. We are already about 10" above average precipitation for the season (measured at the dam) with more in the forecast. Nearly double the average snowpack in the watershed feeding the reservoir.

If the precipitation over the next two weeks doesn't cause a catastrophe, we may be able to ride it out until repairs can be affected over the summer.
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Even when the rain snow stops better hope tenperatures don't heat up fast and stay hot for a long period of time causing a rapid snow melt. If the dam makes it through the next couple weeks of rain and it dries out and temperatures don't heat up too fast and the snow melts slowly then the dam might make it. If the snow melts fast then the dam is likely doomed. Of course whether the dam breaks or not likely depends on if the government more important the illuminati wants it ti break. If they really want the dam to break youxcan bet they'll do everything in their power to make sure it does even including blowing up tge dam themselves like they did to the levees in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina if it looks like the rain and snowmelt might not be enough to break it. If anybody lives near the dam if you gear explosions make sure to record it so we can catch them and expose them deliberately trying to break the dam If you do hear explosions make sure to get away and out of anywhere the dam could flood immediately.
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Picture any one of the 11(?) dams upstream failing. We can assume they were all maintained to California standards, and the spectacular failure of every downstream dam thereafter including Oroville would be a likely possibility.

How would Oroville handle an inrush of water like that?
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Information. Nothing more. Nothing less.

You built this dam? Or have you worked on designs of a smaller scale with a more modern flow that comes directly from the dam itself?
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Much smaller scale, but I understand the progression
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This fail will be a bit different -- especially if it is the MS or ES that starts the failure. The seep has been constant by the MS and the ES (think about puddling). While yes we are talking huge pressure -- the dam is more structural sound then the area at the spillways.

Yes it could slide once the water is gone. but that depends on how much snow melt and rain keep coming into the fails area
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Picture a high pressure washer on a mound of dirt starting at the edge. The dam won't collapse, it will be cut away.
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Larry Silverstein: CUT IT!
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One inch of rain over the watershed lifts the lake 12 feet.

12 inches of snow equals an inch of rain, give or take.

120 inches of snow is 10 of rain brings the lake up 120 feet.

In some places the snow is over 500 inches. That would bring the lake up 500 feet. This is a rough estimate as surface area changes the deeper it gets.

At 50,000 CFS it takes a day to lower the lake 4 feet.

The math looks bad. Pray for a very slow snowmelt.
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Picture any one of the 11(?) dams upstream failing. We can assume they were all maintained to California standards, and the spectacular failure of every downstream dam thereafter including Oroville would be a likely possibility.

How would Oroville handle an inrush of water like that?
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yes, that's another factor that could be a big part of
the problem too.
because i don't think they have had a chance to release
their water at all.
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wtf Sneaky people. Dam camera is live and -- there is work going on at the weir area where the cement truck was yesterday. You can see the work lights to the far right in the Overview angle and see it when the camera changes to Aux Spillway. People are waiting for dark. Waiting for us to get tired of click & pausing to see what's what and distracting us here to keep us from watching the camera. WHAT can be the problem over in that area that they need to work in the dark so we don't see?
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wtf Sneaky people. Dam camera is live and -- there is work going on at the weir area where the cement truck was yesterday. You can see the work lights to the far right in the Overview angle and see it when the camera changes to Aux Spillway. People are waiting for dark. Waiting for us to get tired of click & pausing to see what's what and distracting us here to keep us from watching the camera. WHAT can be the problem over in that area that they need to work in the dark so we don't see?
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I think they are busy creting the ES and parking lot area because they know it is going to come into use within the next couple of weeks.

There are definitely lights in that area now that were not there last night or this morning.
What the Hell?...
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wtf Sneaky people. Dam camera is live and -- there is work going on at the weir area where the cement truck was yesterday. You can see the work lights to the far right in the Overview angle and see it when the camera changes to Aux Spillway. People are waiting for dark. Waiting for us to get tired of click & pausing to see what's what and distracting us here to keep us from watching the camera. WHAT can be the problem over in that area that they need to work in the dark so we don't see?
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5a Why is it necessary to hide this work at night and what is so important about this location?
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wtf Sneaky people. Dam camera is live and -- there is work going on at the weir area where the cement truck was yesterday. You can see the work lights to the far right in the Overview angle and see it when the camera changes to Aux Spillway. People are waiting for dark. Waiting for us to get tired of click & pausing to see what's what and distracting us here to keep us from watching the camera. WHAT can be the problem over in that area that they need to work in the dark so we don't see?
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5a Why is it necessary to hide this work at night and what is so important about this location?
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You can see the arm of either an excavator or backhoe scooping or placing stuff.
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wtf Sneaky people. Dam camera is live and -- there is work going on at the weir area where the cement truck was yesterday. You can see the work lights to the far right in the Overview angle and see it when the camera changes to Aux Spillway. People are waiting for dark. Waiting for us to get tired of click & pausing to see what's what and distracting us here to keep us from watching the camera. WHAT can be the problem over in that area that they need to work in the dark so we don't see?
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I think they are busy creting the ES and parking lot area because they know it is going to come into use within the next couple of weeks.

There are definitely lights in that area now that were not there last night or this morning.
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They are not using the cement pumper. You can see the arm swing back and forth moving/placing something. Could they be putting big boulders there like they lined the river shore with across from the MS? I don't know why they couldn't do this in daylight other than to let people know that the MS is not going to be enough and don't want to panic people. Better to be honest!
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One inch of rain over the watershed lifts the lake 12 feet.

12 inches of snow equals an inch of rain, give or take.

120 inches of snow is 10 of rain brings the lake up 120 feet.

In some places the snow is over 500 inches. That would bring the lake up 500 feet. This is a rough estimate as surface area changes the deeper it gets.

At 50,000 CFS it takes a day to lower the lake 4 feet.

The math looks bad. Pray for a very slow snowmelt.
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No, I will not pray!

California deserves what's coming!
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This fail will be a bit different -- especially if it is the MS or ES that starts the failure. The seep has been constant by the MS and the ES (think about puddling). While yes we are talking huge pressure -- the dam is more structural sound then the area at the spillways.

Yes it could slide once the water is gone. but that depends on how much snow melt and rain keep coming into the fails area
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Picture a high pressure washer on a mound of dirt starting at the edge. The dam won't collapse, it will be cut away.
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Yes. I have an engineering background. The ES area will cut away first which should keep the dam from being at risk.

Like I said -- information. They are not talking about the ground under the ES for a reason.
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You are not an engineer...sorry. What stands in the way of the spillway cutting to the dam...they join each other. Give me specifics please.
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I stated information. That's all I am saying. If you can find it own your own swell. If you don't -- Thank you for understanding.

If the fail report ever makes the hack -- you will understand the why.

You don't have to believe it. And I still pray for an intervention.
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Nevermind, that was WORSE than this thread...

NOTHING is going to happen with this dam. Except they will hold on, until summer and they can begin to fully repair it.
This is the end of this threads story.
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If you buy that, I have some great ocean front propert, in Arizona, I would love to sell to ya.

If the thread causes you pain -- why visit? Masochist. You guys trip me out :)
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Page 911 is coming up soon.
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Page 911 is coming up soon.
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Today 14 years back the USA invadead iraq with shock and awe

Many people are said to have died who were non military

Seemed like a ritualistic blood orgy

Could something big happen today on the spring equinox?

Someone told me long ago that in ancient Chinese numerology four means death - and 14 signifies certain death.

Today marks 14 solar cycles since that big horrible satanic invasion - which followed the irrational 911.

Anything is possible that before it happens or is perpetrated seems highly improbable or even impossible.
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Since we saw no timeline that ended well for the Oroville dam and the people downstream we started an experiment this morning.
We are making a hole in the bottom of that lake and connecting it to an aquifer, draining the lake.
If you think a thread is important enough for others to read, go to page one and click on the green pin!!!
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Since we saw no timeline that ended well for the Oroville dam and the people downstream we started an experiment this morning.
We are making a hole in the bottom of that lake and connecting it to an aquifer, draining the lake.
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Oops. The aquifer water came up into the lake. Didn't see that comin'.
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3AM:

Level: 853.43
Outflows: 46,691
Inflows: 25,508
River rel.: 47,806

10.5' drained off now since re-opening of the MS...

Tomorrow, the real test begins...
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2.5" of rain at Junction House over the next 36 hours, according to NWS.
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5.75" OF RAIN AT JUNCTION HOUSE BETWEEN NOW AND SATURDAY MORNING, according to NWS.
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3AM:

Level: 853.43
Outflows: 46,691
Inflows: 25,508
River rel.: 47,806

10.5' drained off now since re-opening of the MS...

Tomorrow, the real test begins...
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Yes. Just checked the 10 day weather report. It doesn't seem like the rain will be that heavy. Those repairs don't seem that substantial in the grand scheme. I'm wondering about the remote viewer who supposedly sees a dam collapse. If you search on "remote viewer predicts water event March 2017", you'll find it.

BTW, he also supposedly viewed the ISS being in two parts. Wonder what that's supposed to portend.

The remote viewers never seem to come clean in the face of abject failure.

When it comes to Oroville, though, it seems like standard science and a healthy sense of political skepticism are enough to warrant concern.





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