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Thisismyusername (OP) User ID: 62181644 United States 02/11/2017 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for posting this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74001963 I've read this before. Good information which really confirms to me at least is that we need a while new branch of philosophical discussion. It's deep. "He who strikes terror in others is himself continually in fear." - Claudius Claudianus. Aka. Tatanka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73545896 Denmark 02/11/2017 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Nevertheless, assuming that the universe is finite and therefore the resources of potential simulators are finite, then a volume containing a simulation will be finite and a lattice spacing must be non-zero, and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators." Quoting: Thisismyusername I've recently read a pretty interesting .pdf I just wanted to share titled "Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation": <this link will download a .pdf file> [link to arxiv.org] It's some pretty deep stuff.. Enjoy! Try this or this - [link to steemit.com (secure)] steemit.com/introduceyourself/@r3v3s/all-is-connected-all-is-energy-awareness-is-not-energy-brexit-market-panic-7y7m7w7d-after-dow-lost-777-points-is-not-random [link to r3v3s.wordpress.com (secure)] |
The Comedian :D User ID: 74003154 United States 02/11/2017 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fun stuff OP, thanks! Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 73221749 Canada 02/11/2017 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe is infinite. When they tested the energy within a small cubic portion of the vacuum they discovered infinite energy. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30929224 United States 02/11/2017 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HOW DOES THE SELF... COME FROM 'THE SELF'??? WHERE DOES 'THE I' COME FROM??? HOW CAN 'THE SELF' COME FROM 'THE SELF'??? HOW CAN 'THE I' COME FROM 'THE I'??? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT GREAT MATHEMATICIANS... HOW DO THEY MATHEMATICALLY DO THIS??? THEY STATE THE PRIMITIVES OF ATOMS AND PROTEINS AS SYMBOLS... TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THESE FUNCTIONS WITH MEANINGLESS SYMBOLS... BUT THIS WILL FAIL!!! WHY ??? BECAUSE THEY JUST TOLD US... HOW THEY INTEND TO GET MEANING OUT OF THESE THINGS... IS... TO USE THE MEANINGLESS SYMBOLS OF MATH BY ASSIGNING MEANING TO A SYMBOL AND THEN DEDUCING OR REDUCING THAT MEANING TO A CONCLUSION... DOES THIS WORK??? THIS WILL NEVER WORK!!! IF... ONE COULD START FROM 'THE CONCLUSIONS'... THAT IS 'THE TRUTH'... AND USE 'THE TRUTH' TO REDUCE EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE UNIVERSE BY THAT TERM... THEN THE RESULT WILL CONCLUDE IN THIS WAY... CALLED 'THE WAY' !!! THIS RESULT IS ABSOLUTE, CONSISTENT AND ACCURATE... EVERYTIME... FOREVER!!! MATHE'MATICIANS' DON'T DO THIS ... WHY??? THE 'MAGICIANS'... START THE PROCESS FROM THE RESULT OF HOW THINGS ARE AND TRY TO GET TO 'THE TRUTH'... WHERE WE ARE NOW... IS... INACCURATE, IMPERFECT AND INCONSISTENT!!! CAN THEY GET TO 'THE TRUTH'... BY DEDUCTION OF IMPERFECTION??? NO!!! IT WILL END IN FAILURE EVERY TIME... FOREVER!!! THIS IS WHY 'THE SELF' FAILS... AND WHY 'THE I' FAILS EVERYTIME... FOREVER!!! |
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BomDeeBomDeeBom User ID: 71740445 United States 02/11/2017 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are resources being added to our universe this very second; cubits of information are being pulled in/added from another universe. Man and/or whatever process by which he was created has predetermined our resources infinite. The beginning and the end. Forever and ever. In a universe far far away, we have already discovered the simulators. "therefore the above assumption is robust "we assume" Don't get me wrong, the math is astounding. Some of the variables are beyond my knowledge, not understanding, but are like pi in definitude. 5*s looking forward to reading other replies! Last Edited by UnipartySchmuck on 02/11/2017 11:55 AM There's a 95% chance you are a candy ass uniparty tory. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42171155 United States 02/11/2017 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is basically the same reasoning to prove that God is not omniscient. An omniscient being would require infinite processing and storage capacity. If He exists outside of a finite universe, He could have full knowledge of that universe but not of the space He lives in. |
Thisismyusername (OP) User ID: 62181644 United States 02/11/2017 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74004009 I don't see how this follows from the previous. Any ideas? The way I take it is, if it is a simulation, it's designed to figure out how the simulators were ultimately simulated. .. "He who strikes terror in others is himself continually in fear." - Claudius Claudianus. Aka. Tatanka |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55008861 South Africa 02/11/2017 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is basically the same reasoning to prove that God is not omniscient. An omniscient being would require infinite processing and storage capacity. If He exists outside of a finite universe, He could have full knowledge of that universe but not of the space He lives in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42171155 Interesting... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68674811 United States 02/11/2017 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74004009 I don't see how this follows from the previous. Any ideas? The way I take it is, if it is a simulation, it's designed to figure out how the simulators were ultimately simulated. .. simulation theory is ridiculous prime example of the arrogance of man to assume that the entire universe and everything in it is just a simulation for humans |
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Thisismyusername (OP) User ID: 62181644 United States 02/11/2017 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74004009 I don't see how this follows from the previous. Any ideas? The way I take it is, if it is a simulation, it's designed to figure out how the simulators were ultimately simulated. .. simulation theory is ridiculous prime example of the arrogance of man to assume that the entire universe and everything in it is just a simulation for humans In a way you're right, and it probably would not be so popular if we were not in a computer age. But, I still think it's interesting to think about Last Edited by Thisismyusername on 02/11/2017 01:47 PM "He who strikes terror in others is himself continually in fear." - Claudius Claudianus. Aka. Tatanka |
Robomont physics class User ID: 27743297 United States 02/11/2017 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe is not infinite its finite.theyve found the edge. Thus they can do the equations to measure the quantity. Theres not infinite energy.its finite too. Our universe recycles via neutron stars. But the whole mechanism is in a balance. With the two outer rules being neutron destruction and neutron star creation. Anything below neutron will by nature go back up to neutron level.via reformation with other available quantum particles. Nature locks us into the equation or the equation locks us into a law of nature. The gap between the two rules is our existence.the fudge factor. Green light seems to be the center point. with a 10^17 vacuum on one end of the scale and a 10^17pressure on the other end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27743297 United States 02/11/2017 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It doesnt help things when the santa clause is in effect.basically people on the outskirts of mans perspective,manipulating outcomes. For example police and stingray units. They listen to your conversation then stage a speed trap because they know where you are driving.then oh its a random traffic stop. Dont fall for the bs.and folks wonder why we are paranoid. Its these ner do wells screwing up the equation of life.Even charity on the outskirts creates doubt in mans mind.which leads to mental illness. Thats right ,santa clause is a mental illness.just as religion is too. So you saw a miracle,define it or set it aside. If it repeats again then try again to define it. Thats how logic and reasoning work! Doubt leads to mental illness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73904952 United States 02/11/2017 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74004009 I don't see how this follows from the previous. Any ideas? The way I take it is, if it is a simulation, it's designed to figure out how the simulators were ultimately simulated. .. simulation theory is ridiculous prime example of the arrogance of man to assume that the entire universe and everything in it is just a simulation for humans It's ironic that you should accuse others of arrogance, given how profoundly arrogant -- and ill-informed -- your comment is. Simulation theory is far from ridiculous, and is far more complex than you seem to comprehend. Moreover, a "substantial" amount of evidence that lends credence to simulation theory/"Holographic Universe" theory has emerged (and continues to emerge), in recent times: [link to www.sciencealert.com] [link to www.techtimes.com] Also, not everyone is saying that it's "just a simulation for humans", so it's hardly a "prime example" of arrogance. Based upon your statement, it's obvious that you haven't actually researched all -- or any -- of the information, studies and viewpoints that are available, on the topic. Thus, it is the fact that you are commenting on a subject without truly understanding it that is "ridiculous"...not the theory, itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68674811 United States 02/11/2017 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74004009 I don't see how this follows from the previous. Any ideas? The way I take it is, if it is a simulation, it's designed to figure out how the simulators were ultimately simulated. .. simulation theory is ridiculous prime example of the arrogance of man to assume that the entire universe and everything in it is just a simulation for humans It's ironic that you should accuse others of arrogance, given how profoundly arrogant -- and ill-informed -- your comment is. Simulation theory is far from ridiculous, and is far more complex than you seem to comprehend. Moreover, a "substantial" amount of evidence that lends credence to simulation theory/"Holographic Universe" theory has emerged (and continues to emerge), in recent times: [link to www.sciencealert.com] [link to www.techtimes.com] Also, not everyone is saying that it's "just a simulation for humans", so it's hardly a "prime example" of arrogance. Based upon your statement, it's obvious that you haven't actually researched all -- or any -- of the information, studies and viewpoints that are available, on the topic. Thus, it is the fact that you are commenting on a subject without truly understanding it that is "ridiculous"...not the theory, itself. Based upon your statements, it's obvious you've never spent any time out in nature or actually researched all --or any-- of the information and data that nature makes available on this topic. simulation theory is about as stupid as flat earth theory |
The Comedian :D User ID: 74003154 United States 02/11/2017 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the most damning critique of western society: This thread has 1 page of responses. The "I love Hitler" thread has 9 and counting. We are literally surrounded by imbeciles. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
The Seeker User ID: 73993350 Australia 02/11/2017 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory is Archon Matrix, it's more relevant and we are experiencing this. Order or Chaos, 2 states of being in this matrix. Something is contained (order), everthing else is uncontained (chaos). eg. Brazil recently, MP (ORDER) go on strike, people go crazy (CHAOS) - 1 of the 2 states of being, they both require 50 / 50 balance. The universe is 50 /50 balance, but if this state is simulated, what is the desired result at the end of the simulation... the merging of order and chaos as a single entity. This entity will then conclude the end of the simulation, and will be transferred to the original universe, perhaps to fix something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56181680 Canada 02/11/2017 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe is not infinite its finite.theyve found the edge. Quoting: Robomont physics class 27743297 Thus they can do the equations to measure the quantity. Theres not infinite energy.its finite too. Our universe recycles via neutron stars. But the whole mechanism is in a balance. With the two outer rules being neutron destruction and neutron star creation. Anything below neutron will by nature go back up to neutron level.via reformation with other available quantum particles. Nature locks us into the equation or the equation locks us into a law of nature. The gap between the two rules is our existence.the fudge factor. Green light seems to be the center point. with a 10^17 vacuum on one end of the scale and a 10^17pressure on the other end. We barely landed on the satellite of our planet in recent years in the midst of the universe and you think we've definitely found the edge of it all? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68606831 United States 02/11/2017 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | therefore in principle there always remains the possibility for the simulated to discover the simulators. Quoting: Thisismyusername Of course and he is called God. Simulation theory is just another attempt to run away from the obvious. Excellent observation. Having studied all this for over 20yrs now (from scientific, philosophical, sociological, techhological perspectives), I can find no other explanation. 'The Simulation Hypothesis' is God for the intellectualti classes. Albeit with a puff of meritocracy thrown in to make it more acceptable (i.e. only clever beings who earned their place as simulators get to create the simulations). God is God. Halleluia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46254592 United States 02/11/2017 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The statement the edge of the universe has been found has held.nobody so far can debunk background microwave data. Thus there is an edge.the vaccuum that far out is so strong.atoms of hydrogen are probably the size of a car or bigger. Any math gurus on here want to define the diameter of hydrogen in a vacuum of 10^17 inches of mercury?at lets say just above absolute zero? So does the universe go further into the darkness of the abyss or does space fold back over like a donut outer edge.or is it a saucer edge? The current description is squashed ball i suspect. but so are almost all entities in a mhd system at the planetoid size and smaller down to the atom.solar systems are saucer shaped and galaxies are saucer shaped,odds are the universe is too. So basically starting at the atom,things are round but as size goes up,things become more saucer shaped.at the ends of the universe,we may be on a flat plane.lol.as the saucer stretches out to the edge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73917336 United States 02/11/2017 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not a simulation but more like a construct. Everything is alive and it is intelligent or under intelligent control. Indian folklore speaks of spirits in the animals. The off worlders are these very animals, birds, etc. They have that capability. I have said everything is alive and this is not an understatement. What you see in the storms, the wind, fire, volcano, is alive. This is spoken about as old myths, it is not. All you have to do is look at it next time and you might be able to see. Those that are awakening will see more and some already see. The entities that are visiting are from this solar system. They communicate with one another and they can be at any location and they are all cognizant of others at other completely different locations. Other groups of visitors are not connected to the local knowledge at least not automatically. So it is not a simulation by any means. Just giving you some perspective here as there is so much disinformation everywhere. You will see soon enough. All the events currently happening are by design as the Hopi also explained in their prophecy. There is an element of exact timing to all events. Everyone’s path is different but what I am speaking of here is basic and not having to do with any personal path. Formerly AC 36029018 |