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Lake Oroville Dam Is Failing -Main Spillway to open soon pg. 79

 
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That photo says it was uploaded one day ago. It shows simultaneous MS pouring out water and the river of brown water coming from either one of the breeches in the MS wall or from the very top. Previous photos have not shown that combination!

My guess would be that it is coming from the place where the sluice is broken. There was a failure point near the break that held up pretty well for several days, but could now be FUBAR. The stream looks like it could be 10 feet or wider in some places, so it's not a dinky rivulet.

It'll continue to widen.

If by some act of God the dam system doesn't fail, they will need to take the dam down rather than repair it. If they do repair it, it'll be a fool's errand.
 Quoting: Booger Cancer


It will fail. I build lakes, dams and overflows. This thing is over. I called this on Geo's thread from the early days. I have hundreds of informative posts on that thread.
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What scenario looks most likely to you? Will it be the MS washing out the bottom support of the dam as that stream widens? Or will that have little effect?

It seems to this lay person that if they can't turn off the MS, it will continue to produce increasing amounts of damage to earthen support side. Yet they can't close the MS, or they get a rapid ES failure.
 Quoting: Booger Cancer


My original hope was that they shut down the Main Spillway completely and allow the Emergency Overflow to handle the water for a period of time. Alternate the two overflows until we get through the spring. After the near immediate failure of the emergency overflow, I began to understand the ominous outlook.

Since the the EO failed they had no choice but to run the main spillway til it fails...they have now done that. I'm sure they were hoping that we would have more favorable weather conditions at this point...no such luck.

This is a clusterfuck and I do not envy those who are calling the shots. My main concern is that they get the folks out before this becomes deadly.
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They are pumping concrete into the ground by the MEGATON.
That strikes me as desperation.

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They seem to be trying anything at this point to stop the boils.
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2/18
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Oroville Dam Update/Inflow Now Overtaking Outflow!



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It will fail. I build lakes, dams and overflows. This thing is over. I called this on Geo's thread from the early days. I have hundreds of informative posts on that thread.
 Quoting: LJM77


What scenario looks most likely to you? Will it be the MS washing out the bottom support of the dam as that stream widens? Or will that have little effect?

It seems to this lay person that if they can't turn off the MS, it will continue to produce increasing amounts of damage to earthen support side. Yet they can't close the MS, or they get a rapid ES failure.
 Quoting: Booger Cancer


My original hope was that they shut down the Main Spillway completely and allow the Emergency Overflow to handle the water for a period of time. Alternate the two overflows until we get through the spring. After the near immediate failure of the emergency overflow, I began to understand the ominous outlook.

Since the the EO failed they had no choice but to run the main spillway til it fails...they have now done that. I'm sure they were hoping that we would have more favorable weather conditions at this point...no such luck.

This is a clusterfuck and I do not envy those who are calling the shots. My main concern is that they get the folks out before this becomes deadly.
 Quoting: LJM77


They are pumping concrete into the ground by the MEGATON.
That strikes me as desperation.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

They seem to be trying anything at this point to stop the boils.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Yeah, kind of sad and embarrassing to watch them scurry around after the dam has failed.
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Re: Lake Oroville Dam Is Failing -Main Spillway to open soon pg. 79
Good information at this site about Oroville Dam. Interesting and informative information on page 27.

Page 27 in the link...
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02/18/2017 –4:00pm Out- 54987 In- 38343
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It's about to go the other way I'm afraid.
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02/18/2017 –5:00pm Out- 54901 In- 35493
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02/18/2017 –6:00pm Out- 54928 In- 42850
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It's about to go the other way I'm afraid.
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I know :(...amazing to see how these numbers have fluctuated up and down. You are correct.
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I'm worried about not just #OrovilleDam, but several other dams currently >90% capacity & countless vulnerable levees, rivers, streams.
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Latest NWS forecast shows >12" rain in Northern California over the next 3 days, mostly Mon + Tues.
Buckle up, going to get interesting.
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Good information at this site about Oroville Dam. Interesting and informative information on page 27.

Page 27 in the link...
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 Quoting: Spirit Warrior ~8~


A bunch of egghead engineers trying to convince themselves the dam isn't going to fail. Ken seems to believe trouble is on the way however.
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Good information at this site about Oroville Dam. Interesting and informative information on page 27.

Page 27 in the link...
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A bunch of egghead engineers trying to convince themselves the dam isn't going to fail. Ken seems to believe trouble is on the way however.
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Yes... this!!!
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Jefe's backyard in #OlivehurstCA #OrovilleDam #Yuba #FirstTweet
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Re: Lake Oroville Dam Is Failing -Main Spillway to open soon pg. 79
A 2.7 magnitude earthquake occurred 1.24mi S of Malibu, CA. Details: (link: [link to eqbot.com] eqbot.com/CYk Map:
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*I know this is in Southern, but there is also the risk of earthquakes near the Oroville dam. There have already been many small quakes reported here. Overall, a very high risk of a moderate quake hitting anywhere in the state of California at this point.

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NWS forecasting 2.5" of rainfall in 72-hours (thru early Tues) at Oroville California. 4"-8"+ in the mountains to enter #LakeOroville
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*Be Aware*
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Widespread flooding and mudslides possible Sun-Mon. #cawx #caflood
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02/18/2017 –4:00pm Out- 54987 In- 38343
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Stay safe CA. I am off to bed.
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No coverup here... 5 Oroville Dam workers fired after posting pictures on social media (link: [link to kron4.com] kron4.com/2017/02/18/5-o… via @kron4news
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That is proof of a cover up. Do tptb have the right to hide such important information from citizens??
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the kron link is now gone
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#OrovilleDam HEROES! Thank you!
Awesome pictures by Casey Lee
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thanks OP..for this, i keep getting banned from other place/thread :( why?

i said on monday...get out folks, please get to a safe place.
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Some of us understood that this was the eventual outcome. We weren't hoping for it...we just understand the dynamics. We were attacked for our understanding of the situation. That's okay...I am praying for all who are affected.
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I think you are correct, OP.

Thread: Up-Date Pg.5: Oroville Dam Failure--May have been Predicted in "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" w/dates 17th/21st?

I've got this thread up on GLP--and I am also NOT
attempting to just "get attention" or create "fear."
Many of us have a "hinky" that this is going to unfold
as an epic natural disaster with loss of life and
property. We simply wish that people in this area
evacuate NOW when they have time to plan, put their
actions into play in a calm manner without the panic
of being under a MANDATORY EVAC--which is a really bad
way to try to help yourself or your family.

Glad you have the thread up, and continue to warn the
peeps to GET GOING!

Cheers!
O'sCookie

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Good video from February 12, 2017

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thanks OP..for this, i keep getting banned from other place/thread :( why?

i said on monday...get out folks, please get to a safe place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60953137


Some of us understood that this was the eventual outcome. We weren't hoping for it...we just understand the dynamics. We were attacked for our understanding of the situation. That's okay...I am praying for all who are affected.
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I think you are correct, OP.

Thread: Up-Date Pg.5: Oroville Dam Failure--May have been Predicted in "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" w/dates 17th/21st?

I've got this thread up on GLP--and I am also NOT
attempting to just "get attention" or create "fear."
Many of us have a "hinky" that this is going to unfold
as an epic natural disaster with loss of life and
property. We simply wish that people in this area
evacuate NOW when they have time to plan, put their
actions into play in a calm manner without the panic
of being under a MANDATORY EVAC--which is a really bad
way to try to help yourself or your family.

Glad you have the thread up, and continue to warn the
peeps to GET GOING!

Cheers!
O'sCookie

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If you live near the #Oroville dam, please heed law enforcement official announcements.
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I-5 is still slow due to flooding near Williams in Colusa County. Get QuickMap for cameras, closures, & road info- (link: [link to quickmap.dot.ca.gov)] quickmap.dot.ca.gov
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0z NAM-WRF precip bullseyes: North Bay, Santa Cruz mtns, Peninsula mtns, East Bay hills, w/ poss. slight rain shadow near San Jose. #CAwx
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Info in other parts of California...
Evac maps for SJ county. Bookmark it for if/when you need to evac because of levee breach. Be safe. (link: [link to www.sjmap.org] sjmap.org/evacmaps/ #CAwx #castorm
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Crazy waves at Goleta Beach right now. Violent waves pounding the Goleta Pier. #cawx
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Maxwell near I-5 floods as creeks swell; funnel cloud spotted near Nicolaus (link: [link to www.sacbee.com] sacbee.com/news/weather/a… … #CAwx #CAstorm #CAwater
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I-5 & CA 20 in Williams, Colusa County CA today #caflood #castorm #CAwx
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Rte 138, Hesperia. Waze offered it as an alternate to the I-15 mess.@SDsmiles. #CAwx #CAStorm
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Here's the latest timing of rain & mountain snow over Norcal, with increasing coverage & intensity by this evening. #CAwx #castorm #CAflood
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Town of Maxwell floods as worry about Oroville Dam shifts to creeks and canals - Sacramento Bee...
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