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Could this be a seriously real way to EXIT THE MATRIX?

 
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I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around this. Not that I thought it was rubbish, but I didn't "get" it. After watching the video, I think I understand, at least to some degree. In the simplest explanation I can come up with.....We are all pieces of the universal consciousness. Together, we are the universe. One day, the universe got bored and created a virtual reality Sims game where it/we could have multiple experiences. Good and bad, light and dark, yin and yang, is the universe playing cops and robbers so to speak...I would venture to say that parallel universes are different editions of the game. Of course there is so much more to it,but that's the way my brain is trying to process it.....
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you will never get it with the mind.
I wish Harmony, Love, Truth and Justice for all my brothers and sisters. With the United forces of the silent vibrations of our thoughts, we are strong, healthy and happy thus making a link of universal fraternity..
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I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around this. Not that I thought it was rubbish, but I didn't "get" it. After watching the video, I think I understand, at least to some degree. In the simplest explanation I can come up with.....We are all pieces of the universal consciousness. Together, we are the universe. One day, the universe got bored and created a virtual reality Sims game where it/we could have multiple experiences. Good and bad, light and dark, yin and yang, is the universe playing cops and robbers so to speak...I would venture to say that parallel universes are different editions of the game. Of course there is so much more to it,but that's the way my brain is trying to process it.....
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I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around this. Not that I thought it was rubbish, but I didn't "get" it. After watching the video, I think I understand, at least to some degree. In the simplest explanation I can come up with.....We are all pieces of the universal consciousness. Together, we are the universe. One day, the universe got bored and created a virtual reality Sims game where it/we could have multiple experiences. Good and bad, light and dark, yin and yang, is the universe playing cops and robbers so to speak...I would venture to say that parallel universes are different editions of the game. Of course there is so much more to it,but that's the way my brain is trying to process it.....
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In it's most simplistic form, yes, to me this is exactly how I've come to understand the basis of all this. For years I have always believed that if the single law we were to obey was to not harm each other in anyway or form all be it physical or mentally and had to respect each others boundaries of thoughts, belief and existance and did so because there was an understanding that to carry out such actions against another would instantly be inflicted upon you instead. All that was needed was an understanding that we truly do have the same rights and no rights all at the same time. To believe or not, if god created, then it should be only god who can take away. Other than that, our existance is equal to each others. And the crazy thing turns out this is exactly what happens, only it's not apparent at the time of event. NDE's describe what is dubbed a life review and the notion that everything that they had emitted in this known reality both good and bad is then experienced as was from the recipient and flows directly back through them. we do feel and connect to each other, if only more people were aware of that in the here and now rather than the after part.


I have to say, I didn’t even expect to find a matrix or was even looking for one. Then I started to think the matrix was very much present but here with us now and was more of a symbolic notion for the people who appeared to be a sleep around me and preferred to stay that way when things like how exactly a banking system works and what your birth certificate really means along with other evidence that clearly pointed to the fact the world had been hijacked and many were oblivious to it, this was not how it was, but is how it has become and had done so because it was engineered towards fulfilling the desires of a few whilst disregarding the importance of the many. I mean seriously, the natural elements designed to support the energy of the bodies in this reality has literally been declared as the sole rights of a few people. Mortals may I add with the same weaknesses and life span that we have in this reality. And no one seemed to be questioning this or challenge the fact they weren’t even around at the time of it’s creation so can’t have the rights or deeds to such privilege.

But as this internal sensation drove me to the likes of questioning what happens next beyond all this and where have others before me have actually gone, I started to see evidence that we were in fact in a matrix ourselves already, that is absolutely crazy to think of. My quest for the next inadvertently smashed my concept and understanding of the now and I have to say at this point I did start to sense I was becoming dangerously lost trying to piece this together. I’m not saying this is fact though, but from all the bits I am looking at, all of which are from seemingly unrelated topics, that video helped make a lot of sense to understand how these bits complete each other. Whilst it’s not gone into from this perspective on the video, the evidence for it’s existence is what science is starting to understand as the Adinkra, super symmetry patterns that form the very cosmos around us. Now listen to the experiences of DMT and other psychedelics. Common theme (mainly dependent on initial amount taken) is psychedelic patterns and a sensation of flying through them. There is no attempt in understanding the whys of that, only it’s really pretty to look as they whizz through this amazing complexity of patterns and colours. I am so confident that what science is describing they are seeing, DMT is literally disconnect from mind that reveals the coding that makes up the appearance of everything around us. What further add to this is in the subject UFO’s & ET. There was a talk about some drawings that were created by a 1 contactee that from our understanding looked nothing other than fractual patterns of geometry. But from their understanding, they say this was a some kind of formula involving our perception of light (or something like that), and this drawing was shown to one other experiencer who claimed to have ended up with the ability to understand and see fractual geometry around us through his own contact with these beings. Sure enough, he repeated the exact same description for what the fractual geometry represented. It all fits together. We can experience each other because we are part of the same code that forms the existence of this reality. Quite literally I am you and you are me. I’m just finishing of a quick a crude video that helps to show how these various elements form that outcome and look forward to hearing thoughts based around it
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I forgot to add with the DMT stuff that apart from the pretty patterns, there is a sense they are being enriched with a deep understanding of them selves and bombarded with information they can't even process with the few bits they can take away from it. We see this from the side of the player on the other side of the screen normally. But thats not how the same looks, it is by its own existance code, we just don;t see that. DMT seems to glitch that system and allow you to peek and the very thing currently running your own perception of reality. It's not our final destination, its glimpse as what is actually running all around us but is so complex we see it as nothing more than trippy patterns, we can;t read or understand its true meaning.
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Last random thought on this... but in some way doesn't this both fit the god made this everything in 7 days but from our scientific understanding (which by all accounts is only relevant in this reality when compared to the boundaries in which how the 'after' works - all good grounds for science to dismiss the few bread crumbs around us). So lets say it took X days to code this place but what that code holds is the fabric and background story of how earth came to be and can exist. Example to our current reality - the wild west game red dead redemption. Built only a few years ago but you play in setting that says you are somewhere much further back in time, this is possible because thats what the code was truthful. Does that make any sense?
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.... this is possible because thats what the code was but that doesn;t make it's existance any more truthful. Does that make any sense?
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I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around this. Not that I thought it was rubbish, but I didn't "get" it. After watching the video, I think I understand, at least to some degree. In the simplest explanation I can come up with.....We are all pieces of the universal consciousness. Together, we are the universe. One day, the universe got bored and created a virtual reality Sims game where it/we could have multiple experiences. Good and bad, light and dark, yin and yang, is the universe playing cops and robbers so to speak...I would venture to say that parallel universes are different editions of the game. Of course there is so much more to it,but that's the way my brain is trying to process it.....
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you will never get it with the mind.
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I have been "waking up", or trying to for a few years. I seem to have to do it in small chunks at a time because it's difficult to process. I am at a point where what I do understand, I can't seem to articulate adequately. I was talking to my husband about timeline shifts and he asked me why I don't think ME has anything to do with the government, and I knew what I was trying to say, but even now I can't quite find the phrase I am looking for. But I told him that the government is insignificant in the timeline thing. Government, society...it's too small for that. While they are grabbing for power and committing atrocities, worried about money and control, we could have an ELE tomorrow and they would be virtually powerless. They mean nothing in the big picture. And that is where I am at with non-duality now. If I realize that the material world-what I see around me is a facade (?) a hologram (?) or not real, where does that leave me? How do I approach life?
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I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around this. Not that I thought it was rubbish, but I didn't "get" it. After watching the video, I think I understand, at least to some degree. In the simplest explanation I can come up with.....We are all pieces of the universal consciousness. Together, we are the universe. One day, the universe got bored and created a virtual reality Sims game where it/we could have multiple experiences. Good and bad, light and dark, yin and yang, is the universe playing cops and robbers so to speak...I would venture to say that parallel universes are different editions of the game. Of course there is so much more to it,but that's the way my brain is trying to process it.....
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you will never get it with the mind.
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I have been "waking up", or trying to for a few years. I seem to have to do it in small chunks at a time because it's difficult to process. I am at a point where what I do understand, I can't seem to articulate adequately. I was talking to my husband about timeline shifts and he asked me why I don't think ME has anything to do with the government, and I knew what I was trying to say, but even now I can't quite find the phrase I am looking for. But I told him that the government is insignificant in the timeline thing. Government, society...it's too small for that. While they are grabbing for power and committing atrocities, worried about money and control, we could have an ELE tomorrow and they would be virtually powerless. They mean nothing in the big picture. And that is where I am at with non-duality now. If I realize that the material world-what I see around me is a facade (?) a hologram (?) or not real, where does that leave me? How do I approach life?
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Don't get lost in that thought process. In the event you arrive at such a conclusion your self, then you must realize that we would never be able effect or alter anything the circumstances that put it here originally. It would be like a character becoming a ware mid game that there was a large window looking in on the world he finds hims self in and looks like nothing he can comprehend based on the reality in which he understands. Whats more, there is no way of getting through that window. It's not where he is supposed to exist or even be consiously aware of. He was meant to be and created for the perception he understood prior to that moment. Like you and everyone else, you were created for here and have purpose here - you were meant to be for a reason, don;t lose touch with where you are currently regardless of what your personal beliefs are on all of this.
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I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around this. Not that I thought it was rubbish, but I didn't "get" it. After watching the video, I think I understand, at least to some degree. In the simplest explanation I can come up with.....We are all pieces of the universal consciousness. Together, we are the universe. One day, the universe got bored and created a virtual reality Sims game where it/we could have multiple experiences. Good and bad, light and dark, yin and yang, is the universe playing cops and robbers so to speak...I would venture to say that parallel universes are different editions of the game. Of course there is so much more to it,but that's the way my brain is trying to process it.....
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you will never get it with the mind.
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I have been "waking up", or trying to for a few years. I seem to have to do it in small chunks at a time because it's difficult to process. I am at a point where what I do understand, I can't seem to articulate adequately. I was talking to my husband about timeline shifts and he asked me why I don't think ME has anything to do with the government, and I knew what I was trying to say, but even now I can't quite find the phrase I am looking for. But I told him that the government is insignificant in the timeline thing. Government, society...it's too small for that. While they are grabbing for power and committing atrocities, worried about money and control, we could have an ELE tomorrow and they would be virtually powerless. They mean nothing in the big picture. And that is where I am at with non-duality now. If I realize that the material world-what I see around me is a facade (?) a hologram (?) or not real, where does that leave me? How do I approach life?
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Don't get lost in that thought process. In the event you arrive at such a conclusion your self, then you must realize that we would never be able effect or alter anything the circumstances that put it here originally. It would be like a character becoming a ware mid game that there was a large window looking in on the world he finds hims self in and looks like nothing he can comprehend based on the reality in which he understands. Whats more, there is no way of getting through that window. It's not where he is supposed to exist or even be consiously aware of. He was meant to be and created for the perception he understood prior to that moment. Like you and everyone else, you were created for here and have purpose here - you were meant to be for a reason, don;t lose touch with where you are currently regardless of what your personal beliefs are on all of this.
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Yes, it would be easy to get lost in "life is pointless ", but if you continue in the matrix/virtual reality thought process...When I used to play Sims I'd create each family with a purpose. This one is going to master cooking...this one is going to raise kids....grandma is going to die and haunt the family....It's reasonable to say we still have a purpose in life, even if it's all virtual. Still so fascinating though.
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This video does give some food for thought as to how this scenario would even be possible.

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you will never get it with the mind.
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I have been "waking up", or trying to for a few years. I seem to have to do it in small chunks at a time because it's difficult to process. I am at a point where what I do understand, I can't seem to articulate adequately. I was talking to my husband about timeline shifts and he asked me why I don't think ME has anything to do with the government, and I knew what I was trying to say, but even now I can't quite find the phrase I am looking for. But I told him that the government is insignificant in the timeline thing. Government, society...it's too small for that. While they are grabbing for power and committing atrocities, worried about money and control, we could have an ELE tomorrow and they would be virtually powerless. They mean nothing in the big picture. And that is where I am at with non-duality now. If I realize that the material world-what I see around me is a facade (?) a hologram (?) or not real, where does that leave me? How do I approach life?
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Don't get lost in that thought process. In the event you arrive at such a conclusion your self, then you must realize that we would never be able effect or alter anything the circumstances that put it here originally. It would be like a character becoming a ware mid game that there was a large window looking in on the world he finds hims self in and looks like nothing he can comprehend based on the reality in which he understands. Whats more, there is no way of getting through that window. It's not where he is supposed to exist or even be consiously aware of. He was meant to be and created for the perception he understood prior to that moment. Like you and everyone else, you were created for here and have purpose here - you were meant to be for a reason, don;t lose touch with where you are currently regardless of what your personal beliefs are on all of this.
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Yes, it would be easy to get lost in "life is pointless ", but if you continue in the matrix/virtual reality thought process...When I used to play Sims I'd create each family with a purpose. This one is going to master cooking...this one is going to raise kids....grandma is going to die and haunt the family....It's reasonable to say we still have a purpose in life, even if it's all virtual. Still so fascinating though.
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Incredibly mind bending at the same time. Easy to slip into moments of 'how much is real', example, are you the only one who exists and everything else is simulated and stimulated. If you start thinking that though - step away. You are real, as real as we will ever understand at least and are here and very much present along with everyone else. WHilst its a very interesting concept to explore in the mind, I do not recommend you explore this with anyone who has not given due thought to concept of death let alone anything else put forward!!
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So we take this journey. We explore deeply into ourself. We gradually weed out all that is temporary and transitory. At some point, by process of elimination (and illumination) the truth of our being-ness is revealed: we realize that there never was an actually existing separate self. There was only ever pure, unborn, ever shining Awareness.

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Your separate self didn’t walk itself back and discover me. Your separate self was simply a self imposed limitation on your true Self. But even the self imposed limitation of the separate self, the ‘I’ of the separate self is Infinite Beingness Shining. That is why the thought ‘I’ is the portal. It is the portal through which the separate self travels its way back to Me and it’s the portal through which I travel when I want to apparently limit myself and take the form of the finite mind in order to know an objective world.

So it’s a two way street. You travel one way through it, you pass out of time into eternity and eternity travels the other way through it out of eternity into time into manifestation. That is why the I thought is the sacred name: I AM. It is what the separate self and I have in common. This is the only place we meet.

I know nothing of the separate you and the separate you knows nothing of Me but we both share ‘I’. That is the place, the portal, the dimensionless point through which your apparently separate self has access to its reality.

I AM the way the truth and the life.

I AM is my name.

I am is in your head and in your thinking. I am is in your eyes and your seeing. I Am is in your ears and your hearing. I AM is in your mouth and in your speaking. I AM in your heart and in your understanding.


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In the past I overlooked the awareness that is my essential self and imagined myself to be a cluster of thoughts and feelings. I now am simply noticing that I am already that which knows and that which is aware of my experience. It is impossible to be anything other than that. It is impossible to be anything other than that which is aware of this experience.

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Every thought, every feeling, every action, everything in the universe is involved in my slightest thought or feeling. As I am one with and part of the entirely of all of creation, I am effortlessly and knowingly that which is aware of my thoughts and feelings. I am that. I know my self as that. I allow whatever feelings, sights, sounds, tastes, textures and bodily sensations to be simply as they are.

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I, awareness, am wide open in all directions to whatever is appearing. I am knowingly this wide open, knowing, aware presence. This presence is not involved with any particular appearance. It just allows every appearance to be as it is - just like a video monitor allows any and all images to simply, openly, luminously appear.

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My awareness of experience is intimately one with it. My sense of open expansiveness pervades all my experiences and is at the same time not confined by them. Who and what I truly am is neither benefited nor harmed in any way by any of my experiences.

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What I essentially am can’t be defined by any of my experiences regardless of how transcendent they are.

What I essentially am is pure, boundaryless beingness.


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Behind my every experience of thinking or perceiving is the simple knowing of it. That knowing is the transparent awareness of my true, selfless self.

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All thoughts, sensations and perceptions are mediated by pure, non-dual awareness. This ever shining, ever present awareness is intrinsic to our very existence. It is the one thing that is real. It is the one thing we can always count on.
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Whenever I feel unhappy or out of sorts, I remind myself that this is a case of mistaken identity - that I’ve mistaken myself for a particular cluster of thoughts and feelings - that I’ve mistaken myself as a separate self - and that in fact, my true identity is open, timeless awareness.

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Events trigger our likes and dislikes.

The events that precede the triggering of these likes and dislikes are not under our control. We do however have the capacity to manage how we respond to those events if we want to.

The problem is that we identify with what we like and don’t like and so are usually not inclined to reign in our reaction to either positive or negative events as they arise.

But if we want a mind that’s free of agitation, then we will see the wisdom of managing how we respond to events. The more we manage our reactions, the weaker they become.
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The only thing i know of the world, the only substance of it, is the knowing of it.

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Indeed.

Loving this thread!!!

5 STARS!

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The only thing i know of the world, the only substance of it, is the knowing of it.

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Excellent thread. I had an intense flash the other night that the whole truth was contained in the simple statement of "when you pay attention to yourself."

Right there you have the knower [you], the knowing [attention] and the known [yourself] all in one because it is awareness that is being aware of awareness.

Of course, most folks think that paying attention to themselves means paying attention to this or that about themselves, but that is a misconception.

I am is the truth.
I am this or that is not the truth.

Nisargadatta bring such clarity to this, as does Ramana. So nice to see something on advaita. Thanks for posting this thread.
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Agreed.

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Events trigger our likes and dislikes.

The events that precede the triggering of these likes and dislikes are not under our control. We do however have the capacity to manage how we respond to those events if we want to.

The problem is that we identify with what we like and don’t like and so are usually not inclined to reign in our reaction to either positive or negative events as they arise.

But if we want a mind that’s free of agitation, then we will see the wisdom of managing how we respond to events. The more we manage our reactions, the weaker they become.

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I could not agree with you more.

Attachment can lead to difficulty.

Perception and Intent:

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Knowledge without devotion can never bear fruit.
I wish Harmony, Love, Truth and Justice for all my brothers and sisters. With the United forces of the silent vibrations of our thoughts, we are strong, healthy and happy thus making a link of universal fraternity..
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Knowledge without devotion can never bear fruit.
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How do you define 'devotion'?
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Knowledge without devotion can never bear fruit.
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How do you define 'devotion'?
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Good QUESTION!

Greetings, OP.

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Why do I experience happiness when I get what I want? Because when I get what I want, that desire momentarily dissolves and when that desire dissolves, my naturally inner peaceful state is revealed.

In other words, desires hide my naturally inner peaceful state. That’s why when I get what I want, I feel satisfied, happy. But it’s not the object itself that’s making me happy. It’s that now that the object has come into my possession, my desire for it is fulfilled and is, at least for a short time, extinguished.
No longer experiencing desire, my inner relaxed state bubbles up to the surface where it is experienced as happiness or contentedness or sometime even as bliss.

But then, after a while, due to karmic tendencies of the mind, other desires usually arise and like clouds covering the sun, the new desires obscure my inner serenity.

The bottom line is that a very nurturing inner stillness is always present in me, but that it gets obscured by desires that come and go. So to access that stillness, I try to stay mindful that I have the power to manage how I react when desires arise.

By easing off on how I react to desires, the less powerful they become. The less powerful they are, the less effective they are in obscuring my naturally abiding inner peace.
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Re: Could this be a seriously real way to EXIT THE MATRIX?
Yes. Detachment. Hard stuff to do.

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Yes. Detachment. Hard stuff to do.

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 Quoting: LilMiss


It all depends. It's easier to be detached if you understand that life is truly what happens, as they say: 'while we're busy making plans'.

In other words, the more we think we're in control, the harder it is to be detached.

Much has been said about the widom of living in the now.

Question: how easy is it to live in the now - to breathe in the fullness of this moment, if i'm trying to control it?





GLP