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WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/17/2017 04:34 AM
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People on welfare can't afford drugs. Phenomenal waste of money testing them all, of course there are few and far between bad apples but I guarantee this will cost more in testing then it will save.
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02/17/2017 04:39 AM
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It should be a 3 to 6 month lockout if tested positive, not years, anyway its a good idea, i back him also if my gov does the same
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02/17/2017 04:41 AM
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People on welfare can't afford drugs. Phenomenal waste of money testing them all, of course there are few and far between bad apples but I guarantee this will cost more in testing then it will save.
 Quoting: Dredrum


hesright


Leading by example is best policy
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02/17/2017 04:42 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
I have done many work place drug and alcohol screenings and the piss test only shows if you are affected by the substance at the time.
It doesn't show if you smoked a joint last Saturday night.

However blood tests show if you have taken drugs weeks before and even hair sample tests can show if you have used months before.
These should never be used for employment purposes as you are trying to asses purely if the person will be affected by the substance during work hours.

This is discrimination as a person who used alcohol will be clear yet a person who used marijuana will not.

Even a liver function test for Gamma GT enzymes for alcohol will generally show normal after 2-3 days.
Only a regular heavy alcohol user will show elevated Gamma GT.

So if you smoke a joint on a Saturday night and get piss tested on Monday you should be fine.

If your employer asks you to take a blood test then sue his ass because what you did 3 weeks ago at a party on the weekend is none of his damn business and is outside the scope of employment drug and alcohol screening.
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
removing welfre from those most likely to steal, is only going to lead to disaster.
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02/17/2017 04:43 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
only illegal drugs? or all drugs?

and why will alcohol be exempt?
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02/17/2017 04:45 AM
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And just remember, it'll be your tax dollars that pay for those drug tests!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73630146


Better than tax dollars paying for drugs. Which causes more tax dollars to be wasted fixing society.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74032030


but is it though? because that's just a complete guess you made there.
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02/17/2017 04:46 AM
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I just think it's funny you Americans give welfare to black people who aren't indiginous.

But that shit happens here too, but we make them work for that welfare.
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02/17/2017 04:47 AM
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73291984


clappa
Hebrews 2:3 “how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation”
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02/17/2017 04:49 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
goodbye ghettos!
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The ghettos are being addressed through gentrification and "white-return". It's already happening. Were this a real story about a real EO we might find out if it would speed up the process. As it stands, "Fake News".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72682015


yea fucking black guy just playing a joke
CitizenPerth

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02/17/2017 04:55 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
can you imagine? 85 percent.. poof! AND THEY'RE GONE!

laugh


at least the honest ones would remain... another win-win for trump ;)
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02/17/2017 04:58 AM
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i bet the CIA wouldn't allow this, who would buy their smuggled wares if they drug test people? they need the drug sales to fund their illegal wars
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02/17/2017 05:13 AM
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ummm all politicians should be randomly tested,,lets even the playing field
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02/17/2017 05:13 AM
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Funny that the politicians don't get tested.
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02/17/2017 05:20 AM
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ummm all politicians should be randomly tested,,lets even the playing field
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72616756


All citizens, including politicians. Tourists as well. Every person with a foot on US soul.

Druggie tourists should be sent back immediately.

Druggie White US-citizens off to the re-education camps.

Druggie non-whites off to the work-camps - "Extermination through labour" like we like to call that.
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02/17/2017 05:23 AM
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People on welfare can't afford drugs. Phenomenal waste of money testing them all, of course there are few and far between bad apples but I guarantee this will cost more in testing then it will save.
 Quoting: Dredrum


You don't seem to understand most people on welfare sell drugs.
Anonymous Coward
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02/17/2017 05:28 AM
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Drug testing is bullshit. The drug war is bullshit.
It was has been proven when states have tried this that
it is not worth the money. Drug tests should be disallowed for everyone. Course everyone who has to take drug tests for their job want others to be just as miserable but nobody should have to give body fluids for employer or government inspection. Disgusting.
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02/17/2017 05:31 AM
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Should drug test congress too.
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02/17/2017 05:32 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
9teen What seems to be overlooked by those who have made it, is that life is often so fucking depressing for those who haven't, is that drugs offer a much needed avenue of escape. There where no laws about it in the 19th century and society did not fall apart.

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02/17/2017 05:34 AM
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I cant believe no one is talking about the survey trump just put out, he wants your opinion on a few things, why isnt it pinned on GLP.
AquaBrat

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02/17/2017 05:40 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
Anyone got a link to this EO?
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


I linked to the White House page of EOs above. So far there is no EO that addresses welfare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30808091


Here ya go. It's not an EO

It's a BILL

[link to katv.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73291984


"But the department's spokesman does point to savings. A family of three on welfare costs the state about $200 a month."

Huh? Is welfare different from "food stamps"?
hi
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02/17/2017 06:02 AM
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I cant believe no one is talking about the survey trump just put out, he wants your opinion on a few things, why isnt it pinned on GLP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68544331


Link?
ReKT

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02/17/2017 07:00 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
9teen What seems to be overlooked by those who have made it, is that life is often so fucking depressing for those who haven't, is that drugs offer a much needed avenue of escape. There where no laws about it in the 19th century and society did not fall apart.
 Quoting: Judethz


wow i'm actually agreeing with judeth.. just who are you anyway?!
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curry nosher

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02/17/2017 07:03 AM

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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
It maybe fake but i have been saying this for yrs...

These people let their kids go hungry and dirty etc yet always manage to get fags/booze and drugs while crying they cannot get a job....

I know this isnt the same for everyone and tokers esp BUT, it is for the majority inc in the uk!

I have known many people with kids in this bracket and they scream poverty while somehow smoking green all week and rackin up coke boshin pills/neckin beer all weekend while on the dole and a family to feed etc.

God knows how they do it but i truly believe this is a good thing IF true hf
curry nosher

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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
9teen What seems to be overlooked by those who have made it, is that life is often so fucking depressing for those who haven't, is that drugs offer a much needed avenue of escape. There where no laws about it in the 19th century and society did not fall apart.
 Quoting: Judethz


I agree to some extent but why should the govt (taxpayers) pay for users habits inc rec.. when the majority of these are just milking the system and not genuinely in need of further assistance re - healthwise.

I could count the number of genuine cases on one hand while i know another 100 plus who are just takin the piss for as much as they can INC fake mental health claims for extra cash etc hf

Sorry judeth but it is really like this imo hf
AquaBrat

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02/17/2017 07:17 AM
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Re: WINNING TRUMP EO to DrugTest Welfare recipients!
It would just be nice to have someone looking out for the average, working citizen.. for once....
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The Deplorable MnB15

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02/17/2017 07:37 AM
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And just remember, it'll be your tax dollars that pay for those drug tests!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73630146


That's cheaper than continuous food stamps!

Last Edited by MnB15 on 02/17/2017 07:37 AM
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It would just be nice to have someone looking out for the average, working citizen.. for once....
 Quoting: AquaBrat


1rof1

that's funny
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They should drug test cops too.


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