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It's been a while since we had some good Financial DOOM news! Here you go! March 15, 2017!!

 
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This huge rise in the market is ludicrous.

Trillions in Quantitative easement and manipulated markets leading to 2008 crash and massive banker bailouts is a whole lot of fake money supporting this supposed happy health market because of Trump.

Holy shit people have gone dumb.
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Former White House Budget Director David Stockman drops a bomb in his latest interview by saying, “I think what people are missing is this date, March 15th 2017. That’s the day that this debt ceiling holiday that Obama and Boehner put together right before the last election in October of 2015. That holiday expires. The debt ceiling will freeze in at $20 trillion. It will then be law. It will be a hard stop. The Treasury will have roughly $200 billion in cash. We are burning cash at a $75 billion a month rate. By summer, they will be out of cash. Then we will be in the mother of all debt ceiling crises. Everything will grind to a halt. I think we will have a government shutdown. There will not be Obama Care repeal and replace. There will be no tax cut. There will be no infrastructure stimulus. There will be just one giant fiscal bloodbath over a debt ceiling that has to be increased and no one wants to vote for.”



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Here is what will happen.
The FED will NOT raise interest rates,
and the debt ceiling legislation will
be shredded, and replaced with another
debt ceiling act to take effect in 2036.
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Laws are subject to change.
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That is what I was thinking.
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Laws are subject to change.
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Nah! We own the money machine of the world
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Wouldn't it be great to just print $100 bills from your ink jet at home. Sure, it is based on zero assets, but it is just what our Federal Reserve does right? So it is okay to do right?
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Please don't call it "our" Federal Reserve...it's a gaggle of Zionist bankers.
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Have the banksters sucked the country dry? Are they ready to pull the plug? Our wealth is pretty much gone, but they still would make use of our military. If they are going to pull the plug, there will be a boogey-man to blame. It must be a false flag so that they can kill two birds with one stone, and get the country mobilized for war.

What effect, if any, will the war economy have on the crash?
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Laws are subject to change.
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Indeed... :greenkarma:
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Just let it collapse.
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Sadly, they will probably increase the debt ceiling and then fire up the printing presses to produce more fiat currency.

Get ready for inflation, that is where all of this is leading.
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


Sadly?

You would just prefer to pull the plug on America and the trump administration? A lot of people worked hard and prayed harder for Trump and this country. If he needs more time then we should happily increase the deficit to give him that.

We let obama add 10 trillion but will stop trump just months and a few hundred billion into his administration?
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Obama add 14 trillion dollars.
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Trumptards solution proving they are insane...keep doing more of the same expecting different results
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Ok Idiot, does it make sense to let Obama spend 14 trillion dollars and then a month after Trump is in office we stop spending?

This is a set up, i would say raise ot 1 more time give Trump the chance to figure out the solution to the debt problem.

You have to give him at least a chance, cant work with out a budget

TRUMP will eventually get the debt reduced by making a deal, watch and see.

Federal reserve has to go, no doubt



The reason the democrats would let the ceiling stay is to cause major inflation, to destroy the dollar, they will do yhis because it is the plan of the NWO, this is the only way to destroy the dollar and get a one world currency.

Satans Plan and we know Democrats work for Satan

This is why Obama ran up the debt, he knew he had to cause major inflation to get his agenda through
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Former White House Budget Director David Stockman drops a bomb in his latest interview by saying, “I think what people are missing is this date, March 15th 2017. That’s the day that this debt ceiling holiday that Obama and Boehner put together right before the last election in October of 2015. That holiday expires. The debt ceiling will freeze in at $20 trillion. It will then be law. It will be a hard stop. The Treasury will have roughly $200 billion in cash. We are burning cash at a $75 billion a month rate. By summer, they will be out of cash. Then we will be in the mother of all debt ceiling crises. Everything will grind to a halt. I think we will have a government shutdown. There will not be Obama Care repeal and replace. There will be no tax cut. There will be no infrastructure stimulus. There will be just one giant fiscal bloodbath over a debt ceiling that has to be increased and no one wants to vote for.”



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Sadly, they will probably increase the debt ceiling and then fire up the printing presses to produce more fiat currency.

Get ready for inflation, that is where all of this is leading.
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If the Federal Reserve was abolished, like Bernie Sanders said, the U.S. Treasury could print its own money AND NOT HAVE TO PAY INTEREST TO THE BLOODSUCKING FED.

The U.S. Treasury, just like any other country's government, does not have to pay some one else to print and loan it money, it's constitutionally empowered to print its own.

There wouldn't be a 20 trillion dollar debt if the U.S. Treasury was not robbed of its printing rights in 1913 by the 7 biggest banks and a bunch of traitorist corrupt Congressmen voting it in.

The National Debt is a fraudulent liability inflicted by the private banks that own the Federal Reserve. Since 1913 it's been the goal to ensnare the U.S. Government in an inescapable trap that has made TRILLIONS in profits for the largest banks in the world.
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BUT, BUT, BUT they say we owe ourselves!!!! lololol!!! The traitors who run amok among our universities and newspapers tell me that that money is owed to us WE THE PEOPLE!! lololololololol!!! No stupid mother freakers, IT IS OWED TO A PRIVATE INTEREST THAT HAS NO ALLEGIANCE TO THE US OF A!! The Federal Reserve has no allegiance to this nation, but to making as much money off the backs of americans as possible through debt!!! They will get that debt ceiling raised and they will make sure that obamacare won't be repealed, and if it does get repealed it will be replaced with Obamacare II.
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Stand back, and prepare to be in awe...

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In awe of the abject fucking ignorance involved in worshiping a politician mebbe.

epiclol
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The simple math can never be avoided.

No amount of hero worship , wishes or hopium will ever change that.

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Former White House Budget Director David Stockman drops a bomb in his latest interview by saying, “I think what people are missing is this date, March 15th 2017. That’s the day that this debt ceiling holiday that Obama and Boehner put together right before the last election in October of 2015. That holiday expires. The debt ceiling will freeze in at $20 trillion. It will then be law. It will be a hard stop. The Treasury will have roughly $200 billion in cash. We are burning cash at a $75 billion a month rate. By summer, they will be out of cash. Then we will be in the mother of all debt ceiling crises. Everything will grind to a halt. I think we will have a government shutdown. There will not be Obama Care repeal and replace. There will be no tax cut. There will be no infrastructure stimulus. There will be just one giant fiscal bloodbath over a debt ceiling that has to be increased and no one wants to vote for.”



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There will be ways around it.
...and it will just further underscore America how DESTRUCTIVE the RINO Progressives / Socialists / Democraps have been to the USA.

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Stand back, and prepare to be in awe...

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In awe of the abject fucking ignorance involved in worshiping a politician mebbe.

epiclol
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NO shit, it is fast becoming sickening.
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There will be ways around it.


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Like 'kicking the can' for another year?

And the year after that?

and after that?

and after that?

:)

There is no escaping the simple math, ultimately.

There is no more 'growth' potential left in in the entire western economic paradigm. It's tapped out. Done. Finished. Over.

100% + debt to GDP ratios cannot be 'prayed' or 'hoped' or 'wished' away.

Piling more debt on top of it in any form is only adding fuel to the already collapsing and burning ponzi.

It must and will eventually collapse into a smoking ruin, no matter who presides over it.

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With Obama as president, the debt ceiling was a BIG deal.
With Trump as president, the debt ceiling will be NO big deal.
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Might even vote to eliminate the debt ceiling for the next 4 years and just spend spend spend!
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I wouldn't get too doomish here. Stockman's basis for this March 15th doom date is the upcoming debt ceiling deadline. I thought his argument would be more substantial that that. All the fucking government will do is simply raise the debt ceiling once again like they always have in the past.

They've been kicking the can down the road for years now.
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They've been kicking the can down the road for years now.
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How much longer is that sustainable?
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I wouldn't get too doomish here. Stockman's basis for this March 15th doom date is the upcoming debt ceiling deadline. I thought his argument would be more substantial that that. All the fucking government will do is simply raise the debt ceiling once again like they always have in the past.

They've been kicking the can down the road for years now.
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^^ True
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Former White House Budget Director David Stockman drops a bomb in his latest interview by saying, “I think what people are missing is this date, March 15th 2017. That’s the day that this debt ceiling holiday that Obama and Boehner put together right before the last election in October of 2015. That holiday expires. The debt ceiling will freeze in at $20 trillion. It will then be law. It will be a hard stop. The Treasury will have roughly $200 billion in cash. We are burning cash at a $75 billion a month rate. By summer, they will be out of cash. Then we will be in the mother of all debt ceiling crises. Everything will grind to a halt. I think we will have a government shutdown. There will not be Obama Care repeal and replace. There will be no tax cut. There will be no infrastructure stimulus. There will be just one giant fiscal bloodbath over a debt ceiling that has to be increased and no one wants to vote for.”



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Sadly, they will probably increase the debt ceiling and then fire up the printing presses to produce more fiat currency.

Get ready for inflation, that is where all of this is leading.
 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


Sadly?

You would just prefer to pull the plug on America and the trump administration? A lot of people worked hard and prayed harder for Trump and this country. If he needs more time then we should happily increase the deficit to give him that.

We let obama add 10 trillion but will stop trump just months and a few hundred billion into his administration?
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Obama add 14 trillion dollars.
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And President Trump just found two trillion in the last couple of weeks alone in fraud and waste. I prefer to believe he is going to pull us out, we need to give him that chance, regardless of party lines!
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Former White House Budget Director David Stockman drops a bomb in his latest interview by saying, “I think what people are missing is this date, March 15th 2017. That’s the day that this debt ceiling holiday that Obama and Boehner put together right before the last election in October of 2015. That holiday expires. The debt ceiling will freeze in at $20 trillion. It will then be law. It will be a hard stop. The Treasury will have roughly $200 billion in cash. We are burning cash at a $75 billion a month rate. By summer, they will be out of cash. Then we will be in the mother of all debt ceiling crises. Everything will grind to a halt. I think we will have a government shutdown. There will not be Obama Care repeal and replace. There will be no tax cut. There will be no infrastructure stimulus. There will be just one giant fiscal bloodbath over a debt ceiling that has to be increased and no one wants to vote for.”



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Does anybody understand what he meant at the end regarding gold and playing the long game? Thanks.
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Yes, inflation cometh. Oil prices will rise, increasing the costs of production and transportation. Utility bills will go higher, food prices will rise (already have).

President Trump is doing all he can to cut expenses, but will it be enough to prevent a total collapse?

Congress can repeal the Federal Reserve Act and put control of the money back in the Treasury:

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act:

A simple majority vote in both houses of Congress is all that is required to repeal the Federal Reserve Act. Section 31 of the Act states that "The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved".

Congress has the power to dissolve the Federal Reserve and should exercise this prerogative before we enter into yet another period of inflation or stagnation. The Federal government would be obligated to buy back its stock in the Federal Reserve, which would cost about 1 billion dollars. Section 7 of the Federal Reserve Act says that if the Fed is dissolved, the surplus becomes the property of the United States.

The Fed is estimated to be worth, according to its own March, 1982 issue of the "Federal Reserve Bulletin, $168.5 billion, with an additional estimate of $92 billion in gold, which comes to a grand total of $250 billion dollars". This money would revert directly to the U.S. Treasury.

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Until Congress grows some balls, brace yourselves for the hard times ahead.
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What would inhibit them from doing this? Getting exposed as being in bed with the banks? Could they then be impeached, or whatever it is you do to a sitting congressman?
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Surprised many are not aware of this. The debt limit has already been voted upon to be raised up to another 10 trillion.

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Stockman is a bitter old globalist NWO hack. He makes the rounds on major financial tv shows spewing this same garbage. We'll revisit this his thread in a month and see how wrong he was. He's an anti-Trumper, doing the bidding of the establishment elites, fuck off Stockman
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He said he voted for President Trump.
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Stockman is a bitter old globalist NWO hack. He makes the rounds on major financial tv shows spewing this same garbage. We'll revisit this his thread in a month and see how wrong he was. He's an anti-Trumper, doing the bidding of the establishment elites, fuck off Stockman
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He said he voted for President Trump.
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BULLLLLLLLLSH*T. crazy


Google/Bing this article..... (GLP doesn't like ZH links)

"Stockman: "What's Going On Today Is Complete Insanity"

He's no Trump supporter.


fact





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