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Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps?

 
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I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you:

They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really.

What are they waiting for?

Us.

All of us.

Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth.

And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times.

They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level.

This is for good people.


Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now...

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Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else.
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"in which case they just come back and start over as someone else."
Do you mean they watch and wait in the spirit realm then pounce on an embryo and hijack it like demon possession?
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"I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21 Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth? 22 And I have seen that there is nothing better than that the man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; because who will bring him in to look on what is going to be after him?" Ecc3:18
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Dimensionally heaven is inside you and looks just like earth. Are the rules different? Not exactly, there's just more spirits in the higher dimensions and demons in the lower dimensions.

Duality is a consciousness trap and the entities "above" you (even though they're not; they're locked into the programming so they're like robots most of the time) aren't there to help you (or hurt you) in the ways you think. That doesn't mean the demons won't attack you, it means the fact that they attack you is part of the programming. This means it's not dependent on what you do...it's unwarranted.
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Why would God bring the dead to heaven, is death a promotion to a better place?
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Of course! That's why it's often called our 'heavenly reward.'
Sure beats staying in the cold grave while the body is rotting away to dust.
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So what assignment do they receive?
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I don't know anything about assignments. That sort of sounds like a slave labor camp and not what heaven is.
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"I, even I, have said in my heart with regard to the sons of mankind that the [true] God is going to select them, that they may see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20 All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust. 21 Who is there knowing the spirit of the sons of mankind, whether it is ascending upward; and the spirit of the beast, whether it is descending downward to the earth? 22 And I have seen that there is nothing better than that the man should rejoice in his works, for that is his portion; because who will bring him in to look on what is going to be after him?" Ecc3:18
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Dimensionally heaven is inside you and looks just like earth. Are the rules different? Not exactly, there's just more spirits in the higher dimensions and demons in the lower dimensions.

Duality is a consciousness trap and the entities "above" you (even though they're not; they're locked into the programming so they're like robots most of the time) aren't there to help you (or hurt you) in the ways you think. That doesn't mean the demons won't attack you, it means the fact that they attack you is part of the programming. This means it's not dependent on what you do...it's unwarranted.
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"Dimensionally heaven is inside you"

I think I'm in a sub-dimension smaller than heaven, what ever that means.
BTW who's doing the programing?

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I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you:

They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really.

What are they waiting for?

Us.

All of us.

Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth.

And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times.

They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level.

This is for good people.


Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now...

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else.
 Quoting: South Central


I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place.
It's always the same...

I also believe some do get to come back to start over.

hf
'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke
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Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps?
Why would God bring the dead to heaven, is death a promotion to a better place?
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Better or worse depending on what line you walked on earth.

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 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


According to who? Who says the dead are alive?
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You never really die...

You just move to another dimension.

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Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps?
I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you:

They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really.

What are they waiting for?

Us.

All of us.

Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth.

And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times.

They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level.

This is for good people.


Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now...

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else.
 Quoting: South Central


I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place.
It's always the same...

I also believe some do get to come back to start over.

hf
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


What's the other place?
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Why would God bring the dead to heaven, is death a promotion to a better place?
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Flesh is in the ground, but the spirit returns to the Father/Source.
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so if you die to the flesh life, you arrive at judgement, and some are alive in the spirit of the Father(Truth)now.
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Beat the time(clock)to die to the flesh, before the angel of death comes.
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Why would God bring the dead to heaven, is death a promotion to a better place?
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Flesh is in the ground, but the spirit returns to the Father/Source.
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Do you mean at conception ribosomes construct a spirit creature simultaneously with an embryo, or the embryo is hijacked by a rogue roaming spirit being?
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I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you:

They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really.

What are they waiting for?

Us.

All of us.

Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth.

And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times.

They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level.

This is for good people.


Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now...

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else.
 Quoting: South Central


I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place.
It's always the same...

I also believe some do get to come back to start over.

hf
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


What's the other place?
 Quoting: DGN


The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke
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Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else.
 Quoting: South Central


I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place.
It's always the same...

I also believe some do get to come back to start over.

hf
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


What's the other place?
 Quoting: DGN


The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

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 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


How did you access the waiting area?
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I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place.
It's always the same...

I also believe some do get to come back to start over.

hf
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


What's the other place?
 Quoting: DGN


The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


How did you access the waiting area?
 Quoting: DGN


In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

--

Last Edited by Nameless the Deplorable on 03/06/2017 02:11 AM
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I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you:

They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really.

What are they waiting for?

Us.

All of us.

Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth.

And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times.

They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level.

This is for good people.


Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now...

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else.
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"in which case they just come back and start over as someone else."
Do you mean they watch and wait in the spirit realm then pounce on an embryo and hijack it like demon possession?
 Quoting: DGN


Babies are born with souls. Some of those souls have lived past lives but don't remember them. A few do though sometimes... as young children.

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What's the other place?
 Quoting: DGN


The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


How did you access the waiting area?
 Quoting: DGN


In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


It's very interesting, Nameless that we have learned the same things but from different life experiences. I've learned to communicate with the ones in heaven. The messages they give their loved ones are pretty amazing and way too off the wall to be telepathy or coincidence. I can barely even believe it myself. It's very surreal.

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They visit often.
When they do, they do something to let me know they are around.
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The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


How did you access the waiting area?
 Quoting: DGN


In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


It's very interesting, Nameless that we have learned the same things but from different life experiences. I've learned to communicate with the ones in heaven. The messages they give their loved ones are pretty amazing and way too off the wall to be telepathy or coincidence. I can barely even believe it myself. It's very surreal.
 Quoting: South Central


I would love to read your experiences. Maybe in another thread we can share openly with others.

You have a vibrant halo of goodness about you. hf
This is why God chose you to help others by being a bridge between dimensions.

People like me are chosen because we refused God and had to drown in the darkness just to seek out the light...and when we do...we find He was always there, waiting for us to take his hand.

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There's a really cool book called "Into the Light". A hospice doctor, John Lerma, wrote it about the phenomenal spiritual experiences of dying people. Some of it involved physical manifestations. It's an amazing book. Best to be read one chapter at a time to fully absorb the info. It's a very intense book.
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What's the other place?
 Quoting: DGN


The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


How did you access the waiting area?
 Quoting: DGN


In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


I go many 'places' in dreams, all figments of my own imagination nothing more.
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The Waiting Area...I already typed about it.

After that place...I don't know...not even they know...they all have to wait for us to join them.

And before you ask...Yes, Time is different there.

There are several dimensions we can shift through when we leave this one...The Waiting Area is one...the Chaos (Hell) is another.

I've only seen those two...but from what those that past to the Waiting Area have told me, the place after the Waiting Area is Heaven.

I guess we all get to find out soon enough what happens from there.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


How did you access the waiting area?
 Quoting: DGN


In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

--
 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


I go many 'places' in dreams, all figments of my own imagination nothing more.
 Quoting: DGN


No worries, you don't have to believe anything I typed...it's always been your choice.

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Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps?
Even the JW's are right on some issues. In this case, they are correct that the dead are actually dead until the Resurrection.
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Did god put them on hold? Do they get to listen to music while they wait?
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No, they are dead. They don't do anything. They will be resurrected in the future, but they are dead now.
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Since the physical body is disintegrated into regular soil over time, and you say there is no spirit separate from the body, doesn't that mean that God has to recreate everyone that died in order for them to live again?
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How did you access the waiting area?
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In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

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I go many 'places' in dreams, all figments of my own imagination nothing more.
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No worries, you don't have to believe anything I typed...it's always been your choice.

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The weird thing about my dreams is they're spontaneous and detailed way beyond the range of my imagination as if really there, and all my sensors indicated they are, but in a blink it all disappears. The only difference is the laws of physics don't apply. Bottom line is they're totally holographic, not to say real life might be the same, who can prove it either way but, they're not a doorway into a different dimension, just illusions.
We are not created immortal destined to a mythological 'afterlife', that's Satan's original lie unwittingly still be circulated to this day.
ow the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3 But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die.’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.” Ge3

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Even the JW's are right on some issues. In this case, they are correct that the dead are actually dead until the Resurrection.
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nope
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"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
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In very vivid dreams.

As for the Chaos/Hell dimension...I was fully awake.

I used to be an atheist before becoming very dark person who dabbled in darkness. (I am a believer in God now) I have seen things that others would never believe. One night, I woke up to a demon standing next to me. He was made of charcoal embers and the smell of smoke was overwhelming.

That was the first time I called out to God. And I had the strength to strike out against the thing next to me. He turned into ashes, but I had to go through a lot to rid myself of what I had opened.

That's just a small sample of my life. I know what I did to deserve my visions. I know God found me when I was in the shadows.

And now I see a lot more than other people.

It is what it is. So I try to help those that want help. I know you're mocking those that believe. I'd only advise you to think upon the reason you are questioning this at all.

This world is temporary...a short learning area. We decide where we go next.

The Hell/Chaos dimension is not a place I want to ever be in again.

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 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


I go many 'places' in dreams, all figments of my own imagination nothing more.
 Quoting: DGN


No worries, you don't have to believe anything I typed...it's always been your choice.

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 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


The weird thing about my dreams is they're spontaneous and detailed way beyond the range of my imagination as if really there, and all my sensors indicated they are, but in a blink it all disappears. The only difference is the laws of physics don't apply. Bottom line is they're totally holographic, not to say real life might be the same, who can prove it either way but, they're not a doorway into a different dimension, just illusions.
We are not created immortal destined to a mythological 'afterlife', that's Satan's original lie unwittingly still be circulated to this day.
ow the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3 But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die.’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.” Ge3

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I'm not lying. It isn't an illusion.
You are free to believe what you want.
God has shown me something different.

I trust God more than man.

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I go many 'places' in dreams, all figments of my own imagination nothing more.
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No worries, you don't have to believe anything I typed...it's always been your choice.

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 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


The weird thing about my dreams is they're spontaneous and detailed way beyond the range of my imagination as if really there, and all my sensors indicated they are, but in a blink it all disappears. The only difference is the laws of physics don't apply. Bottom line is they're totally holographic, not to say real life might be the same, who can prove it either way but, they're not a doorway into a different dimension, just illusions.
We are not created immortal destined to a mythological 'afterlife', that's Satan's original lie unwittingly still be circulated to this day.
ow the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3 But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die.’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.” Ge3

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 Quoting: DGN


I'm not lying. It isn't an illusion.
You are free to believe what you want.
God has shown me something different.

I trust God more than man.

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 Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable


Did Jesus say the dead are alive, immortal, in a different dimension? Is it better to trust the Teacher or dreams?

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Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps?
Expressing confusion hasn't worked for you yet

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So Fred, does this mean you don't like the question?
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Always hoping mom not watching when I have a tug.
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Always hoping mom not watching when I have a tug.
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So yes or no; can grandma and grandpa see me fapping to porn?


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