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Nameless the Deplorable  User ID: 8533752  United States03/14/2017 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? OP, Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable Why are you asking and what are you hoping to gain from this thread? Refuting the oldest trick in the book, the deception of immortality; " Now the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3 But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die.’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.” Ge3  Have you wondered if maybe this plane of existence is a sort of death and the next phases are life? -- Yeah... still toying with that, can't verify one way or the other, then again who can? Yeah, I don't know either...but I do know that they are indeed waiting for us in the next phase of our journey. What path we take after that is up to us in this 'school'. Maybe the ones in the Waiting Room are more alive than we are... -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/14/2017 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? ... Quoting: DGN Refuting the oldest trick in the book, the deception of immortality; " Now the serpent proved to be the most cautious of all the wild beasts of the field that Jehovah God had made. So it began to say to the woman: “Is it really so that God said YOU must not eat from every tree of the garden?” 2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3 But as for [eating] of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘YOU must not eat from it, no, YOU must not touch it that YOU do not die.’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day of YOUR eating from it YOUR eyes are bound to be opened and YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.” Ge3 Have you wondered if maybe this plane of existence is a sort of death and the next phases are life? -- Yeah... still toying with that, can't verify one way or the other, then again who can? Yeah, I don't know either...but I do know that they are indeed waiting for us in the next phase of our journey. What path we take after that is up to us in this 'school'. Maybe the ones in the Waiting Room are more alive than we are... -- I think the reason we die is because as sinners our gift of life expires until a second chance is granted by resurrection during the 1,000 reign., no one else offers anything else. The afterlife theories are great fun to invent and shape like Play Dough but zero proof is provided, like the opposite of evolution, from sheer total futility to adventures in eternity, going where no man has gone before. |
| Nameless the Deplorable User ID: 72361805 United States03/14/2017 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? ... Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable Have you wondered if maybe this plane of existence is a sort of death and the next phases are life? -- Yeah... still toying with that, can't verify one way or the other, then again who can? Yeah, I don't know either...but I do know that they are indeed waiting for us in the next phase of our journey. What path we take after that is up to us in this 'school'. Maybe the ones in the Waiting Room are more alive than we are... -- I think the reason we die is because as sinners our gift of life expires until a second chance is granted by resurrection during the 1,000 reign., no one else offers anything else. The afterlife theories are great fun to invent and shape like Play Dough but zero proof is provided, like the opposite of evolution, from sheer total futility to adventures in eternity, going where no man has gone before. 1,000 years in the Waiting Room...is not the same as the passing of time on earth. You wait...and it isn't in darkness...if you lived decently. Maybe you'll get to see, if God lets you, so you'll understand the next phase and find peace. Since you refuse to believe. It's a beautiful place...I can just imagine how beautiful the highest level of Heaven is. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/14/2017 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? ... Quoting: DGN Yeah... still toying with that, can't verify one way or the other, then again who can? Yeah, I don't know either...but I do know that they are indeed waiting for us in the next phase of our journey. What path we take after that is up to us in this 'school'. Maybe the ones in the Waiting Room are more alive than we are... -- I think the reason we die is because as sinners our gift of life expires until a second chance is granted by resurrection during the 1,000 reign., no one else offers anything else. The afterlife theories are great fun to invent and shape like Play Dough but zero proof is provided, like the opposite of evolution, from sheer total futility to adventures in eternity, going where no man has gone before. 1,000 years in the Waiting Room...is not the same as the passing of time on earth. You wait...and it isn't in darkness...if you lived decently. Maybe you'll get to see, if God lets you, so you'll understand the next phase and find peace. Since you refuse to believe. It's a beautiful place...I can just imagine how beautiful the highest level of Heaven is. --  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73416776 United States03/15/2017 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/15/2017 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? Very good questions; 1. Abraham; A metaphor, not literal or it would contradict other scriptures. ecc3;14 9:5 2. Jesus witnesses to spirits in prison", demons in Tartarus, not humans. "Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment" 2Pe2:4 3. Did Jesus tell the repent thief he is now chosen to serve as assistant king in heaven? 4. Lazarus story was also an illustration. I don't know about 'now', great question to research but probably yes. You really might want to jump in the Sunday Watchtower discussion and pose more questions they're very good, helps narrow down the focal point.. Last Edited by DGN on 03/15/2017 12:32 AM |
| Nameless the Deplorable User ID: 72361805 United States03/15/2017 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? Very good questions; 1. Abraham; A metaphor, not literal or it would contradict other scriptures. ecc3;14 9:5 2. Jesus witnesses to spirits in prison", demons in Tartarus, not humans. "Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment" 2Pe2:4 3. Did Jesus tell the repent thief he is now chosen to serve as assistant king in heaven? 4. Lazarus story was also an illustration. I don't know about 'now', great question to research but probably yes. You really might want to jump in the Sunday Watchtower discussion and pose more questions they're very good, helps narrow down the focal point.. Ah...so you are a JW. Makes sense now why you are so concerned. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/15/2017 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? Very good questions; 1. Abraham; A metaphor, not literal or it would contradict other scriptures. ecc3;14 9:5 2. Jesus witnesses to spirits in prison", demons in Tartarus, not humans. "Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment" 2Pe2:4 3. Did Jesus tell the repent thief he is now chosen to serve as assistant king in heaven? 4. Lazarus story was also an illustration. I don't know about 'now', great question to research but probably yes. You really might want to jump in the Sunday Watchtower discussion and pose more questions they're very good, helps narrow down the focal point.. Ah...so you are a JW. Makes sense now why you are so concerned. -- "That is also why we, from the day we heard [of it], have not ceased praying for YOU and asking that YOU may be filled with the accurate knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, 10 in order to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing [him] as YOU go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God, 11 being made powerful with all power to the extent of his glorious might so as to endure fully and be long-suffering with joy, 12 thanking the Father who rendered YOU suitable for YOUR participation in the inheritance of the holy ones in the light." Col1:9  Last Edited by DGN on 03/15/2017 02:48 PM |
| Nameless the Deplorable User ID: 8533752 United States03/15/2017 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73416776 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? Very good questions; 1. Abraham; A metaphor, not literal or it would contradict other scriptures. ecc3;14 9:5 2. Jesus witnesses to spirits in prison", demons in Tartarus, not humans. "Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment" 2Pe2:4 3. Did Jesus tell the repent thief he is now chosen to serve as assistant king in heaven? 4. Lazarus story was also an illustration. I don't know about 'now', great question to research but probably yes. You really might want to jump in the Sunday Watchtower discussion and pose more questions they're very good, helps narrow down the focal point.. Ah...so you are a JW. Makes sense now why you are so concerned. -- "That is also why we, from the day we heard [of it], have not ceased praying for YOU and asking that YOU may be filled with the accurate knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, 10 in order to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing [him] as YOU go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God, 11 being made powerful with all power to the extent of his glorious might so as to endure fully and be long-suffering with joy, 12 thanking the Father who rendered YOU suitable for YOUR participation in the inheritance of the holy ones in the light." Col1:9 No worries, I'm praying you see the light as well. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/15/2017 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? Here's the option list; "For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4 |
| strgzr User ID: 74485565 United States03/15/2017 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? Here's the option list; "For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4 Except that when I die I will be set free again. :) |
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| Sodbuster User ID: 68702751 United States03/16/2017 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? I haven't heard a good explanation for this question, Christ didn't say at judgement day, he said TODAY, not in 2000 years plus. Coal burning stove no natural gas, if that ain't country, I'll kiss your ass - David Allan Coe |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/16/2017 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? I haven't heard a good explanation for this question, Christ didn't say at judgement day, he said TODAY, not in 2000 years plus. Right and 'today' he didn't go to any paradise, he was dead for three days. |
| Nameless the Deplorable User ID: 72361805 United States03/16/2017 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? The bible is clear that no one is in heaven or hell until the judgement day. everyone is sleeping until that point in time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71944035 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? I haven't heard a good explanation for this question, Christ didn't say at judgement day, he said TODAY, not in 2000 years plus. Right and 'today' he didn't go to any paradise, he was dead for three days. The Harrowing of Hell. Remember? Jesus went to Hell and freed people. 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
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| DGN (OP) User ID: 74461818 United States03/16/2017 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73416776 It is? What does the Bible say about Abraham's Bosom / Paradise? Where did Jesus go when he died for 3 days? What did Jesus say to the repentant thief on the cross, did he say, Today, I tell you, or I tell you that today, you will be with me in Paradise. What is Paradise and the "gulf", is the Lazarus and brothers story really a Parable or now? Nobody is judge until the end, so are they really dead and "know nothing" or are they waiting on either side of the gulf? I haven't heard a good explanation for this question, Christ didn't say at judgement day, he said TODAY, not in 2000 years plus. Right and 'today' he didn't go to any paradise, he was dead for three days. The Harrowing of Hell. Remember? Jesus went to Hell and freed people. Uhhh.... noooo... I don't remember that please brief me. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74418836 United States03/16/2017 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? They can see us but we live in murk and in their frequency Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74203362 range they cannot see into it clearly, as we think we see each other. They are busy learning and teaching. Some in paradise, some in prison. One thing that is different there are the crowns. Everyone has a crown delineating their tribe, and level of progression. Also name, but in symbol, not letters as we know them. They are white and resemble ivory but are made of something else. Do they get to have sex? |
| strgzr User ID: 74487410 United States03/16/2017 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? They can see us but we live in murk and in their frequency Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74203362 range they cannot see into it clearly, as we think we see each other. They are busy learning and teaching. Some in paradise, some in prison. One thing that is different there are the crowns. Everyone has a crown delineating their tribe, and level of progression. Also name, but in symbol, not letters as we know them. They are white and resemble ivory but are made of something else. Do they get to have sex? edit sorry :( At least it wasn’t something that mattered that triggered me this time. Last Edited by C. corax on 03/16/2017 02:19 AM :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74418836 United States03/16/2017 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? They can see us but we live in murk and in their frequency Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74203362 range they cannot see into it clearly, as we think we see each other. They are busy learning and teaching. Some in paradise, some in prison. One thing that is different there are the crowns. Everyone has a crown delineating their tribe, and level of progression. Also name, but in symbol, not letters as we know them. They are white and resemble ivory but are made of something else. Do they get to have sex? Good GOD. Yes, we know that God is good, and that's great. But do the dead people get to have sex in heaven, hell, or wherever? |
| strgzr User ID: 74487410 United States03/16/2017 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? They can see us but we live in murk and in their frequency Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74203362 range they cannot see into it clearly, as we think we see each other. They are busy learning and teaching. Some in paradise, some in prison. One thing that is different there are the crowns. Everyone has a crown delineating their tribe, and level of progression. Also name, but in symbol, not letters as we know them. They are white and resemble ivory but are made of something else. Do they get to have sex? Good GOD. Yes, we know that God is good, and that's great. But do the dead people get to have sex in heaven, hell, or wherever? kids die every day, yada yada yada. Who cares? Do I get laid? :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73375209  Australia03/16/2017 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? They can see us but we live in murk and in their frequency Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74203362 range they cannot see into it clearly, as we think we see each other. They are busy learning and teaching. Some in paradise, some in prison. One thing that is different there are the crowns. Everyone has a crown delineating their tribe, and level of progression. Also name, but in symbol, not letters as we know them. They are white and resemble ivory but are made of something else. Do they get to have sex? Good GOD. Yes, we know that God is good, and that's great. But do the dead people get to have sex in heaven, hell, or wherever? Sad story Bro once ya dead ya dead its no big deal, dying the period between life and death is a real bitch. Hope your death is fast my friend. |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74491736 United States03/16/2017 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you: Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really. What are they waiting for? Us. All of us. Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth. And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times. They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level. This is for good people. Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now... -- Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else. I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place. It's always the same... I also believe some do get to come back to start over. I'm guessing you've never meet one? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74418836 United States03/16/2017 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? They can see us but we live in murk and in their frequency Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74203362 range they cannot see into it clearly, as we think we see each other. They are busy learning and teaching. Some in paradise, some in prison. One thing that is different there are the crowns. Everyone has a crown delineating their tribe, and level of progression. Also name, but in symbol, not letters as we know them. They are white and resemble ivory but are made of something else. Do they get to have sex? Good GOD. Yes, we know that God is good, and that's great. But do the dead people get to have sex in heaven, hell, or wherever? Does anyone know this answer? It really matters! |
| Nameless the Deplorable User ID: 8533752 United States03/16/2017 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? I know you won't believe me...but you asked, so I'll tell you: Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable They are waiting in a very nice place. Think of it as a giant hotel with a beautiful landscaped garden. It's perfect really. What are they waiting for? Us. All of us. Your loved ones have clocks on their walls...they represent each person they care about still on earth. And yes, they can watch us. Sometimes they can visit, especially in troubling times. They aren't really dead...they've only moved to the next level. This is for good people. Truly rotten people are a whole other story...I can tell you what that place is like if you'd like to know. I can also tell you that it's kinda empty right now... -- Exactly right, Nameles. I have seen proof so many times. It's always the same... except in the rare situation (about 5% or less) where someone feels completely short changed by their death and a new do-over life is more important than reuniting with their loved ones... in which case they just come back and start over as someone else. I've been there 3 times each time a new relative moved on from this place to the other place. It's always the same... I also believe some do get to come back to start over. I'm guessing you've never meet one? Actually, I have. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
| DGN (OP) User ID: 74491736 United States03/16/2017 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? Yes, we know that God is good, and that's great. But do the dead people get to have sex in heaven, hell, or wherever? Does anyone know this answer? It really matters! What is this a zombie question about the living? Last Edited by DGN on 03/16/2017 07:15 PM |
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| DGN (OP) User ID: 74491736 United States03/16/2017 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are the dead spying down on us from heaven or is that just a 'pass the plate' fairytale like angels playing harps? Jesus used the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. C!early the rich man was conscious and aware of his torment and Lazarus was conscious and aware of his joyful surroundings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48091609 Negates two JW doctrines: 1) asleep until the judgement 2) eternal punishment Like this? "Moreover, brothers, we do not want YOU to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that YOU may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope. 14 For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him. 15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord. 18 Consequently keep comforting one another with these words." 1Thes4:13 " |
