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Father of purportedly murdered toddler JonBenet Ramsey and father of alleged 'Columbine High School Massacre' shooter Eric Harris both knew each other.

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So it gets very interesting that toddler Jonbenet's father, John Bennet Ramsey of Boulder Colorado. owned Access Graphics, a software division of defense/ Air Force contractor Lockheed Martin, while a 40 minute drive away in Centennial, Colorado, shooter Eric's father Wayne Harris works for defense contractor Flight Safety Services [link to www.flightsafety.com (secure)]
which provides simulation software to the Air Force and is a contractor which in fact works closely with Lockheed Martin in developing its flight simulation technology. Both Access Graphics and Flight Safety Services created pilot training (flight simulation) software.
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John Bennett Ramsey -Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia John Bennett Ramsey Ramsey was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, to Mary Jane (née Bennett) and James Dudley "Jay" Ramsey.[1] His net worth was reported at $6.4 million as of May 1, 1996. He graduated from Michigan State University. A distinguished naval officer, he holds a pilot's license and owns two planes.[2] In 1989, late in his military career, he formed the Advanced Product Group, one of three companies that merged to become Access Graphics. After mandatory military retirement, he became president and chief executive officer of Access Graphics, a computer services company and a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin. [link to extras.den****ost.com] Eric David Harris was born on April 9, 1981, in Wichita, Kan., where his dad was working at the Boeing Military Airplane Co. Wayne Harris already was an officer and a heavily decorated pilot lauded for a cool hand during airborne refueling missions.In 1983, Wayne and Kathy and their sons, Kevin, then 5, and Eric, moved to Beavercreek, Ohio, where Harris flew for the 4952nd Test Squadron at Wright Air Force Base. Harris' flying "skill and leadership" helped in the testing of strategic missile and space systems, Air Force records show. He earned the meritorious service medal, four oak leaf clusters, two bronze service stars and an award for small arms marksmanship.In 1989, Wayne Harris, still flying KC-135 refueling tankers, was transferred to the Wurtsmith Air Force base in Oscoda, Mich.At the end of 1991 and Wayne Harris was transferred to the air base in Plattsburgh, N.Y. He served two years with the 380th Operations Support Squadron at the upstate base. In the fall of 1993 Wayne Harris moved to Littleton, Colorado, and took a job at Flight Safety Services in nearby Centennial, Colorado.
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Lockheed Martin began manufacturing spy satellites in the 1950s, and manufacturing them in the military base town surrounding Columbine High School: Littleton Colorado.

In other words the entire town was a Defense Dept. intel hub, from the coroner to the police chief to the investigating officers.
John Bennett Ramsey lived an hours drive away from there, and fake Columbine High School shooter Eric Harris and his father Wayne Harris lived right in Littleton. Both John Ramsey and Wayne Harris were affluent , and worked on flight simulation training software for Lockheed Martin.

How in the fuck is it 'just a coincidence' that two guys from essentially the same Lockheed Martin pilot training software division in a tiny town in the boonies of rural Colorado* both *had children of theirs die in MEDIA SPECTACULAR collectors edition CNN headliner stories like 'The JonBenet Child Actress Rape and Murder!!!!!!!!!!!' and the 'COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL MACHINE GUN MASSACRE!!!!!'
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Did you know that Dorothy in the wizard of Oz...had a daughter named Liza ..who married the tin mans son Jack?
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Cathy O'Brien also says John Ramsey was up at the base in the UP of Michigan with Robert Byrd while she was being programmed as a kid. The manifests do show his name, accessing the military base. Long before he married a 'Patsy', former beauty queen, who died of 'ovarian cancer'. You connect the dots.
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Abel Danger claims Jon Benet was killed because the father was going to be a whistleblower on surveillance. They made the mother write the ransom note afterwards and videotaped as a snuff film to scare others. Interesting idea.
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The amount of money in the JonBenet Ramsay ransom note is the same amount her father received as a bonus from Lockheed Martin.

The JonBenet Ramsey killing has ties to the 9/11 attacks.
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Great fucking fucking find!

Msm is truly fake news, if they were real they would have found this.
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Littleton ain't the boonies. It's denver Metro.
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JonBenet Ramsey murder and Columbine High School Massacre

they were both big CNN 'story of the week' hoaxes

gotta keep the public titillated and on edge about gun control and other issues, especially involving CHILDREN (gotta keep that mama grizzly demographic munching on the balls of Average Joe, and screaming for surveillance cams, 'safe spaces', virtually no males left in the primary school system, gun control, citiies lit up all night for satellite surveillance of your driveways etc.)

Columbine High School was the high school of the Lockheed Martin/USAF installation which surrounded it. How difficult would it be to pull a fake shooting hoax, when even the students are fooled and CNN is run by the spooks anyway? Send in your fake team, the local police are going to be part of the installation anyway. Its all intel. Tell me you are going to get on the Littleton Police Dept. unless you are intel vetted by the rest of the installation.





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Columbine High School shooter Eric Harris's father, Wayne Harris, worked for the Air Force military contractor firm Flight Safety Services,near Littleton Colorado, which has multiple million dollar contracts with the U.S. Air Force to train personnel , and provides flight simulation technology, for the use of training pilots, to the U.S. Air Force.

Quote:

"FlightSafety Services Corporation trains 10,000 to 14,000 student events annually and has been providing Aircrew Training Systems to the United States Air Force and its Air Reserve Forces since 1984. Our expertise in simulation technology coupled with a dedicated team of experienced instructors, technical staff, courseware developers, and simulator maintenance technicians support the delivery of quality military training."

So it gets very interesting that John Bennet Ramsey of Boulder Colorado owns Access Graphics, a software division of defense/ Air Force contractor Lockheed Martin, while a 40 minute drive away in Littleton, Colorado, purported Columbine High School Massacre shooter Eric Harris' father Wayne Harris works for defense contractor which provides simulation software to the Air Force and is a contractor which in fact works closely with Lockheed Martin in developing its flight simulation technology.

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this on JonBenet Ramsey's father:

John Bennett Ramsey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

John Bennett Ramsey

Ramsey was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, to Mary Jane (née Bennett) and James Dudley "Jay" Ramsey.[1] His net worth was reported at $6.4 million as of May 1, 1996. He graduated from Michigan State University.

A distinguished naval officer, he holds a pilot's license and owns two planes.[2] In 1989, late in his >military career, he formed the Advanced Product Group, one of three companies that merged to become Access Graphics. After mandatory military retirement, he became president and chief executive officer of Access Graphics, a computer services company and a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin.

and this on Littleton, Colorado and Lockheed Martin:

the area surrounding Columbine was tightly controlled by the military-industrial complex. This report notes the amount of control Lockheed Martin has over the town, and how it uses the area as a testing ground for “classified military projects”:

From the AP: In the 1950′s the Pentagon ordered construction of the nation’s first intercontinental missile factory in a secluded canyon here (Littleton, Colorado). The factory is now owned by Lockheed-Martin where more than 10,000 employees (Littleton Population: 35,000- 39,000) now build unmanned rockets and satellites for telecommunications and space exploration as well as CLASSIFIED MILITARY PROJECTS (emphasis mine). Also in Littleton – National Digital Television Center – the research arm of the tele-communications industry. 10,000 out of 39,000: you do the math of how powerful Lockheed is there.“ -Vladamar Valerian
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JonBenet Ramsey murder and Columbine High School Massacre

they were both big CNN 'story of the week' hoaxes

gotta keep the public titillated and on edge about gun control and other issues, especially involving CHILDREN (gotta keep that mama grizzly demographic munching on the balls of Average Joe, and screaming for surveillance cams, 'safe spaces', virtually no males left in the primary school system, gun control, citiies lit up all night for satellite surveillance of your driveways etc.)

Columbine High School was the high school of the Lockheed Martin/USAF installation which surrounded it. How difficult would it be to pull a fake shooting hoax, when even the students are fooled and CNN is run by the spooks anyway? Send in your fake team, the local police are going to be part of the installation anyway. Its all intel. Tell me you are going to get on the Littleton Police Dept. unless you are intel vetted by the rest of the installation.





The link to the map is banned.






Columbine High School shooter Eric Harris's father, Wayne Harris, worked for the Air Force military contractor firm Flight Safety Services,near Littleton Colorado, which has multiple million dollar contracts with the U.S. Air Force to train personnel , and provides flight simulation technology, for the use of training pilots, to the U.S. Air Force.

Quote:

"FlightSafety Services Corporation trains 10,000 to 14,000 student events annually and has been providing Aircrew Training Systems to the United States Air Force and its Air Reserve Forces since 1984. Our expertise in simulation technology coupled with a dedicated team of experienced instructors, technical staff, courseware developers, and simulator maintenance technicians support the delivery of quality military training."

So it gets very interesting that John Bennet Ramsey of Boulder Colorado owns Access Graphics, a software division of defense/ Air Force contractor Lockheed Martin, while a 40 minute drive away in Littleton, Colorado, purported Columbine High School Massacre shooter Eric Harris' father Wayne Harris works for defense contractor which provides simulation software to the Air Force and is a contractor which in fact works closely with Lockheed Martin in developing its flight simulation technology.

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this on JonBenet Ramsey's father:

John Bennett Ramsey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

John Bennett Ramsey

Ramsey was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, to Mary Jane (née Bennett) and James Dudley "Jay" Ramsey.[1] His net worth was reported at $6.4 million as of May 1, 1996. He graduated from Michigan State University.

A distinguished naval officer, he holds a pilot's license and owns two planes.[2] In 1989, late in his >military career, he formed the Advanced Product Group, one of three companies that merged to become Access Graphics. After mandatory military retirement, he became president and chief executive officer of Access Graphics, a computer services company and a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin.

and this on Littleton, Colorado and Lockheed Martin:

the area surrounding Columbine was tightly controlled by the military-industrial complex. This report notes the amount of control Lockheed Martin has over the town, and how it uses the area as a testing ground for “classified military projects”:

From the AP: In the 1950′s the Pentagon ordered construction of the nation’s first intercontinental missile factory in a secluded canyon here (Littleton, Colorado). The factory is now owned by Lockheed-Martin where more than 10,000 employees (Littleton Population: 35,000- 39,000) now build unmanned rockets and satellites for telecommunications and space exploration as well as CLASSIFIED MILITARY PROJECTS (emphasis mine). Also in Littleton – National Digital Television Center – the research arm of the tele-communications industry. 10,000 out of 39,000: you do the math of how powerful Lockheed is there.“ -Vladamar Valerian
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So the fathers of both JonBenet Ramsey and shooter Eric Harris were military officers and software designers, and both are directly linked to Lockheed Martin. They lived relatively close to each other, and in my opinion probably know each other

The entire town of Littleton, Colorado is little more than a glorified Lockheed Martin AFB suburb of Denver, where they develop and test LM military aircraft, train the pilots to fly them, and recruit USAF personnel. These media hoaxes were obviously staged by the same Lockheed Martin affiliated contractor team which originally handled Google's domestic satellite surveillance program 'Operation Keyhole' , at Google's first campus, on the Lockeed Martin portion of Moffett Federal Airfield. These are the same people who crafted the Manson hoax at the nearby Palo Alto/Family Farm haunts of Abigail Folger and her family. Google's spy satellites (google Maps, Google Street, Google Earth etc.) were built by Lockheed Martin in Littleton, Colorado, who also manufacture the rockets used to fly them into orbit.

this also fits the established pattern of military intelligence and defense engineers using their own children in fake murders/fake deaths/psychological operations. Recall that Manson girl Lynette Fromme's father was a rocketry ballistics/munitions expert for military contractor Douglas Aircraft, and recall that the founder of the Rolling Stones cult, Brian Jones, was the son of Lewis Jones, Bristol Aircraft subsidary Gloster Aircraft's brilliant military jet engineer , and recall that Frank Zappa was the son of Francis Zappa, an armor plating /metallurgist who wored the Naval PostGraduate School at Presidio Monterey AFB and was an aircraft design engineer at Lockheed Martin and Convair aircraft corporation. Madonna's father engineered armored vehicles weapons systems for Chrysler Defense, and Courtney Love's father worked as a spook at Googles original spy facilities at Lockheed Martin at Moffett Federal Airfield. The founder of the Esalen Institute was Dick Price (Esalen staffers played a large role in the Manson hoax and the Laurel Canyon/Monterey Pop Festival/Woodstock hippie hoax.) and Dick Price, well his father was Herman Price (anglicised from original Jewish name Herman Preuss), the production manager at Douglas Aircraft for the B-17 bomber. The more general military intelligence links to sundry other cults, hoaxes , intel asset rockers etc. are of course too numerous to mention here, from Sharon Tate to Jim Morrison to Cass Elliott to John Phillips and Scott McKenzie to Stewart Copeland and the list goes on and on and on.

Of course the most intriguing aspect of this is how closely linked to psychological operations the military aircraft contractors seem to be. Why are Douglas Aircraft, Bristol Aircraft, Lockheed Martin so high up in cointelpro and psychological operations?

Probably the simplest way of explaining this is that 'psychological warfare' means that the 'weapons' used in such warfare are as carefully planned, designed, manufactured , and implemented as any of the other weapons used by the military. So these psy-ops weapons are crafted by the same people who make missiles and guns and fighter jets.
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Littleton ain't the boonies. It's denver Metro.
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believe me , the average New Yorker , lets say , in Manhattan, Littleton Colorado is out in the boonies, even IF its a suburb of Denver. Its still a far-flung and specialized region , the entire area is completely dominated by Lockheed Martin, and the average Joe doesn't have a clue that Columbine, JonBenet, and Aurora all happened within an hours drive of each other , and that pretty well everything took place with Lockheed Martin people and places involved . see these pics:

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At least the fake news could have reported these FACTS and let the public decide on this case..they put certain things out there to determine fact or fiction only
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JonBenet was probably accidentally killed by her brother Burke who hit her over the head with a Maglite. Thread: Did Burke kill JonBenet?

The autopsy showed a massive head injury which would have proved fatal within a couple of hours of sustaining it. She was strangled while unconscious, either by Burke himself or by Patsy who then faked the crime scene and wrote the ransom note. No-one could have come in through the basement window because the cobwebs and pine needles were undisturbed.

This theory is outlined in exhaustive detail in Chief James Kolar's book Foreign Faction. He was the lead investigator on the case for many years and discloses new evidence that points directly at Burke: the marks from the train tracks (not stun gun burns) and the video interviews with him.

The fact that Ramsey and Harris knew each other because they worked for the same employer and experienced tragedy is sad but doesn't have much to help us with regards to pizzagate.

Thread: BURKE RAMSEY SUES CBS $750 MILLION FOR DOCUMENTARY !

Thread: Was Burke not John's son? Possible reason for DNA mismatch?
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I don't know if this is connected, other than they use children to get to the parents, but the Aurora, Colorado shooter's dad was supposedly ready to testify about LIBOR scandal. It seems I remember reading somewhere that they would spare his son death sentence for not testify.

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the Aurora shooting was another 'mass shooting CNN adventure cow story of the week' for all the feminist teacher's union slobs to run home and entertain themselves with

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The purported (fake) Columbine High School shootings and purported (fake) Aurora Century Theater shootings happened a thirty minute drive away from each other :

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and smack inside what is little more than a USAF aircraft training and testing region which also includes where lesbian Aquino and her Lockheed Martin psy-ops team staged the fake JonBenet toddler murder:

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Lockheed Martin keeps coming up.


Lockheed Martin Carlyle SITA Boeing



Wonderland coding: pilot - pilot simulation - shooting children - as in filming and shooting children - school



John - simulation software - pilot's licence


Wayne Harris - airforce officer and trains personel etc

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shooting John's daughter - making films



Wayne's son blamed for Columbine - despite one teacher saying she saw adult and not student shooter - other evidence I am unfamiliar with




In the world of chipping people - what happens is the person is inserted with a receiver like from a mobile phone - they can then be called and spoken to: the person assumes what they are hearing are their own thoughts so they can be indoctrinated - I guess you would need satellites for this tech to work well if you didn't have closer access etc


In this sense the operator managing the target is the pilot - the pilot of the plane - this is only one metaphor used - hence attacking the pilots is an attack against what pilots do - operate "vehicles".



We cannot know if John or Wayne were involved in this type of simulation work - this type of secret work or not; but if they were then the training described in the link might refer to this.


If then the people trained as pilots or crew were enticed into becoming operators and doing bad tings for which they became entrapped - held to account - then they may have sought vengeance - as is common in Wonderland - an attack on bad pilots - or an attack against pilots - which could refer to the trained operators could be diverted - by attacking actual trained pilots - which is all these guys John and Wayne may have been - but the assault goes back to Lockheed Martin - so the insinuation is that Lockheed Martin are in some way involved in running these type of ops.
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Abel Danger claims Jon Benet was killed because the father was going to be a whistleblower on surveillance. They made the mother write the ransom note afterwards and videotaped as a snuff film to scare others. Interesting idea.
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1. Abel Danger (AD) claims that Hillary Clinton's aides used Federal Bridge Certification Authority servers installed by SBA 8(a) companies to transmit images of the JonBenét Ramsey snuff-film murder on Christmas Day 1996 over mentor-patented communications devices in Zulu time.

2. AD claims that the snuff-film images were relayed over a Sun Microsystem wireless (US 5371794 A) device to former director of Lockheed Martin Lynne Cheney and were later archived on patented onion router (Tor) servers installed by 8(a) companies in the Pentagon's U.S. Navy Command Center and the Clinton's Whitehaven home in Washington, D.C.
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Jon Benet was a ritual killing. The parents of the Colombians shooters and John Ramsey are involved with the Deep state.

Able Danger is not disinformation. It is information too deep for most to understand. They have successfully linked all the information of "false flags"

They have also linked the Hull House in Chicago where orphans were farmed out to the Clinton's, & Valerie Jaret (Obama's top adviser) & Michelle "Obama"

If you want to go deep and be astonished at corruption, lies, deceit, money laundering, trafficking then start a thread called Chicago: Valerie Jarett, Michelle Robinson (Obama) Barry Soetero, Ex-mayor Richard Daley, current mayor & former obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, Reggie love, Donald young, Jeremiah wright and Obamas church "the down low club" hidden inside

Some of the above names were shot in cold blood at the end of 2007 when reporters were asking questions and vetting presidential candidates.

Their murders have not been solved
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This is interesting. I don't know how reliable the website is, but remember when John Ramsey was dating Natalie Holloway's mother? Did grief bring them together or something else? Did you also know John was married before Patsy and had 3 grown children, but his daughter died in a car wreck 5 years before Jon Benet. Strange. Maybe you guys are on to something.. [link to www.romper.com (secure)] Also after JonBenet's death, they reopened Elizabeth Ramsey's case but found no connection, but then they sealed the files. Things that make you go hmmm. [link to articles.chicagotribune.com]
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This is interesting. I don't know how reliable the website is, but remember when John Ramsey was dating Natalie Holloway's mother? Did grief bring them together or something else? Did you also know John was married before Patsy and had 3 grown children, but his daughter died in a car wreck 5 years before Jon Benet. Strange. Maybe you guys are on to something.. [link to www.romper.com (secure)] Also after JonBenet's death, they reopened Elizabeth Ramsey's case but found no connection, but then they sealed the files. Things that make you go hmmm. [link to articles.chicagotribune.com]
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John dating Natalie Holloway mom was eye brow raising. Speaking of Natalie Holloway, that was also a very weird disappearance: some great alternative scenarios out there, if you have time to research.
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Lockheed Martin keeps coming up.


Lockheed Martin Carlyle SITA Boeing



Wonderland coding: pilot - pilot simulation - shooting children - as in filming and shooting children - school



John - simulation software - pilot's licence


Wayne Harris - airforce officer and trains personel etc

[link to letsrollforums.com]



shooting John's daughter - making films



Wayne's son blamed for Columbine - despite one teacher saying she saw adult and not student shooter - other evidence I am unfamiliar with




In the world of chipping people - what happens is the person is inserted with a receiver like from a mobile phone - they can then be called and spoken to: the person assumes what they are hearing are their own thoughts so they can be indoctrinated - I guess you would need satellites for this tech to work well if you didn't have closer access etc


In this sense the operator managing the target is the pilot - the pilot of the plane - this is only one metaphor used - hence attacking the pilots is an attack against what pilots do - operate "vehicles".



We cannot know if John or Wayne were involved in this type of simulation work - this type of secret work or not; but if they were then the training described in the link might refer to this.


If then the people trained as pilots or crew were enticed into becoming operators and doing bad tings for which they became entrapped - held to account - then they may have sought vengeance - as is common in Wonderland - an attack on bad pilots - or an attack against pilots - which could refer to the trained operators could be diverted - by attacking actual trained pilots - which is all these guys John and Wayne may have been - but the assault goes back to Lockheed Martin - so the insinuation is that Lockheed Martin are in some way involved in running these type of ops.
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You see on the film Sully Miracle on the Hudson - what is happening there is the pilot is landing all his crew safely - which is a parallel - perhaps pilots responded to intel at the time - and decided to "land their passengers safely on the water" - which I believe to be the case as do others in the intelligence units who know about this stuff.


I realise this is too huge for some people to comprehend.


One suggestion is that the operatives were encouraged to make money by - shooting children in the film and or/ sexual sense - using the remote means available to them - then when they were caught and angry - and it was time to shoot the pilot - they re-directed their anger at Lockheed martin - their entrapper... ???? Unless that is a parallel.
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Wow - and not thrown out in voir dire... amazing...
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Wow - and not thrown out in voir dire... amazing...
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