Latter Rain, which is the FIRE BAPTISM!

JOEL 2:27-32
VERSE 28 And it shall come to pass afterward,that i will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;and you sons and you daughters shall prophesy,your old men shall dream dream visions,your young men shall see open visions;(its already happening)...31 the sun shall be turned to darkness(sunspot?)and the moon into blood,before the great an terrible day of the lord.....

Fire Baptism MUST be SATAN's ritual baptism to get into HELL~~~ MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

JOEL 3:9-16
VERSE 13 Put ye in the sickle,for the harvest is ripe;come,get you down;for the press is full,the vats overflow;for their wickedness is great.multitudes,multitudes in the valley of decision;for the day of th elord is near in the valley of decision....

get over it your wrong.its in the spirit an flesh.look!the reason you havent been filled with the holy ghost is because you havent asked god for it.you have not because you have asked not.people who have been filled dont care about your miinsterpreatations of god word.go an ask god to fill you an he will.if not,keep acting like a pharisee.

sad,very sad.

this gives me an opportunity to warn about our FOUL MOUTHS. That profane talking is BAD for our SOULS!! Way bad. Every time we talk like that, it is exactly the same as cursing our own souls.

Best thing to do, again, is to ASK GOD to help you with your thought life, so He can teach you to hear His Voice and help you come out from under the influence of the carnal mind. It is the carnal mind that tempts us to use foul language.

And it wont do you any good to try to use your own will to stop swearing and cursing, because your carnal mind will trick you into something else and stop tempting you to curse - it is that insidious. No, the only way to cleanse ourselves of any unGodliness is to ASK GOD to help us with our thought life and allow Him to teach us how to hear His Voice. Once you can hear God's voice, and choose to learn from Him, He will guide you into what needs cleaning up, and teach you WHY, then you will UNDERSTAND, and you will agree, it is that agreement that unleashes His POWER to help you overcome the unGodly temptation. So, that, in the end, it is simply your FAITH and AGREEMENT with God's WORD (that you HEAR FROM HIM YOURSELF), and then GOD does all the work to clean you up. That way, you can only boast about... GOD. YOU KNOW GOD did it. That way God gets the glory, and other people will look at you, and say we want God too, if He can do what He did with you, I need help with stuff too.

Thats the way we were supposed to spread the gospel of the truth. teach people that they CAN hear God's VOICE for themselves, and that HE will teach them, HIMSELF.

The carnal mind deceives people into using foul language to distract the speaker from the truth before him, and to curse his soul. But you can not make a rule for yourself that you will not curse. Instead let God teach you. The carnal mind is sophisticated enough to even trick people into thinking that they are saved. The carnal mind can become a 'religious spirit' in people in order to keep them in bondage to its antichrist ways. In the case of a religious spirit, the carnal mind uses laws, and rules to control the person into thinking that if he abides by these rules then he is accepted by God. NO! He is not. He must OBEY God's voice, not the carnal mind's voice.

sadly, many many christians are in bondage to their carnal minds and are completely unaware of it. You can tell, when they attack revealed word from someone who listens to God's voice. That is why the prophets are attacked so much in today's world, and we are left with false prophets who only tell us what we want to hear. The piercing truth in the revealed word from a prophet, sears the carnal mind in the listener, and the carnal mind will do anything to keep the person from hearing the truth. So, the carnal mind becomes a religious spirit and tells the person that it is not the truth because of this scripture, and because of that doctrine, etc etc. rules. laws. traditions of men. whatever it takes to keep the person in bondage to the religious spirit. Only God can break this bondage - the person HAS to ask God to teach them to hear HIS VOICE (same solution for all human beings).

HAGGAI 2:9 THE GLORY OF THE LATTER HOUSE SHALL BE GREATER THAN OF THE FORMER,SAITH THE LORD;AND IN THIS PLACE WILL I GIVE PEACE,SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS.

I think i enjoyed your posts in the lamb cafe once . . . .
Is this so? Just wonderin'

MATHEW 5:blessed are ye when men shall revile you,and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake.rejoice an be exceedingly glad;for great is your reward in heaven;for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

You see, everything you people think, will be brang, to nothing, by the simple fact, of the SECONDCOMING, since HE is here, on earth, the way will not be by faith, in a diety, but, thru ONE MAN, here on eath

Hitler was reborn

John 15:16-27
verse 18 If the world hates you,you know that it hated me before it hated you.if ye were of the world,the world would love his own;but because you are not of the world,but i have chosen you out of the world,therefore the world hates you.

yeah, i'm right, I did.......
it's cool.
don't be afraid of who you are and where you've been . . .

ok look im gonna go an dig up all the scriptures that teach you must be born again ok!havent you heard them an read them since your so smart mr pharisee!?you must be born again an filled with the holy ghost what dont you get about that huh?

who are you talking to?me or ME lol

JOHN 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him,Verily,Verily,I say unto you,except a man be born again he cannont see the kingdom of heaven.(what dont you understand about that?)

I would partially disagree with you on this Me114. The procees of steps you imply are reliant on the actions of man. In other words, I get the impression that initial justification is a work of God, but sanctification is a process that depends upon man's reactions, and glorification is also displayed in mankind as if mankind is actually glorified because they passed the sanctification step.

Where we differ is in what glorification truly means..

I consider that when we are glorified it is solely because Christ is in us, and more specifically it is actually God who is glorified in us and not us who are glorified in God. Do you see the difference?

God is glorified in us because of what Christ has done.

Not

We are glorified in God because we have passed the sanctification step and met approval for the next step of glorification.


John 13
31 So, when he had gone out, Jesus said, “Now the Son of Man is glorified, and God is glorified in Him.

32 If God is glorified in Him, God will also glorify Him in Himself, and glorify Him immediately.

Romans 8
29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

To be predestined is to be called, and those who are called are justified, sanctified, and glorified. Glorification is spoken as already having transpired in those who are called.

John 3:27 A amn can recieve nothing except it be given him from heaven.
John 4:13-24 14 but whosoever drinketh of the water(living water of the holy spirit flowing through there belly)that i shall give him shall never thirst;but the water that i shall give them shall be in him a well of living water(the holy spirit)springing up into everlasting life(if you wanna live forever in heaven you better ask god to fill you with his living water an his holy ghost in jesus name.period.)

hitler worshiped satan dummy

John 4:10 Jesus said to her,if thou knewest the gift of God(his holy spirit)and who it is that saith to thee,Give me to drink;thou wouldest have asked of him,and he would have given thee living water(the holy ghost.but you have not because you have asked not.But this woman was smart because this was her answer.)verse 15 The woman saith unto him,Sir,give me this water,that I thirst not,neither come hither to draw.jesus said unto her,go,call thy husband,and come hither....then jesus prophesied to her and she percieved he was a prophet...read verse 29-42 for the rest of it.then it goes on to say in verse 48 Jesus said,Except ye see signs an wonders,ye will not believe.(and when you do see,your faith goes to fact an it doesnt matter what false doctrines anybody trys to tell you.)

yep. many false pastors and church organizations will fall - but God will raise up the true church - the local community church

Your talking spiritually, something, that you feel inside, that makes you feel better, I'm saying, literally, reborn, blood and water, this is my flesh and blood, take and eat, the SEED, is the SECOND COMING, where we will be made in the likness of HIM, GOD, or the SON OF GOD, the bible start's over again the book of JOHN, GEN. all over again, with the WORD OF GOD= THE SECOND COMING, unless of course, your a JW. who don't believe in the SECOND COMING, only spritually, not in the FLESH, whenever, there's a problem, with religous belief's, it's always a spiritual belief, never literally, in the FLESH, actually this is the spirit, of the antichrist, not believing in the FLESH, the SECOND COMING

if you were filled with the spirit there would be love in yer words

do you ask the Holy Spirit if your post is all set before you click [post] ?

yes, I got banned, and never told why

pish we are the church an our body is the temple.read john 16:2 to see what Jesus thought of your church an tradtions of men.the local church today thinks if somebody gets filled with the holy ghost an talks in tongues like in the book of acts that they are demonic that how backwards the church is.

thanks. I have a new forum of my own

[link to overcomers.informe.com]

God does all of it. Man only believes by faith, and obeys God's voice (ie man obeys by his own free will (same as repent))

its all done by God by His Grace

I missed replying to this last part. Yes, the chosen, are all set.

now lets love the whosoever will let him come, and tell them the good news, which is they can have the same blessings.

are you talking about Jesus coming IN OUR FLESH? If so, then AMEN!

gersh...a latter form of gosh...which is a latter form of something but i don't remember what.