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Ryan fired from running healthcare, Rand Paul hired.

 
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POTUS: "I feel sure that my friend @RandPaul will come along with the new and great health care program because he knows Obamacare is a disaster!"
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We're from the government and we're here to help.
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Simple repeal it all first under reconciliation.. which is

their last and only chance to repeal it.


Then build the replacement
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Yes, THIS^^
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And here it is.

The inevitable has happened.

The nastiness of the 2016 primaries has faded, and now President Trump is ready to work with Rand Paul. This also creates a natural link to Dr. Ron Paul.

Let the fun begin!
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03/08/2017 07:49 AM
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If you get healthcare through your workplace, it already comes out of your pay check! Its been that way forever, the reason most people agree to it when the sign on as salary or hourly, is because you get a cheaper rate negotiated this way.

So the government mandating it comes out of your check is nothing new, the only change would be if your workplace did not offer health insurance, and the government took it out instead
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Oh, I see. We just need to bend over further and become more like the Queen wants us to be and do EVERYTHING like the British.

Sure, Ok.
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03/08/2017 07:52 AM
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Bottom line, the American people voted for President Trump because he said he'd REPEAL the ACA.

REPEAL

Ryan is surely playing games. The replacement is worse than the original.
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03/08/2017 07:54 AM
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How can you idiots not read obvious sarcasm?
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03/08/2017 08:22 AM
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i still think if they required transparent pricing it would drive the cost down. there is a reason why the dentist, optometrist, podiatrist and chiropractor are affordable. they can tell you what things cost up front.

the hospital and your doctor should be required to have the same thing. instead they overbill the insurance company, then its a shell game of price negotiations between insurance and doctors/hospitals.

call your local hospital and ask how much an x-ray is they will have no clue

then call 3 chiropractors and eye doctors and ask how much an adjustment/exam will be. you get your price quotes
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03/08/2017 08:28 AM
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what is weird is they want to do it in 3 phases.

Instead of under reconciliation.


Rinos are very good at playing this fake Game.


They pass the parts they want to get rid of then comes

phase 2 and 3 and they say, oh sorry America it didn't pass.
 Quoting: jake


Large projects in the business world are often done in phases, it is great to see our president apply this practice to government.
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03/08/2017 08:29 AM
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Good thread, check POTUS twitter, looks like TRUMP is taking Rand very seriously. Great news!
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one can only hope
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Last night bolling on the five broke down why this plan is just plain terrible. It was the best we saw all day.
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He's having dinner tonight with Senator and Mrs. Cruz, per the buzz on the street.

If he ends up with Rand and Ted and Mike Lee running things with this REPEAL and replace then we're in good shape.
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Rand is shining on this one! You are right randy keep it up
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Bah. I initially read the headline and then the tweet thinking that Rand was going to have a say.

Now after reading just the tweet, it looks like DJT is trying to rein in Rand. Not too happy about that.
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Why can't I shake the feeling that there is a RINO triumvirate of

Ryan, McCain, and Graham?

Why does my skin start crawling at the mere thought of any of them?

Is each of them secretly Pelosi in drag?
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03/08/2017 09:15 AM
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Bah. I initially read the headline and then the tweet thinking that Rand was going to have a say.

Now after reading just the tweet, it looks like DJT is trying to rein in Rand. Not too happy about that.
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There is no difference, when it comes down to it. Rand has the power to deny it, and he should use that to get his bill voted on.
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"Clean Repel" then 2 1/2 years squabbling over "new" Health Care package. Same as "letting it collapse", which is what Trump wanted in the first place. I say, send it all back to the "States", with the exception of Vet's, Disabled & Elderly (Soc Sec) - Let each state figure out how they will manage Health Care- Worked well for years prior to Hillary's Health Care HBO plans with Bill Clinton.
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"Clean Repel" then 2 1/2 years squabbling over "new" Health Care package. Same as "letting it collapse", which is what Trump wanted in the first place. I say, send it all back to the "States", with the exception of Vet's, Disabled & Elderly (Soc Sec) - Let each state figure out how they will manage Health Care- Worked well for years prior to Hillary's Health Care HBO plans with Bill Clinton.
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Sounds good to me.
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Why can't I shake the feeling that there is a RINO triumvirate of

Ryan, McCain, and Graham?

Why does my skin start crawling at the mere thought of any of them?

Is each of them secretly Pelosi in drag?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73811700


It's not a feeling. It IS a triumvirate. They'll come crashing down soon. Trump can only do so much at a time. But he's handing out their rope too.

My current mantras:
Patience is a virtue.
Good things come to those who wait.
Noah is STILL on the ark.
God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
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03/08/2017 11:01 AM
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Perhaps when the technology that has been withheld from us comes out everything will change.
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03/08/2017 11:23 AM
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when he started spewing crap about no price controls, thats when the world knew the fix was in...who bribed these pukes, the insurance companies or the doctors and hospitals or both?
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I miss my insurance before Obamafail. I could take my kids to the doctor when they were sick AND still eat.
I don't call this health insurance, I call it my second life insurance policy so I don't lose my house when I get sick. I don't see how Ryan's proposal changes this.

Each state should figure out their health care laws. Social Security has already been promised to seniors and disabled. Veterans care has been promised to veterans. The poor have been promised health care by Obamafail. You just can't take away what you have promised. But to make everyone else cover the promises the government made is just wrong. This administration will be hated like the last one if they don't get rid of this burden on the people.

Americans want health care we can afford. We want to be able to see our doctors when we're sick and not lose our homes. We don't mind adding a little to our premiums so the poor can have coverage but we do mind when the poor can go to the doctors because they can get free health care and we have to choose between healthcare and eating. I don't see how Ryan's plan changes any of this. Maybe he needs to sell it better because this is not the change I voted for.
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"Clean Repel" then 2 1/2 years squabbling over "new" Health Care package. Same as "letting it collapse", which is what Trump wanted in the first place. I say, send it all back to the "States", with the exception of Vet's, Disabled & Elderly (Soc Sec) - Let each state figure out how they will manage Health Care- Worked well for years prior to Hillary's Health Care HBO plans with Bill Clinton.
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Sounds good to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72574786


no way, states and municipalities are way worse than the feds on this front..ffs its very likely that the real reason this is being made out to be a "national" problem in the first place is because of the state and local unions are dead broke for simply attempting to provide benefits for a tiny fraction of the population, something some of us told all of you was impossible from the start
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about time TRUMP realized Rand is the Man. Ryan is probably involved in the hitlery/ obama sedition and treason plot to take TRUMP down.
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Republicans have no excuse.

They have the House.

They have the Senate.

Now they have a kick-ass POTUS.

What more do they want? GET THE JOB DONE!
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In the Akwaaba
The children is sing
Songs of a land
Far, far away
Where love is plentiful
And food is grow
Where there is no pain
Because of paracetamol
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rockon
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Roses are red, violets are blue....I smoked some good weed..how bout you...duuude
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03/08/2017 06:13 PM
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It still amazes me that 95% of you don't realise Trump was being sarcastic. I'm starting to think GLPers are dumber than the average bear.
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what is weird is they want to do it in 3 phases.

Instead of under reconciliation.


Rinos are very good at playing this fake Game.


They pass the parts they want to get rid of then comes

phase 2 and 3 and they say, oh sorry America it didn't pass.
 Quoting: jake



The Republicans are going to pass legislation against Big Pharma and the Insurance industry?
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Great! Now fire him from congress.


flush
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Rand Paul is only one who knows what we want.
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Do you know what you want?

You can't have non-mandatory healthcare and people not being covered at the same time.

Also if you give young and healthy people the option to opt out of health insurance then you have very expensive health insurance for the rest.

Someone will always be bitching.





GLP