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Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."

 
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SEEMS LIKE ENOUGH TO GET THE BALL ROLLING IN REGARDS TO THE MANY ODD FACTS SURROUNDING THE 2012 INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AT SANDY HOOK ELEMENTARY CONNETICUT
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I said facts, not speculation.
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So you don't think the evidence of people acting alone isn't enough ? Is that what you are saying ?

That's kind of hard because it looks like the whole thing was an act.
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There is no evidence of people acting, that is just opinion.

If you want to prove that there were actors used, find out their real names, who hired them.

Can you do that?
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Posting photos of people you think look like the parents aren't facts either, just more opinion.
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
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And how does a heart monitor save lives? How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
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64 missing pages of the FBI report tells me there's more to hide here than the response of NPD or CSP
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
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And how does a heart monitor save lives? How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
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The heart monitor was to check if the kids could be saved. Only two could have been the rest were declared dead
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


And how does a heart monitor save lives? How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
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The heart monitor was to check if the kids could be saved. Only two could have been the rest were declared dead
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How were they determined to be dead without checking for signs of life with something like a heart monitor?
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Btw…even Noah had signs of having an ekg used on him…so there's that.
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Also btw…neither of the two children that were taken out had a heart monitor used on them. They were both clearly alive.
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
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bearnado

If I was to believe this tall tale....I would say...So it really does not matter that the road was blocked then.....right?
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
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:bearnado:

If I was to believe this tall tale....I would say...So it really does not matter that the road was blocked then.....right?
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hesright
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


And how does a heart monitor save lives? How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


The heart monitor was to check if the kids could be saved. Only two could have been the rest were declared dead
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


How were they determined to be dead without checking for signs of life with something like a heart monitor?
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The heart monitor was brought in, they were checked. No signs of life, they were declared dead. Not hard to understand.
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
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:bearnado:

If I was to believe this tall tale....I would say...So it really does not matter that the road was blocked then.....right?
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The two kids who were not declared dead were taken to the ambulances, had more been alive they would been taken too
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What kind of care could they possibly have provided?

Were they carrying any life saving equipment?
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A heart monitor was brought in, to determine signs of life.

Based on the report, only two of the children were still living and they were taken out and put in ambulances. The others were declared dead on scene, which is legal in Connecticut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


bearnado

If I was to believe this tall tale....I would say...So it really does not matter that the road was blocked then.....right?
 Quoting: Deplorable Dudeashaneo


The two kids who were not declared dead were taken to the ambulances, had more been alive they would been taken too
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Oh I forgot...by the handy dandy heart monitor. No EMT should be without it! I can see it now. " shit Bob! We got a bunch of shot up kids and teachers here...what do we do? Call an ambulance?
" Nah! First go out to the car and get a heart monitor. I think the road is pretty clogged so its best to make sure we really can save them"

Keystone cops or purposeful?
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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And how does a heart monitor save lives? How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


The heart monitor was to check if the kids could be saved. Only two could have been the rest were declared dead
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


How were they determined to be dead without checking for signs of life with something like a heart monitor?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


The heart monitor was brought in, they were checked. No signs of life, they were declared dead. Not hard to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


And again…

How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
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Three of the first responding cops were also EMT's, another cop was a registered nurse, so they were getting immediate care.
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And don't forget Nurse Sally Cox who hid in the closet for four hours. So you really believe this cock and bull story?
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She doesn't really factor in since she his in a closet for hours and decided not to apply her trade. And her eyewitness statement changed from "meeting the gunman eye to eye" to "seeing his shoes".
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See...it was a drill.

Apply that to this story and it all makes sense.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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And how does a heart monitor save lives? How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


The heart monitor was to check if the kids could be saved. Only two could have been the rest were declared dead
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


How were they determined to be dead without checking for signs of life with something like a heart monitor?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


The heart monitor was brought in, they were checked. No signs of life, they were declared dead. Not hard to understand.
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Unless you factor in what time they were allowed in to start assessments...
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It always takes a few years for them to get their lies/stories straight. 9/11 shilling didnt start till years after too.
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The heart monitor was to check if the kids could be saved. Only two could have been the rest were declared dead
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


How were they determined to be dead without checking for signs of life with something like a heart monitor?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


The heart monitor was brought in, they were checked. No signs of life, they were declared dead. Not hard to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


And again…

How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
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They could not allow paramedics in the school until it was secured. The entire school had to be checked for other shooters. During the time they were checked, the heart monitor was used. By the time the school was cleared, it was too late.

There is no chance any paramedic would be allowed to enter an active shooter scene until it is all declared safe. Had there been other shooters, the lives of the medics would have been endangered and there would have been even more victims.
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Only two of 1st responding cops were EMT's not three. But other medics were brought in:

Among the law enforcement first responders, there were two EMTs (CSP Sgt William Cario and TFC Patrick Dragon), and one Registered Nurse (CSP Sgt. William Blumenthal). Six and a half minutes after his arrival at the school, and after the shooter’s body and those of his victims were found, Sgt. Cario switched to a medic role, put on gloves and performed the first patient assessments. Approximately 11 minutes later, Sgt. Cario escorted three tactical and highly-trained paramedics into the school to perform four additional rounds of patient assessment and triage, including the use of heart monitors.

Paramedic and Director of Danbury Hospital EMS Matthew Cassavechia, tactical Paramedic and Danbury EMS supervisor John Reed, and Paramedic and Assistant Fire Chief Bernie Meehan were the three triage officers. The legal presumptions of death were made by this team, using the SMART Triage System protocols. Cassavechia operated as the senior medical person on scene and maintained phone contact with Danbury Hospital Medical Control Physician Dr. Pat Broderick, under whose medical authority the paramedics operated.
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How were they determined to be dead without checking for signs of life with something like a heart monitor?
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The heart monitor was brought in, they were checked. No signs of life, they were declared dead. Not hard to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397


And again…

How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


They could not allow paramedics in the school until it was secured. The entire school had to be checked for other shooters. During the time they were checked, the heart monitor was used. By the time the school was cleared, it was too late.

There is no chance any paramedic would be allowed to enter an active shooter scene until it is all declared safe. Had there been other shooters, the lives of the medics would have been endangered and there would have been even more victims.
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Cool story bro.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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Cool and true, until proven otherwise
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The heart monitor was brought in, they were checked. No signs of life, they were declared dead. Not hard to understand.
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And again…

How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


They could not allow paramedics in the school until it was secured. The entire school had to be checked for other shooters. During the time they were checked, the heart monitor was used. By the time the school was cleared, it was too late.

There is no chance any paramedic would be allowed to enter an active shooter scene until it is all declared safe. Had there been other shooters, the lives of the medics would have been endangered and there would have been even more victims.
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Cool story bro.
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No shit. If a cop had the time to check 20 individual children with a heart monitor there was clearly no threat.
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And again…

How many kids could have died while they take the time to apply a heart monitor to 20 kids one at a time…instead of allowing in paramedics?

And…if a cop had the time and ability to apply a heart monitor to 20 individuals clearly it was safe enough to allow in emts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74374614


They could not allow paramedics in the school until it was secured. The entire school had to be checked for other shooters. During the time they were checked, the heart monitor was used. By the time the school was cleared, it was too late.

There is no chance any paramedic would be allowed to enter an active shooter scene until it is all declared safe. Had there been other shooters, the lives of the medics would have been endangered and there would have been even more victims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56943397




Cool story bro.
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No shit. If a cop had the time to check 20 individual children with a heart monitor there was clearly no threat.
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Thing is it truly is a story....by the way I agree with you.

Everything is based off of witness statements which have no legal standing and the official report is a collection of essentially hearsay.

We dont have to prove anything because we were never provided proof either.


Your little heart monitor story is just a story. Just like the blocked roads.

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But you have nothing yet to refute it, until you do no reason not to believe it.

BTW, there was more than one heart monitor. Other medics were escorted in by a cop. While other cops were still clearing the school
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You guys seem to want the ambulances to have been there at the school along with the cops to go in, that's not how things work. Had medics gone it right way and there had been another shooter it would have been an even worse situation.
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Oh please.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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Oh please.
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So you wanted the ambulances there right away and the medics going in with the 1st officers at the scene?
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Oh please.
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So you wanted the ambulances there right away and the medics going in with the 1st officers at the scene?
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You are the one saying it did not matter that the ambulances could not make it through the chaos.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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Oh please.
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So you wanted the ambulances there right away and the medics going in with the 1st officers at the scene?
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You are the one saying it did not matter that the ambulances could not make it through the chaos.
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It didn't

Here is what you can do. You and everyone else can do. Gather up copies of all your evidence and go to CT and meet with Reich and his attorney. Expose the hoax. If you can.

If you'e not willing to show the evidence that you have, then it shows you really do not have any.


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