Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds." | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/10/2017 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Per THE SCRIPT CSP Lt. David DelVecchia, Director, Western District Major Crime, Connecticut State Police, lead investigator on the Sandy Hook case: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73835688 "After the incident occurred, chaos continued; there was limited parking space as well as limited driving space. This proved to be very problematic; ambulances and patrol cars could not exit or enter the school grounds. People traffic was also an issue. Every agency that could respond, did. A lot of time was lost to identification and verification of people (parents, fire departments, police, police dressed in civilian clothing with weapons) arriving to the scene." (Sandy Hook, Lessons Learned, June 16, 2014) Are you a parrot zeph? long live page 7. Sheila is not forgotten...... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61030714 United States 03/10/2017 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of DelVecchia's presentations was 3 1/2 hours long. That's a LOT of detail. We already have a fellow cop on record, in print, quoting DelVecchia's statement NOT just that roads were congested, but that ambulances could not enter the school grounds. In case after case, the major issues with the emergency response which we have been pointing out for almost four years are proving out. I will remember how, in the very first few months, a shillathon erupted here over whether EMTs entered the school, and Robert Riversong was sent here to yell that "ambulances didn't enter because the scene wasn't safe." Riversong is now contradicted directly, and literally, by the police official who ran the investigation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/10/2017 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of DelVecchia's SCRIPTED presentations was 3 1/2 hours long. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61030714 That's a LOT of SCRIPTED detail. We already have a fellow cop on record, in SCRIPTED print, quoting DelVecchia's statement NOT just that roads were congested, but that ambulances could not enter the school grounds. In case after case, the major issues with the emergency response which we have been pointing out for almost four years are proving out. I will remember how, in the very first few months, a shillathon erupted here over whether EMTs entered the school, and Robert Riversong was sent here to yell that "ambulances didn't enter because the scene wasn't safe." Riversong is now contradicted directly, and literally, by the police official who ran the investigation. There "fixed it" for you. And by the way Korean dude was a by design distracting douche and so were and are you..... all bullshit regarding this EMT protocol. The only thing Korean dude did of value was expose his connection to the alphabet agencies...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74404668 United States 03/10/2017 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope--Robert Shillversong had convincing arguments, and many passersby no doubt bought his explanation (the only one he could possibly grasp at): "The scene was too dangerous." Lawyers for Newtown and the state knew that most of the American public would buy the "Ambulances came but weren't needed," whereas people who knew somewhat better (and actually were thinking a bit) would dig deeper. Shillversong was paid to be here for those readers (accompanied of course by a throng of low-wage bot-ists screaming obscenities/aliens/"you terrible people hurting the families", etc.) BUT - because his explanation is a cover story for the actual truth, it was imperfect. Cover stories never work in the end; the truth always outs. Once people who gave a damn ran the numbers--the timing of everything, using a combination of sources such as radio transmissions and officer statements--the truth became obvious. Granted, that took place over time and with a LOT of effort. But we got there. Ambulances DIDN'T come, and they WERE needed. By the time they got there, the ingress/egress was blocked. It's really, really too bad PLG vaporized the most important early threads; clearly lawyers felt something was said in them that needed to be retracted. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/10/2017 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope--Robert Shillversong had convincing arguments, and many passersby no doubt bought his explanation (the only one he could possibly grasp at): "The scene was too dangerous." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74404668 Lawyers for Newtown and the state knew that most of the American public would buy the "Ambulances came but weren't needed," whereas people who knew somewhat better (and actually were thinking a bit) would dig deeper. Shillversong was paid to be here for those readers (accompanied of course by a throng of low-wage bot-ists screaming obscenities/aliens/"you terrible people hurting the families", etc.) BUT - because his explanation is a cover story for the actual truth, it was imperfect. Cover stories never work in the end; the truth always outs. Once people who gave a damn ran the numbers--the timing of everything, using a combination of sources such as radio transmissions and officer statements--the truth became obvious. Granted, that took place over time and with a LOT of effort. But we got there. Ambulances DIDN'T come, and they WERE needed. By the time they got there, the ingress/egress was blocked. It's really, really too bad PLG vaporized the most important early threads; clearly lawyers felt something was said in them that needed to be retracted. You really are a shill aren't you???? there's no "lawyers" involved LOL! The korean dude didn't disclose any relevance about the EMT protocol, he disclosed an "oops" to his "agency" affiliation with Sheila. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74404668 United States 03/10/2017 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there's no "lawyers" involved LOL! The korean dude didn't disclose any relevance about the EMT protocol, he disclosed an "oops" to his "agency" affiliation with Sheila. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46921680 Oh heavens, lol, there are scads of lawyers involved. Somewhere, in fact, in both Newtown's and the state of Connecticut's budgets, are the very line items within which the PR firm fees are hidden. You can check out the PR firms yourself (of course you probably work for one ;) and see exactly how they bill their services for this online shilling thing. Some are subtly-worded and use corporate speak to hide what they do; others just come right out and say "we're experts in steering public opinion," lol. Though the Sandy Hook topic is a grim one, it is to my great satisfaction that I personally have continued to ensure that the entities covering up Sandy Hook continue to have to spend money to do so. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74404668 United States 03/10/2017 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And that will be a good day. For her, for me, for everyone who believes in justice, and for the lives that may be saved when America realizes that the Sandy Hook emergency response is one of the greatest political coverups in recent American domestic history. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74148305 United States 03/10/2017 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a very expensive drill, years in planning, that was intel/law enforcement/media-packaged as a real event. The thing was pickled in disinformation algorithms, making virtually everything that occurred, real or imagined, unprovable. Highly paid experts can do these things -- it's not a profession for fundamentally honest or ethical human beings, but we have govie agencies with these kinds of people as well as DoD subcontractors who will do anything for the money. Manufacturing public opinion is big business. It has nothing to do with what people actually think and believe. There are many reasons why something like this would be undertaken. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64587239 United States 03/10/2017 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a very expensive drill, years in planning, that was intel/law enforcement/media-packaged as a real event. The thing was pickled in disinformation algorithms, making virtually everything that occurred, real or imagined, unprovable. Highly paid experts can do these things -- it's not a profession for fundamentally honest or ethical human beings, but we have govie agencies with these kinds of people as well as DoD subcontractors who will do anything for the money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74148305 Manufacturing public opinion is big business. It has nothing to do with what people actually think and believe. There are many reasons why something like this would be undertaken. Not even remotely that complicated. It had stages, to be sure: I. Locals screw up and 20 children die II. State insisted on taking over scene, not realize they'd end up being blamed for the children's deaths (to this day NPD and CSP aren't speaking). III. Feds agree to remain silent on the mess, since a "5 minute slaughter by a mentally ill man" has much better shock value, for a gun grab, than "nearly all children could have lived despite being shot by guns." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/10/2017 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a very expensive drill, years in planning, that was intel/law enforcement/media-packaged as a real event. The thing was pickled in disinformation algorithms, making virtually everything that occurred, real or imagined, unprovable. Highly paid experts can do these things -- it's not a profession for fundamentally honest or ethical human beings, but we have govie agencies with these kinds of people as well as DoD subcontractors who will do anything for the money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74148305 Manufacturing public opinion is big business. It has nothing to do with what people actually think and believe. There are many reasons why something like this would be undertaken. Not even remotely that complicated. It had stages, to be sure: I. Locals screw up and 20 children die II. State insisted on taking over scene, not realize they'd end up being blamed for the children's deaths (to this day NPD and CSP aren't speaking). III. Feds agree to remain silent on the mess, since a "5 minute slaughter by a mentally ill man" has much better shock value, for a gun grab, than "nearly all children could have lived despite being shot by guns." That's right, not complicated at all what that AC says. Now what you're talking about zeph is complicated for sure. And makes absolutely no sense. And you keep parroting your nonsense, for what reason?! Do you really believe any "logical" person can not see through your bullshit deceipt??? Seriously. Get a new job....... We don't buy your shit, never did and never will. Long live page 7 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64587239 United States 03/10/2017 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shills needn't buy anything. But I know for fact that fellow researchers, journalists, paramedics, and more are using the info. Little by little, Sedensky's redactathon won't matter. In fact, over all, the redactions HELPED shine a light on sensitive aspects of the case. It's like a big red light flashing "nothing to see here." And then when he puts that light in the exact same point in time across multiple records, good God, you know? Had he had more time, he could have been less glaring with it all (for example realizing that if he was going to take a SECOND pass at redacting the dashcams, this time for audio content instead of visual, he should have used the same font so it wouldn't be so obvious that there were two purposes for dascham redactions). Anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/10/2017 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shills needn't buy anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64587239 But I know for fact that fellow researchers, journalists, paramedics, and more are using the info. Little by little, Sedensky's redactathon won't matter. In fact, over all, the redactions HELPED shine a light on sensitive aspects of the case. It's like a big red light flashing "nothing to see here." And then when he puts that light in the exact same point in time across multiple records, good God, you know? Had he had more time, he could have been less glaring with it all (for example realizing that if he was going to take a SECOND pass at redacting the dashcams, this time for audio content instead of visual, he should have used the same font so it wouldn't be so obvious that there were two purposes for dascham redactions). Anyway. So you're still stuck in stupid? You really believe that a bumbling Barney Fife character screwed up and everyone else followed suit and allowed the remaining living children to bleed out? Is this what you believe? And that the town of Newtown and the State of Corrupticut is in on this?? Is this what you believe? And you're calling who a "shill"? |
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Deplorable Dudeashaneo User ID: 72522421 United States 03/10/2017 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope--Robert Shillversong had convincing arguments, and many passersby no doubt bought his explanation (the only one he could possibly grasp at): "The scene was too dangerous." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74404668 Lawyers for Newtown and the state knew that most of the American public would buy the "Ambulances came but weren't needed," whereas people who knew somewhat better (and actually were thinking a bit) would dig deeper. Shillversong was paid to be here for those readers (accompanied of course by a throng of low-wage bot-ists screaming obscenities/aliens/"you terrible people hurting the families", etc.) BUT - because his explanation is a cover story for the actual truth, it was imperfect. Cover stories never work in the end; the truth always outs. Once people who gave a damn ran the numbers--the timing of everything, using a combination of sources such as radio transmissions and officer statements--the truth became obvious. Granted, that took place over time and with a LOT of effort. But we got there. Ambulances DIDN'T come, and they WERE needed. By the time they got there, the ingress/egress was blocked. It's really, really too bad PLG vaporized the most important early threads; clearly lawyers felt something was said in them that needed to be retracted. Riversong's argument exposed the weakest part of the Urban Legend. His antics were sort of a " doth protest too much" reaction to those questioning the event. For those of us who saw a drill embellished...the antics of the "authorities" was the tell of the entire event. Of all the calamities in the world...name one official story that is so.....Urban Legendy....heh Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61030714 United States 03/11/2017 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shills needn't buy anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64587239 But I know for fact that fellow researchers, journalists, paramedics, and more are using the info. Little by little, Sedensky's redactathon won't matter. In fact, over all, the redactions HELPED shine a light on sensitive aspects of the case. It's like a big red light flashing "nothing to see here." And then when he puts that light in the exact same point in time across multiple records, good God, you know? Had he had more time, he could have been less glaring with it all (for example realizing that if he was going to take a SECOND pass at redacting the dashcams, this time for audio content instead of visual, he should have used the same font so it wouldn't be so obvious that there were two purposes for dascham redactions). Anyway. So you're still stuck in stupid? You really believe that a bumbling Barney Fife character screwed up and everyone else followed suit and allowed the remaining living children to bleed out? Is this what you believe? And that the town of Newtown and the State of Corrupticut is in on this?? Is this what you believe? And you're calling who a "shill"? NPD shot a child, thinking it was the perp. Then they realized they had shot a child, and it wasn't a perp. There is no "in" on it. There is only frantic CYA. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/11/2017 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shills needn't buy anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64587239 But I know for fact that fellow researchers, journalists, paramedics, and more are using the info. Little by little, Sedensky's redactathon won't matter. In fact, over all, the redactions HELPED shine a light on sensitive aspects of the case. It's like a big red light flashing "nothing to see here." And then when he puts that light in the exact same point in time across multiple records, good God, you know? Had he had more time, he could have been less glaring with it all (for example realizing that if he was going to take a SECOND pass at redacting the dashcams, this time for audio content instead of visual, he should have used the same font so it wouldn't be so obvious that there were two purposes for dascham redactions). Anyway. So you're still stuck in stupid? You really believe that a bumbling Barney Fife character screwed up and everyone else followed suit and allowed the remaining living children to bleed out? Is this what you believe? And that the town of Newtown and the State of Corrupticut is in on this?? Is this what you believe? And you're calling who a "shill"? NPD shot a child, thinking it was the perp. Then they realized they had shot a child, and it wasn't a perp. There is no "in" on it. There is only frantic CYA. That's still Barney Fife/ keystone cop bullshit. Makes no sense. No one would do such a thing. Especially trained law enforcement. They don't let others bleed out because of an "oops". There's other ways to hide that "oops" if need be. Believe it they would know how to hide it to cya - if need be.....without losing additional lives. Your scenario is not believable to start with and besides with all the supporting evidence with lack of evidence of carnage and the lackadaisical attitude is too much evidence showing an intentional staged event. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74420819 United States 03/11/2017 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shills needn't buy anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64587239 But I know for fact that fellow researchers, journalists, paramedics, and more are using the info. Little by little, Sedensky's redactathon won't matter. In fact, over all, the redactions HELPED shine a light on sensitive aspects of the case. It's like a big red light flashing "nothing to see here." And then when he puts that light in the exact same point in time across multiple records, good God, you know? Had he had more time, he could have been less glaring with it all (for example realizing that if he was going to take a SECOND pass at redacting the dashcams, this time for audio content instead of visual, he should have used the same font so it wouldn't be so obvious that there were two purposes for dascham redactions). Anyway. So you're still stuck in stupid? You really believe that a bumbling Barney Fife character screwed up and everyone else followed suit and allowed the remaining living children to bleed out? Is this what you believe? And that the town of Newtown and the State of Corrupticut is in on this?? Is this what you believe? And you're calling who a "shill"? NPD shot a child, thinking it was the perp. Then they realized they had shot a child, and it wasn't a perp. There is no "in" on it. There is only frantic CYA. That's still Barney Fife/ keystone cop bullshit. Makes no sense. No one would do such a thing. Especially trained law enforcement. They don't let others bleed out because of an "oops". There's other ways to hide that "oops" if need be. Believe it they would know how to hide it to cya - if need be.....without losing additional lives. Your scenario is not believable to start with and besides with all the supporting evidence with lack of evidence of carnage and the lackadaisical attitude is too much evidence showing an intentional staged event. Police are REQUIRED by active shooter protocol to leave bleeding victims untouched IF the threat has not been suppressed. See the writing on that wall? |
Deplorable Dudeashaneo User ID: 24320000 United States 03/11/2017 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46921680 So you're still stuck in stupid? You really believe that a bumbling Barney Fife character screwed up and everyone else followed suit and allowed the remaining living children to bleed out? Is this what you believe? And that the town of Newtown and the State of Corrupticut is in on this?? Is this what you believe? And you're calling who a "shill"? NPD shot a child, thinking it was the perp. Then they realized they had shot a child, and it wasn't a perp. There is no "in" on it. There is only frantic CYA. That's still Barney Fife/ keystone cop bullshit. Makes no sense. No one would do such a thing. Especially trained law enforcement. They don't let others bleed out because of an "oops". There's other ways to hide that "oops" if need be. Believe it they would know how to hide it to cya - if need be.....without losing additional lives. Your scenario is not believable to start with and besides with all the supporting evidence with lack of evidence of carnage and the lackadaisical attitude is too much evidence showing an intentional staged event. Police are REQUIRED by active shooter protocol to leave bleeding victims untouched IF the threat has not been suppressed. See the writing on that wall? Nope. Nobody knew anyone was shot and nobody could identify the supposed assailant. If we base everything on " phone recordings " and witness statements nothing of any consequence took place. Urban Legend kids. It was one big story. Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here? |
NO SECRETS User ID: 74425261 Canada 03/11/2017 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember: Adam died on the 13th. oops! Sally Cox hide in the closet for 4 hours. But she did get a good look at the shooter. "Everyone must check in". You only have to check in when it's a drill. No outsiders are allowed otherwise. The road to the school was blocked but that's ok because it was a drill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72442074 United States 03/11/2017 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope--Robert Shillversong had convincing arguments, and many passersby no doubt bought his explanation (the only one he could possibly grasp at): "The scene was too dangerous." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74404668 Lawyers for Newtown and the state knew that most of the American public would buy the "Ambulances came but weren't needed," whereas people who knew somewhat better (and actually were thinking a bit) would dig deeper. Shillversong was paid to be here for those readers (accompanied of course by a throng of low-wage bot-ists screaming obscenities/aliens/"you terrible people hurting the families", etc.) BUT - because his explanation is a cover story for the actual truth, it was imperfect. Cover stories never work in the end; the truth always outs. Once people who gave a damn ran the numbers--the timing of everything, using a combination of sources such as radio transmissions and officer statements--the truth became obvious. Granted, that took place over time and with a LOT of effort. But we got there. Ambulances DIDN'T come, and they WERE needed. By the time they got there, the ingress/egress was blocked. It's really, really too bad PLG vaporized the most important early threads; clearly lawyers felt something was said in them that needed to be retracted. Go stuff that propaganda shit where it doesn't shine. You are wasting your time trying to convince ANYONE here with half-a-brain that Shady Hook was anything but a gov't-approved take-your-guns drill. If you want to get a list of the hundreds of anomalies that prove it was a drill, look on your own time. But don't you dare try to brainwash anyone else who might be too lazy too actually check your lies... What a pathetic loser. And guess what? ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT IN THE NEXT 4 YEARS. You think the American public will be happy that a bunch of fascist gun-haters traumatized the sheep? Better find a good hiding place... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46921680 United States 03/11/2017 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember: Quoting: NO SECRETS 74425261 No one "official" came out and said it wasn't a hoax. They threatened Truthers. They called us every name in the book but they won't say it wasn't a hoax. Not officially. That's a great point! Fake news has rules too. Just like the fiat system we live in. The corporate world in which everyone participates in yet believes that they are flesh and blood. When the system treats us just as a corporation, without us even understanding the "rules" that we are under, they continue to dominate us under these rules whether we understand or not. |
Deplorable Dudeashaneo User ID: 72522421 United States 03/11/2017 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember: Quoting: NO SECRETS 74425261 No one "official" came out and said it wasn't a hoax. They threatened Truthers. They called us every name in the book but they won't say it wasn't a hoax. Not officially. Good point. They really can't get into an argument or defend the validity of their story. That is why they use the "families" as a shield. They willingly put them out there to pull attention away from the event. The awards that were given out were to cement the narrative. How does Bob Nute spill the beans when he accepted an award for his bravery? The hundreds of 911 calls an hour his team handled...that never happened. Its all really obvious. Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64933603 United States 03/11/2017 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | does the OP still get paid for making those conspiracy stories go round and round? Or are the children old enough now to go on youtube and act the part of the living and go around as one of us after the satanists ruined another christian land? |
X1811 User ID: 73316485 United States 03/11/2017 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides the abundance of clear evidence it was a False Flag, want to know you can confirm that? Every time the fake news attacks real alt news, they always start with the talking point: "the same site with conspiracy theorists (cue exaggerated smugness) who think Sandy Hook wasn't real and was a secret government plan to take their guns." :FF alert: :Helping: :CT Def: Last Edited by X1811 on 03/11/2017 10:50 PM All characters and events in this forum --even those based on real people-- are entirely fictional. All celebrity comments are impersonated...poorly. The above post contains coarse language and due to the content it should not be viewed by anyone. |