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Is There Any Event Delaying The Rapture?

 
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1Thessalonians 4:17
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17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
911 & 923 Foretell of things incoming.
Yeshua is coming. The signs are all around us.
"those who have insight will provide understanding to the many." [Dan.11:33]
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The rapture occurs when the full number have come in. It's number specific not date or event specific.
Somewhere out there -- probably alive right now -- is the last person who will be saved as the dispensation of the fullness of times rapidly approaches.
I believe on the outside we have around 12 years.
However, the rapture remains, as always since Christ's ascension, imminent.
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3 Resurrections. 2nd one is the Main Harvest (Prinsloo).
911 & 923 Foretell of things incoming.
Yeshua is coming. The signs are all around us.
"those who have insight will provide understanding to the many." [Dan.11:33]
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There's the same amount of evidence for "jesus" as the toothfairy, santa, zeus, posideon, the kraken, and leprichauns.
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Nonsense.

You refuse to examine the evidence.
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Everything I've seen and heard is not evidence. Just baseless assertions that require "faith". Well, I'm built such that I cannot accept an assertion without evidence. If that makes me evil, how come I was "created" that way? You think it's fun? It's not. It sucks. I wish I could just declare that I believe and have that be true, but that's just not the case. I'm not a liar, so I will not make said declaration until i can believe it. I don't think "god" would want me to be dishonest about it. I think he would rather I was honest about my skepticism, while living to learn what is ACTUALLY true, and worth "believing.
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Evidence That Demands a Verdict

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The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus


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Both are excellent apologetics resources
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2000+ years - still waiting...

100 generations of mankind waiting around to say "I was right!!! I'm better than you!!! I told you so!!!!!!!"

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That's not how any of this works, kiddo.

Christians want you to be saved, too. Why do you think so many Christians willingly come on this site, knowing in advance that they are preaching to the unwilling and hostile? For every Christian post, there are at least five malignant replies.

Forever is a long time, and we want you to dance in the light of creation outside of time.
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gaslampblinkerrose That was very nicely said.
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Mankind:
I don't think anyone is going to get out of experiencing the results of what they've created here. Man was given stewardship over the earth and men trashed it. Now men will have to see and experience what they did like an adult. It's time to grow up and face the consequences of your choices. You don't get to destroy the room you live in then just walk away when it displeases you.
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as far as i know the pre-tribulation 'rapture' isn't biblical.
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You don't know.

Know:


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Here is a counter video to dispensationalism.


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Irvin Baxter has a great site on Christianity and subjects on the Bible.
Link:

[link to www.endtime.com (secure)]

I don't want to get too into it here, but, there is an event in the Bible but WE call the RAPTURE. But that word is not in the Bible, that's the word we used to describe the event.

Another thing too is it will not occur BEFORE the tribulation. We are going through it too. Sorry.

It occurs after, let's just say the 'vetting' process of either following the worldly worshipers and obtaining the mark of the beast which is a very controversial subject, or accepting Christ and standing against evil in this world.


I've invested many hours trying to find any information on this but just like there are many issues of how a 'mark' will be used to signify that you are a worldly unbeliever, it's not possible to make a calculation on how it will be done though. Too many possibilities.

Also, it states, "not until the last gentile is saved" which means there is a certain number of individuals God has taken account of----and there is only that last one that needs to come into the fold that will trigger another event.

So many thing's have to happen, it's not possible to pinpoint exactly when it will take place but.....it is possible to make a timeline of events and what has been fulfilled already.

If you're interested, there are web sites to search through. Some are false, so you have to be careful. Pray for discernment and search.

This is just what I've gathered on my search for the truth here on earth so far. Good Luck whomever finds this useful. God Bless and keep you all safe too!
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The catching away is just the process of the first resurrection. First the Dead meet with the Lord and then the Living.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


It does not go Dead in Christ, Living in Christ and then once again Dead in Christ. It goes Dead in Christ and then Living in Christ.

Here is another place where this all takes place.

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.


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The fact that there is no such thing as a rapture is what is 'delaying' it.
It's not in the bible.
It was made up by failed Anglican priest Nelson Darby in the 1800s.
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If I've understood correctly the Lord is coming again for all those of us who love Him before the end of April on First-fruits. This will either be on the 12th, 14th or 26th of April 2017. Depending on whether the Lord is using the Hebrew, Torah or Creator's Calendar to mark time . In 17 AD, a Jubilee Year, the Lord was crucified, died and descended into the heart of the earth to set the captives free who were held there in Abraham's bosom. He then returned them, after His glorious resurrection on First-fruits, to their own possessions and families in heaven. "Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land. And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return [we now know this was on First-fruits] to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family."[words in bracket mine][Lev.25:9.10]

A similar thing is about to happen again in 2017, a Jubilee Year! We've been in captivity all our live to the corruption of our natural bodies. And now the Lord Jesus Christ is getting ready to come for us in April on First-fruits, to give us our glorified bodies and return us to our own possessions and families in heaven. "...our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself." [Phil.3:20,21]

It's clear now that the Lord intended for 40 Jubilees to pass before coming back again for us in the Rapture! 2017 is 40 Jubilees from 17 AD. We now know that 34 BC was a Jubilee Year. When we count 1 Jubilee of 50 Years, from 33 BC, we arrive at the next Jubilee Year 17 AD. There's no Year 0. The Lord was 16 Years old in 1 AD, and started His public Ministry in 15 AD, when He was 30 Years old. The Lord conquered sin and death in a Jubilee Year in 17 AD. From 17 AD, when we count off 30 Jubilees, we arrive at the Year 1517. From 1517, when we count 8 Jubilees we arrive at the Year 1917. From 1917, when we count 1 Jubilee we arrive at the Year 1967. And finally, from 1967, when we count 1 Jubilee we arrive at the Year 2017. This is the Year, I believe, the Lord is going set us free from the bondage of corruption!
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The fact that there is no such thing as a rapture is what is 'delaying' it.
It's not in the bible.
It was made up by failed Anglican priest Nelson Darby in the 1800s.
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It is ironic the word rapture is derived from the Greek word harpazo in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and the passage before 4:17 shows that there is no rapture in the way the rapture defenders define the so called rapture event to be.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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YES. It is called REALITY.
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fixbike After the Rapture.

kitty This video reminds me of a dream I had a few years ago where there was a giant spaceship similar to what was in the movie Independence Day. In fact it was more of a giant stage set, high up in the atmosphere and I was stood there laughing my head off at the comical scene. Large chunks of it kept falling off and drifting down to earth and traditional type devils with wings and tails ending in a spear point would dive down, grab the pieces and take them back up again.

The point is that immediately after the Rapture the entire earth, along with all of you who are left behind, will be left under the control of the evil one. There is still a chance that even at this late date you can still turn to the Lord and become one of the Tribulation Saints. But it will cost you your life and much suffering.

This world will be Satan's Kingdom, for a season, and he will want every single one of you to join him and his legions of devils in Hell. For over a hundred years now they have been spinning and planting the seeds of a cunning deception to explain away the Rapture, all with the aim of capturing your soul and getting you to take the mark of the Beast. [link to youtu.be (secure)]

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


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The fact that there is no such thing as a rapture is what is 'delaying' it.
It's not in the bible.
It was made up by failed Anglican priest Nelson Darby in the 1800s.
 Quoting: GrumpyOldLady


This is simply not true.

Does the truth matter to you?

Any actual investigation of the subject will quickly show otherwise, but somebody told you this or you read this and you have accepted it without question, challenge or investigation because it supports what you already believe or do not believe, and the truth of the matter does not matter to you.

That's what is fascinating to me about this. Those who insist the Rapture is not true, but never investigate the case otherwise, when their basic assumptions are so easily shown to be false, but they do not care. They just perpetuate the lie...
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fixbike After the Rapture.

kitty This video reminds me of a dream I had a few years ago where there was a giant spaceship similar to what was in the movie Independence Day. In fact it was more of a giant stage set, high up in the atmosphere and I was stood there laughing my head off at the comical scene. Large chunks of it kept falling off and drifting down to earth and traditional type devils with wings and tails ending in a spear point would dive down, grab the pieces and take them back up again.

The point is that immediately after the Rapture the entire earth, along with all of you who are left behind, will be left under the control of the evil one. There is still a chance that even at this late date you can still turn to the Lord and become one of the Tribulation Saints. But it will cost you your life and much suffering.

This world will be Satan's Kingdom, for a season, and he will want every single one of you to join him and his legions of devils in Hell. For over a hundred years now they have been spinning and planting the seeds of a cunning deception to explain away the Rapture, all with the aim of capturing your soul and getting you to take the mark of the Beast. [link to youtu.be (secure)]

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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The fact that there is no such thing as a rapture is what is 'delaying' it.
It's not in the bible.
It was made up by failed Anglican priest Nelson Darby in the 1800s.
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This is simply not true.

Does the truth matter to you?

Any actual investigation of the subject will quickly show otherwise, but somebody told you this or you read this and you have accepted it without question, challenge or investigation because it supports what you already believe or do not believe, and the truth of the matter does not matter to you.

That's what is fascinating to me about this. Those who insist the Rapture is not true, but never investigate the case otherwise, when their basic assumptions are so easily shown to be false, but they do not care. They just perpetuate the lie...
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We can and will disagree about meanings and timings of various verses

but there is absolutely no legitimate and honest reason to claim, believe or repeat that Darby or anyone made the Rapture up in the 1800s

when a dozen authors who believed and discussed the Rapture since the 1st century can easily be shown to rebut this false accusation

and they can be found by any simple willingness to actually investigate the subject.

There is no excuse and it is quite clear that the Truth of the matter is not what is important to some, but denying it is foremost,

for whatever their reason, whether it be ignorant or deliberate.
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There is no Rapture.

There is only Retards Who Believe in The Rapture.

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There is no Rapture.

There is only Retards Who Believe in The Rapture.

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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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There is no Rapture.

There is only Retards Who Believe in The Rapture.

/thread
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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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A brilliant and loving teacher who was put upon with the myths of previous Christs (Virgin Birth, Resurrection, 12 Disciples, etc...). All the "Messiahs" that came before Jesus were also born on "Christmas".

Christians don't even know that they worship The Sun, not The Son of God.

Y'all should read a Real History Book sometime.
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There is no Rapture.

There is only Retards Who Believe in The Rapture.

/thread
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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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A brilliant and loving teacher who was put upon with the myths of previous Christs (Virgin Birth, Resurrection, 12 Disciples, etc...). All the "Messiahs" that came before Jesus were also born on "Christmas".

Christians don't even know that they worship The Sun, not The Son of God.

Y'all should read a Real History Book sometime.
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I am a Christian as in follower of Christ. I believe what the bible says. Not what men or women teach and their pagan religious ideas or festivals.
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When everyone is stupid enough to believe in the Rapture, it could happen.
Just don't make anything up.
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There is no Rapture.

There is only Retards Who Believe in The Rapture.

/thread
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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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A brilliant and loving teacher who was put upon with the myths of previous Christs (Virgin Birth, Resurrection, 12 Disciples, etc...). All the "Messiahs" that came before Jesus were also born on "Christmas".

Christians don't even know that they worship The Sun, not The Son of God.

Y'all should read a Real History Book sometime.
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I am a Christian as in follower of Christ. I believe what the bible says. Not what men or women teach and their pagan religious ideas or festivals.
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Following His Teachings is Good.

Believing The Myth is Not.
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Besides the fact it's all make believe? Nah.
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ask Jesus when you see him, and you will see him.
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Come back to reality..there is no such person fool.
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What is a rapture? Is it happening already?

For me, it means a great burden released. It is a splendid joy that transcends what you previously believed to be possible...

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Part of the bird family.
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Learn to search, yourself.
Still ignorant I see
The rapture is not make believe you satanic fool.


All red from this thread and that right there shows just how hypocritical all you supposed christ tards are, your all evil deep down and you fool no one. Not allowed to have any thought other than the hive huh, well f*ck you .
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There is no Rapture.

There is only Retards Who Believe in The Rapture.

/thread
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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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A brilliant and loving teacher who was put upon with the myths of previous Christs (Virgin Birth, Resurrection, 12 Disciples, etc...). All the "Messiahs" that came before Jesus were also born on "Christmas".

Christians don't even know that they worship The Sun, not The Son of God.

Y'all should read a Real History Book sometime.
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Christ was not born on Christmas. That is the pagan part that was copied later. Most likely he was born in the fall.
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The Rapture is a Protestant misunderstanding of Revelations.
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nope...:
Thread: Revealing "The Revelation" (Page 5)
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When everyone is stupid enough to believe in the Rapture, it could happen.
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