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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/12/2017 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nah I'm fit. Have you ever driven I95? For 7-800 miles. Nonstop counter steering against those winds and trying to stay centered in the lane so the car doesn't pull from the slight tire impression in the road... Its not comfortable. |
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Deplorable First Born Son User ID: 73158024 United States 03/12/2017 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP... Right off the bat, I wanted to follow your story but fell off the wagon as I was looking for information regarding THE MAKE MODEL AND YEAR of your vehicle. I will tell you this. I drive a cargo-type van for work. No I do not deliver packages, I haul ass to the sites of large scale disasters and bring specialized equipment to help in the recovery process. My "bat phone" rings and I could be going 200, 500, 1,500 miles to a disaster. So you get the fact that I drive long stretches of road at very high speed in a vehicle as aerodynamic as a school bus. (side note: research the price of lightly used school buses) Back to the point. My most recent purchase is a Fiat built RAM Promaster. I researched my latest purchase in greater detail, because; I am tired of being blow all over the highway. Being a FIAT body of European Design, this type cargo van, IS more Aerodynamic than anything made in America. But with my most recent trip I was STILL all over the road. So now I am looking into (I kid you not) winglets for the trailing edges and slip stream surfaces of the van's body. They are small, almost tiny in fact and truckers who have been using them swear by them. The science is pretty much exactly what you are stating... Basically, the un-aerodynamic bodies of Large Trucks produce almost perfectly shaped... wind tunnels. The areas behind the cab and trailer have this tunnel collapse and literally pull backwards on the forward moving vehicle. This force kills MPG. Also, this "wind tunnel" is fine to drive in as long as there is NO WIND or very little side wind. But once the winds get going this tunnel is pushed to one side or another causing a wall of air to place a torquing force on the entire length of the vehicle that must be fought by steering slightly opposite of the torque. These winglets for lack of a better term, don't outright collapse the tunnel, but they do break it up enough to cause changes in it's structure to have much less effect. I am seriously, thinking about adding these to my Promaster... [link to airtab.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/12/2017 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP... Quoting: Deplorable First Born Son Right off the bat, I wanted to follow your story but fell off the wagon as I was looking for information regarding THE MAKE MODEL AND YEAR of your vehicle. I will tell you this. I drive a cargo-type van for work. No I do not deliver packages, I haul ass to the sites of large scale disasters and bring specialized equipment to help in the recovery process. My "bat phone" rings and I could be going 200, 500, 1,500 miles to a disaster. So you get the fact that I drive long stretches of road at very high speed in a vehicle as aerodynamic as a school bus. (side note: research the price of lightly used school buses) Back to the point. My most recent purchase is a Fiat built RAM Promaster. I researched my latest purchase in greater detail, because; I am tired of being blow all over the highway. Being a FIAT body of European Design, this type cargo van, IS more Aerodynamic than anything made in America. But with my most recent trip I was STILL all over the road. So now I am looking into (I kid you not) winglets for the trailing edges and slip stream surfaces of the van's body. They are small, almost tiny in fact and truckers who have been using them swear by them. The science is pretty much exactly what you are stating... Basically, the un-aerodynamic bodies of Large Trucks produce almost perfectly shaped... wind tunnels. The areas behind the cab and trailer have this tunnel collapse and literally pull backwards on the forward moving vehicle. This force kills MPG. Also, this "wind tunnel" is fine to drive in as long as there is NO WIND or very little side wind. But once the winds get going this tunnel is pushed to one side or another causing a wall of air to place a torquing force on the entire length of the vehicle that must be fought by steering slightly opposite of the torque. These winglets for lack of a better term, don't outright collapse the tunnel, but they do break it up enough to cause changes in it's structure to have much less effect. I am seriously, thinking about adding these to my Promaster... [link to airtab.com] 2013 dodge avenger . But from observations on the ride there and back, everyone had the same issue. I would watch the vehicles far ahead and took notice when someone swayed in or out , each driver in the same lane, no matter the distance swayed at the exact same spot. I was actually testing it at the time and each time I would spot the Hardest sways of other drivers and myself would happen where these surgical like cuts would begin to veer left or right, each time I could feel the wind at the moment of the cuts curve would push each driver in the direction of the cut... If we take any car, and modify the body of this car, say we put a spoiler on the vehicle and a roofscoop. Those objects will change the aerodynamics of the car, affecting the way the car steers and the amount of down force caused by the cars movement..... Now pretend for a moment, the road is the body of the car, if we cut lines into the road, we get the same affect, so any turbulence on the road will be affected depending on the speed of the wind and direction of the lines cut in the road... Am I grttin there? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/12/2017 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP... Quoting: Deplorable First Born Son Right off the bat, I wanted to follow your story but fell off the wagon as I was looking for information regarding THE MAKE MODEL AND YEAR of your vehicle. I will tell you this. I drive a cargo-type van for work. No I do not deliver packages, I haul ass to the sites of large scale disasters and bring specialized equipment to help in the recovery process. My "bat phone" rings and I could be going 200, 500, 1,500 miles to a disaster. So you get the fact that I drive long stretches of road at very high speed in a vehicle as aerodynamic as a school bus. (side note: research the price of lightly used school buses) Back to the point. My most recent purchase is a Fiat built RAM Promaster. I researched my latest purchase in greater detail, because; I am tired of being blow all over the highway. Being a FIAT body of European Design, this type cargo van, IS more Aerodynamic than anything made in America. But with my most recent trip I was STILL all over the road. So now I am looking into (I kid you not) winglets for the trailing edges and slip stream surfaces of the van's body. They are small, almost tiny in fact and truckers who have been using them swear by them. The science is pretty much exactly what you are stating... Basically, the un-aerodynamic bodies of Large Trucks produce almost perfectly shaped... wind tunnels. The areas behind the cab and trailer have this tunnel collapse and literally pull backwards on the forward moving vehicle. This force kills MPG. Also, this "wind tunnel" is fine to drive in as long as there is NO WIND or very little side wind. But once the winds get going this tunnel is pushed to one side or another causing a wall of air to place a torquing force on the entire length of the vehicle that must be fought by steering slightly opposite of the torque. These winglets for lack of a better term, don't outright collapse the tunnel, but they do break it up enough to cause changes in it's structure to have much less effect. I am seriously, thinking about adding these to my Promaster... [link to airtab.com] The problem is more than likely the road , as I described and not the car. If I'm driving up home on a small stretch of highway 209 , the traffic is less intense , because of the multiple towns , and the lack of some type of walls on each side, won't allow this force of wind to follow a set path , because there's open areas every mile or so that allow the force to disperse in many different directions. Here in PA since my trip I've driven on 1 major interstate multiple times, I81. This road still isn't as busy as i95 but produces the same turbulence but weaker as it is designed almost identical to i95 . 2-4 lanes both ways, lined on each side of the interstate is heavy wooded areas that follow 81 for a good distance both ways , with a wooded area or a half pipe like hole separating the middle. Also has these surgical lines cut into the road every couple miles... Anyways my point is that I'm confident that there is a huge mistake that was made when construction took place, and this flaw is the cause of more deaths and crashes then the actually drivers themselves.. Observe passing traffic next time you take a long trip down a long interstate, watch as they sway back and forth , some will cross lanes because of the wind change. Let your body and your senses observe the causes of the sway. Examin the road and let your senses , i guess kind of fuse with the car ,to the best of your abilities without crashing of course, And know its not the driver or the vehicle.. But in fact the busy interstates... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/12/2017 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP... Quoting: Deplorable First Born Son Right off the bat, I wanted to follow your story but fell off the wagon as I was looking for information regarding THE MAKE MODEL AND YEAR of your vehicle. I will tell you this. I drive a cargo-type van for work. No I do not deliver packages, I haul ass to the sites of large scale disasters and bring specialized equipment to help in the recovery process. My "bat phone" rings and I could be going 200, 500, 1,500 miles to a disaster. So you get the fact that I drive long stretches of road at very high speed in a vehicle as aerodynamic as a school bus. (side note: research the price of lightly used school buses) Back to the point. My most recent purchase is a Fiat built RAM Promaster. I researched my latest purchase in greater detail, because; I am tired of being blow all over the highway. Being a FIAT body of European Design, this type cargo van, IS more Aerodynamic than anything made in America. But with my most recent trip I was STILL all over the road. So now I am looking into (I kid you not) winglets for the trailing edges and slip stream surfaces of the van's body. They are small, almost tiny in fact and truckers who have been using them swear by them. The science is pretty much exactly what you are stating... Basically, the un-aerodynamic bodies of Large Trucks produce almost perfectly shaped... wind tunnels. The areas behind the cab and trailer have this tunnel collapse and literally pull backwards on the forward moving vehicle. This force kills MPG. Also, this "wind tunnel" is fine to drive in as long as there is NO WIND or very little side wind. But once the winds get going this tunnel is pushed to one side or another causing a wall of air to place a torquing force on the entire length of the vehicle that must be fought by steering slightly opposite of the torque. These winglets for lack of a better term, don't outright collapse the tunnel, but they do break it up enough to cause changes in it's structure to have much less effect. I am seriously, thinking about adding these to my Promaster... [link to airtab.com] The problem is more than likely the road , as I described and not the car. If I'm driving up home on a small stretch of highway 209 , the traffic is less intense , because of the multiple towns , and the lack of some type of walls on each side, won't allow this force of wind to follow a set path , because there's open areas every mile or so that allow the force to disperse in many different directions. Result being No counter steering unless the weather creates a strong enough wind to push the vehicle. Also there's no cuts that have been made on the road . my car drives smooth and straight , giving me little to no distress unless its a windy day, even then its still not as bad as any interstates I been on. Here in PA since my trip I've driven on 1 major interstate multiple times, I81. This road still isn't as busy as i95 but produces the same turbulence but weaker as it is designed almost identical to i95 . 2-4 lanes both ways, lined on each side of the interstate is heavy wooded areas that follow 81 for a good distance both ways , with a wooded area or a half pipe like hole separating the middle. Also has these surgical lines cut into the road every couple miles... Anyways my point is that I'm confident that there is a huge mistake that was made when construction took place, and this flaw is the cause of more deaths and crashes then the actually drivers themselves.. Observe passing traffic next time you take a long trip down a long interstate, watch as they sway back and forth , some will cross lanes because of the wind change. Let your body and your senses observe the causes of the sway. Examin the road and let your senses , i guess kind of fuse with the car ,to the best of your abilities without crashing of course, And know its not the driver or the vehicle.. But in fact the busy interstates... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41543130 United States 03/12/2017 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nah I'm fit. Have you ever driven I95? For 7-800 miles. Nonstop counter steering against those winds and trying to stay centered in the lane so the car doesn't pull from the slight tire impression in the road... Its not comfortable. I've driven everywhere and for more than 800 miles. maybe you need power steering. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/12/2017 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nah I'm fit. Have you ever driven I95? For 7-800 miles. Nonstop counter steering against those winds and trying to stay centered in the lane so the car doesn't pull from the slight tire impression in the road... Its not comfortable. I've driven everywhere and for more than 800 miles. maybe you need power steering. Read from the beginning, its not just my vehicle on i95, it's Semi trucks, Moving vans, trucks and any vehicle in general I've seen become affected by the turbulence and construction flaws. The only thing I haven't saw that was affected was motorcycles..... Once you drive the full length with little to no stops you will understand immediately what I'm talking about. |
Deplorable First Born Son User ID: 73158024 United States 03/12/2017 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So now I am looking into (I kid you not) winglets for the trailing edges and slip stream surfaces of the van's body. Quoting: Deplorable First Born Son They are small, almost tiny in fact and truckers who have been using them swear by them. maybe the GMOs really have destroyed GLP's men. LOL, So it's not manly to use your brain to master the world around you? Okey Doeky! Now go catch yourself some more Pokemon's. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/13/2017 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The nature of this distinction has been disputed by various philosophers; however, the terms may be roughly defined as follows: A priori knowledge is knowledge that is known independently of experience (that is, it is non-empirical, or arrived at beforehand, usually by reason). It will henceforth be acquired through anything that is independent from experience. A posteriori knowledge is knowledge that is known by experience (that is, it is empirical, or arrived at afterward). A priori knowledge is a way of gaining knowledge without the need of experience. In Bruce Russell's article "A Priori Justification and Knowledge"[27] he says that it is "knowledge based on a priori justification," (1) which relies on intuition and the nature of these intuitions. A priori knowledge is often contrasted with posteriori knowledge, which is knowledge gained by experience. A way to look at the difference between the two is through an example. Bruce Russell gives two propositions in which the reader decides which one he believes more. Option A: All crows are birds. Option B: All crows are black. If you believe option A, then you are a priori justified in believing it because you don't have to see a crow to know it's a bird. If you believe in option B, then you are posteriori justified to believe it because you have seen many crows therefore knowing they are black. He goes on to say that it doesn't matter if the statement is true or not, only that if you believe in one or the other that matters. The idea of a priori knowledge is that it is based on intuition or rational insights. Laurence BonJour says in his article "The Structure of Empirical Knowledge",[28] that a "rational insight is an immediate, non-inferential grasp, apprehension or 'seeing' that some proposition is necessarily true." (3) Going back to the crow example, by Laurence BonJour's definition the reason you would believe in option A is because you have an immediate knowledge that a crow is a bird, without ever experiencing one. Source - Wikipedia [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/13/2017 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So now I am looking into (I kid you not) winglets for the trailing edges and slip stream surfaces of the van's body. Quoting: Deplorable First Born Son They are small, almost tiny in fact and truckers who have been using them swear by them. maybe the GMOs really have destroyed GLP's men. LOL, So it's not manly to use your brain to master the world around you? Okey Doeky! Now go catch yourself some more Pokemon's. How else ? Do you just listen to what your told and assume its truth? Or do you let your brain do what its supposed to do and allow you to use processed information to assure yourself what your taught is the truth? You don't trust your brain? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74395463 United States 03/13/2017 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is the philosophy, at GLP? Is someone here that is fully capable of backing me up , correcting me, or using there prior knowledge to add on to this? ------------------------------------------ Driving Forces To better understand wind we must recognize that it is the result of a limited number of accelerating and decelerating forces, and that the action of these forces is controlled by specific fundamental natural laws. Sir Isaac Newton formulated these laws as several laws of motion. The first law suggests that an object that is stationary will remain stationary, and an object in motion will stay in motion as long as no opposing force is put on the object. As a result of this law, a puck sent in flight from a blade of a hockey stick will remain in motion until friction slows it down or the goalie makes a save. This law also suggests that once in motion an object's path should be straight. Newton's second law of motion suggests that the force put on an object equals its mass multiplied by the acceleration produced. The term force in this law refers to the total or net effect of all the forces acting on an object. Mathematically, this law is written as: Force = Mass x Acceleration or Acceleration = Force/Mass From this natural law of motion we can see that the acceleration of an object is directly proportional to the net force pushing or pulling that body and inversely proportional to the mass of the body. Thus, the greater the force created by the movement of a hockey player's stick the faster the puck will travel. This law also suggests that if the player used a larger (more massive) puck more force would have to be applied to it to get it to travel as fast as a puck with less mass. In the previous lecture we briefly examined one of the forces, pressure gradient force, acting on wind. Let us return to this force and examine it in greater detail and in relation to Newton's laws of motion. We will also examine the effects of three other forces that act on air in motion. Pressure gradient force is the primary force influencing the formation of wind from local to global scales. This force is determined by the spatial pattern of atmospheric pressure at any given moment in time. .According to Newton's first law of motion, air will remain moving in a straight line unless it is influenced by an unbalancing force. The consequence of Coriolis force opposing pressure gradient acceleration is that the moving air changes direction. Instead of wind blowing directly from high to low pressure, the rotation of the Earth causes wind to be deflected off course. In the Northern Hemisphere, wind is deflected to the right of its path, while in the Southern Hemisphere it is deflected to the left. [link to www.physicalgeography.net] _--------------_------------------------- - |