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Pravda.ru: Russia modernizes its superpowerful Bulava missile to crush USA’s ABM system

 
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Pravda.ru: Russia modernizes its superpowerful Bulava missile to crush USA’s ABM system
[link to english.pravda.ru]

Russia-U.S. relations are again begin to resemble the Cold War era. The latest developments indicate a cold front taking shape. The politicians do not seem to care much about global warming. In the past, the problems in the relations between the two nations had to do with a political rivalry. Nowadays the problems mostly relate to a military sphere.

Military rivalry has always played an important part in the international relations. Russia and the U.S. used to be engaged in a sort of competition on the world market of arms and military equipment by actively supplying them to a number of regimes at the Middle East and Asia. Now the rule of the game is based on an equal reaction taken by one party for every action of the other one. It is hard to tell who set the ball in motion. By and large, Russia had moved forward slowly yet consistently in the past, without taking note of any other competitors. Russian military strategists still use the term “indicated enemy” for referring exclusively to the U.S. Likewise, U.S. military uses the same term in relation to Russia. The plans for the development of anti-missile defense system announced by U.S. President Bush were probably the first step that led to the latest round of escalation in terms of military rivalry.

Russia strongly objected to the move yet the U.S. remained adamant. Russia responded by making a number of highly publicized statements regarding inefficiency of the proposed anti-missile defense system. Russia also promised to deal an “asymmetrical but very effective blow.” The steps actually concerned the implementation of a national nuclear re-armament plan. Specifically, the plan envisioned that such new ballistic missiles as Topol-M and Bulava enter service in the foreseeable future. The Bulava is Russia’s newest ballistic missile, developed and built using the latest technologies. It is designed to easily overcome any anti-missile defense system.

The Bulava was supposed to be deployed on nuclear submarines. In other words, it was supposed to become a mobile weapon. The enemy would have to build a wide net of anti-missile defense system for covering North America from coast to coast. In response to Russia’s plans, the U.S. decided to deploy assets of its anti-missile defense system in Poland and Czech Republic. The reasons behind the deployment of the system are obvious. The system will be capable of intercepting Iran’s ballistic missiles only if they should fly across Russia’s airspace. The latest test launch of the Bulava that failed for a third time in the last four months seemed to become Russia’s reply to the U.S. plans.

The test launch of the Bulava ended in failure on December 24. Shortly after the incident, Kommersant, a leading business daily, reported that “two special commissions were set up to investigate the causes of the failed test launches.” The first commission will deal with technical issues directly related to the launches, while the other one will try to locate the origin of a leak to the press about the failure of the Bulava. Well, to say a “leak” is to say nothing. The whole world became aware of the three unsuccessful launches of the Bulava. The previous two unsuccessful launches occurred September 7 and October 25, RIA Novosti reported. The missiles were launched from a ballistic missile submarine in the White Sea. The first missile failed to reach its target, and the second self-destructed after deviating from its trajectory.

The Bulava was supposed to become a powerful weapon that can be launched from any location around the globe. One missile is capable of destructing about ten targets, each the size of a city. The R-30 (SS-NX-30) intercontinental ballistic missile was developed on the basis of the Topol-M, a similar land-based missile. The Bulava were to be deployed on new submarines of Borei class. One submarine will carry 12 missiles aboard. The Bulava is equipped with 10 warheads; each of the warheads can be programmed for independent target acquisition. In other words, one submarine will be capable of hitting 120 targets while operating in any part of the world, the Arctic and Antarctic inclusive.

However, the three unsuccessful test launches occurred in a row following the four successful ones. The Bulava missile was developed at the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology. A team of designers and engineers was headed by Yuri Solomonov. The team was previously involved in the development of the Topol-M. According to Solomonov, the Bulava was designed to become a modified version of the Topol-M that would enable the government to significantly cut production costs. That is why all the tests were carried out at sea. There were no test launches on land. Besides, the above design bureau has never developed naval missiles. The test program went off without a hitch until last year. The latest series of failures put in jeopardy the plans for the deployment of the Bulava in 2007. The Russian military will have to conduct from 12 to 14 successful test launches of Bulava missiles prior to commissioning them as the naval component of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces, said Anatoly Perminov, head of the Federal Space Agency, in an interview to Kommersant.

Many analysts pointed out a direct link between the Bulava deployment plans and President Putin’s second presidency, which is drawing to a close. The Americans are confident that “there was no lack of funding for Russia’s state weapons procurement program. In a situation when the world oil prices are on the increase, and Russia has become one of the world’s largest energy exporters, the Russian government is spending a record amount of money on the modernization of strategic missiles. The funds currently allocated for the purpose exceed the total spending over the last 25 years,” United Press International reports. As for those responsible for spreading secret information, steps have been taken too. According to the Russian media, three officers with the Russian Defense Ministry and naval headquarters were discharged from service several days after the first reports about the December 24 failure were published. The officers reportedly leaked information to the press.
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Details on the missile to enter service in 2008:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Untill they get the thing to actually work, I wouln't call it 'superpowerful'. Even when it was drawn-up, it was a lightweight compromise compared to the previous failed attempt at making a modern heavyweight SLBM.
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the USA and Russia are just playing footsie......anybody happen to remember 911? Anybody happen to notice Americas total inability to stop the attacks on the WTC and the all mighty pentagon. Does anybody really still have even a shred of confidence that we, the people Americas will be protected from incoming Russian Missiles and planes and whatever else they throw our way?....or to take it a step further....imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!

American missile will not be able to protect America people.
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the USA and Russia are just playing footsie......anybody happen to remember 911? Anybody happen to notice Americas total inability to stop the attacks on the WTC and the all mighty pentagon. Does anybody really still have even a shred of confidence that we, the people Americas will be protected from incoming Russian Missiles and planes and whatever else they throw our way?....or to take it a step further....imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!

American missile will not be able to protect America people.
 Quoting: the world according to Bush



Here is a thought:

They WANT to destroy America. It is effectively bankrupt, remember? What do other criminal organisations do to those that can't pay their debts?
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!


 Quoting: the world according to Bush



Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!





Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.
 Quoting: beezle



That must make you feel safe, eh Jewboy?
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!





Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.



That must make you feel safe, eh Jewboy?
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What, is everyone you don't like suddenly a Jew?
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HELL!



It is not hard to tell who set the ball in motion.



It was motherfucker Bush with his fake 911 to invade oil rich nations as his Israeli masters desire.


wtf
Why fight for "freedom" somewhere else, when freedoms are eroding IN the U.S. of A?

Why fight Israel wars with your children, America?

When the SHTF, do you think the color of your skin, political affiliation, or nationality will matter?
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Amitakh Stanford had predicted this rift in world politics and had written about it in her peice Aliens Behind the Super Powers and Super Alliances. She explains how the two main Anunnaki alliances are esoterically manipulating world affairs. She has written that the Reptilian group (the China-Russia alliance) now appear to be weaker, but will eventually be victorious. I feel that this excerpt from the article (located in full, here : [link to www.xeeatwelve.net] ) may be greatly appreciated by some, in light of these new current events.

...Since the recent alien alliances began, various countries have aligned themselves with the U.S.A., which is currently a Vulturite dominated state that was formerly a Reptilian dominated nation. As I stated in Super Powers, Super Wars and Extermination, the Reptilian consciousnesses in high positions have already "migrated" to China. At this time, many nations are changing political alliances. These changes could surprise many political observers who lack the esoteric understanding that the new alliances and allegiances being formed are based upon alien consciousnesses that are dominant in the various countries. On the political scene, there will be many changes of personnel in banking and other political fields due to alien alignments.

Several Arab states will align with the Vulturite-headed U.S.A., others will align with the Reptilians. This is going to cause severe conflict in Israel, which continues to be influenced by the Reptilians. A severe rift will form within Israel and between its main ally, the U.S.A. The new Arab/U.S.A. (Vulturite) alliance will be very strong despite the allies' religious differences (Christian/Muslim). Here is what I mentioned in Discourse #12 regarding the invasion of Iraq by U.S.A. forces:

. . . Here is my revelation from 31st March 2003:



- Other countries are going to join in. Syria will be the first. The birthplace (country) of Jesus will tremble.

Internal rebellion will occur in the number one on the top (Vulturite side) which will eventually fall and will be humiliated and punished.

The road to Damascus will lead to many places.

Bloodshed everywhere will cover the whole earth, streaming far and long.

All heads will turn as they witness the horrific end of mankind.

Humanity in transit will not rest in peace.

The voice of Old will scream out and be heard for miles around.

Those who caused the grim will find no place to hide. They will cringe in fear and be breathless. Their hearts will fly out in fear and numbness. Their days of Old will catch up with them. They will cry but no tears will come, they will scream but none will hear them, they will cry for help and forgiveness but none will be given to them. The gnashing of teeth and the tearing out of their hair will signal the end of the bloodthirsty tribe of Aaron.

"Mountains" will turn over to crush the evil ones. The mountain of giants will advance in numbers never witnessed before and march towards "Golgotha" and together the wind of fate will gather strength and push eastwards, northwards, southwards and even to the west. The land of Zion will cry and then will be no more. Hosanna in the highest all will shout but there will be none to hear or sing the song "Hosanna, Hosanna." -



It should be remembered that Syria has long been considered to be strongly opposed to the U.S.A. The physical observers will believe Syria's turn towards the U.S.A. to be due to bribes/threats etc. However, the reason for the shift towards the new Vulturite alliance is the commencement of the alignments of alien consciousnesses - Syria is the first to join in.

It will not matter what political stand a country took in the past; today the alliances will form regardless of religious, political, economic and other differences. The regimes can be totalitarian or democratic - it will make no difference. Since every country has a mixture of Reptilians and Vulturites in their populations, there will be unrest everywhere.

Taiwan will become one of the catalyst issues regarding the confrontation of the two sides. However, remember that the wars do not have to be shooting wars. They can take many forms of expression.

The United Kingdom is in flux right now, and while it will appear to follow the U.S.A. at first, eventually it will cool towards it after Tony Blair is no longer the Prime Minister. It is most likely that Britain's former master - the Reptilians - will re-gain political dominance in that country.

Russia will join China and form a formidable alliance of Reptilian forces. Brazil, Italy, Iran, India, Iceland, Indonesia, Malaysia, France, Korea, Germany, Mexico, the Netherlands and others, after internal turmoil, will eventually gravitate towards the Sino-Russian alliance.

Denmark, Australia, Jordan, Pakistan, Ukraine, Japan and most of the Asian countries, Spain, Canada and others will eventually gravitate towards the Vulturite power base in the U.S.A...


© 2005 Dr. Amitakh Stanford & AHSAF
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I got news for you ...the U.S. does not use the term " Indicated Enemy referring to Russia"

Dream on !
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!





Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.
 Quoting: beezle



you know what is your biggest weakness???

it`s to think the US army is invincible....

get real man
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Oh, no I don't. In such a scenario America would burn, its cities would crumble, and tens of millions would die. Thing is, half an hour later, the same thing would happen back in Russia. No one wins.
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!





Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.



That must make you feel safe, eh Jewboy?


What, is everyone you don't like suddenly a Jew?
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You'd love that to be the case, "poor, persecuted Australian Jew".

But it isn't.
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!





Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.



That must make you feel safe, eh Jewboy?


What, is everyone you don't like suddenly a Jew?


You'd love that to be the case, "poor, persecuted Australian Jew".

But it isn't.
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You seem to be just a little obsessed with Jews, mate.
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Oh, no I don't. In such a scenario America would burn, its cities would crumble, and tens of millions would die. Thing is, half an hour later, the same thing would happen back in Russia. No one wins.
 Quoting: beezle


sure no one wins!! so i guest our only solution is to remove bush from power to bring stability back in this world, but 70% of the population are just a bunch of sheeps unable to see the truth in all this.
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imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!





Then about a thousand Trident nuclear warheads would rain down on Russia.



That must make you feel safe, eh Jewboy?


What, is everyone you don't like suddenly a Jew?


You'd love that to be the case, "poor, persecuted Australian Jew".

But it isn't.


You seem to be just a little obsessed with Jews, mate.
 Quoting: beezle



Who wouldn't be?

Perpetual flies in the ointment.
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The asymmetric response
[link to translate.google.com]
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prvada = CIA

ABM = hoax
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prvada = CIA

ABM = hoax
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And Putin and Defense minister Ivanov are CIA agents,right?
Its their words,if you read the article.
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Where do they say that they are worried about "ABM" systems?
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the USA and Russia are just playing footsie......anybody happen to remember 911? Anybody happen to notice Americas total inability to stop the attacks on the WTC and the all mighty pentagon. Does anybody really still have even a shred of confidence that we, the people Americas will be protected from incoming Russian Missiles and planes and whatever else they throw our way?....or to take it a step further....imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!

American missile will not be able to protect America people.
 Quoting: the world according to Bush
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All this about NOTHING--REMEMBER USA couldnt stop(if we are to believe it) hiding 19 Goat Herders and a bearded man in a cave from creating Havoc.

So why are people suddenly fearful of a country with real weapons?
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Where do they say that they are worried about "ABM" systems?
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the USA and Russia are just playing footsie......anybody happen to remember 911? Anybody happen to notice Americas total inability to stop the attacks on the WTC and the all mighty pentagon. Does anybody really still have even a shred of confidence that we, the people Americas will be protected from incoming Russian Missiles and planes and whatever else they throw our way?....or to take it a step further....imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!

American missile will not be able to protect America people.
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All this about NOTHING--REMEMBER USA couldnt stop(if we are to believe it) hiding 19 Goat Herders and a bearded man in a cave from creating Havoc.

So why are people suddenly fearful of a country with real weapons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 197863


I see this stereotype about Muslims as towelheads and goatherder often.Do you think among millions of them there is no academia,scientists,professors,engineers?
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Would you expect that he would call "ABM" by the name, i.e. nukes?

ABM is a hoax, and that's why Russia has no such program.
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the USA and Russia are just playing footsie......anybody happen to remember 911? Anybody happen to notice Americas total inability to stop the attacks on the WTC and the all mighty pentagon. Does anybody really still have even a shred of confidence that we, the people Americas will be protected from incoming Russian Missiles and planes and whatever else they throw our way?....or to take it a step further....imagine what would happen if RUSSIA SUDDENLY GOT CREATIVE and attacked in a totally unexpected manner!

American missile will not be able to protect America people.
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All this about NOTHING--REMEMBER USA couldnt stop(if we are to believe it) hiding 19 Goat Herders and a bearded man in a cave from creating Havoc.

So why are people suddenly fearful of a country with real weapons?


I see this stereotype about Muslims as towelheads and goatherder often.Do you think among millions of them there is no academia,scientists,professors,engineers?
 Quoting: 9net 197806


Combined military spending in Muslim nations in the ME vs that of JewBloc US-UK-Israel One World Order imperialists?

Looking forward to your response.
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(GLP doesn't like russian)
Vice-Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov after a meeting in Seville, from the Minister of Defense Robert Gates said that <nash otvet> the deployment of the American ABM system near Russian borders, <course, asymmetrical..And if anyone tries to bring us back to the arms race, we had to go back we are not going to>.
.The essence of asymmetric response explained the President Vladimir Putin in Munich, in answer to questions from journalists : <If we do not build the missile defence system, we should create a system to overcome anti-missile defence system, which rank our partners. .This is logical and understandable>.
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This is ridiculous. If anyone attacked the US with missiles- we would hit back hard enough to destroy whoever did it. But the same goes for us if we attacked anyone with the means to strike back. We would be destroyed. That is why it is ridiculous. That poster was right- no one wins. Everyone loses. So why bother?
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This is ridiculous. If anyone attacked the US with missiles- we would hit back hard enough to destroy whoever did it. But the same goes for us if we attacked anyone with the means to strike back. We would be destroyed. That is why it is ridiculous. That poster was right- no one wins. Everyone loses. So why bother?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 197871



Because if one side chooses not to play they die.

Understand?
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This is ridiculous. If anyone attacked the US with missiles- we would hit back hard enough to destroy whoever did it. But the same goes for us if we attacked anyone with the means to strike back. We would be destroyed. That is why it is ridiculous. That poster was right- no one wins. Everyone loses. So why bother?



Because if one side chooses not to play they die.

Understand?
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Everyone dies. Do you understand?
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This is ridiculous. If anyone attacked the US with missiles- we would hit back hard enough to destroy whoever did it. But the same goes for us if we attacked anyone with the means to strike back. We would be destroyed. That is why it is ridiculous. That poster was right- no one wins. Everyone loses. So why bother?



Because if one side chooses not to play they die.

Understand?


Everyone dies. Do you understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 197871


The aggressor (Jews) don't care. If you won't fight you'll die. If you do fight, we might both all die but, we might not.

Russian Roulette, anyone?

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