chocolate lovers beware: new ingredient..PGPR | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 195846 United States 02/19/2007 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, PGPR is crap and it is in almost all commerical chocolate. It is not currently in Lindol's truffle balls, I don't know about their candy bars. Helped me to walk away from Hershey's, Nestle's, and M&M/Mars -- I also think Cadbury is also using PGPR. Also note - 99% of 'sugar' chewing gum now has aspartame in it also - read the labels if you don't believe me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 189922 United States 02/19/2007 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since 2006, commercial-grade candy bars, such as those made by Hersheys and Nestle, made an industry-wide switch to include PGPR as an ingredient - a possible indicator of a cost saving measure by the commercial chocolate industry. Makers of PGPR (see source link below) such as Danisco and Palsgaard indicate that PGPR can be used to replace the more expensive cocoa butter as an ingredient in chocolate. PGPR is a yellowish, viscous liquid comprised of polyglycerol esters of polycondensed fatty acids from castor oil. It may also be polyglycerol esters of dimerized fatty acids of soya bean oil. PGPR is strongly lipophilic, soluble in fats and oils and insoluble in water and ethyl alcohol. In chocolates it is used as a viscosity reducing agent. [1]. It is virtually always paired with lecithin or another plastic viscosity reducing agent. It can also be used as an emulsifier in spreads and in salad dressings or as a crystal inhibitor and anti-clouding agent in fractionated vegetable oils. The Vegan Society claims that PGPR may be animal derived, but no evidence has been presented that any commercially available PGPR products are made using animal-derived substances. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83061 United States 02/19/2007 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just checked, PGPR is now in Cadbury's mini eggs. This year the chocolate is 100% HERSHEY'S, no longer the GOOD Cadbury chocolate. When Hershey first bought Cadbury, they still used the good stuff till this year. It is GARBAGE chocolate now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 189922This is the most depressing news I've heard all year. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 189922 United States 02/19/2007 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just checked, PGPR is now in Cadbury's mini eggs. This year the chocolate is 100% HERSHEY'S, no longer the GOOD Cadbury chocolate. When Hershey first bought Cadbury, they still used the good stuff till this year. It is GARBAGE chocolate now. Quoting: Mister ObviousThis is the most depressing news I've heard all year. LOL, me too, have been a mini egg addict for 3 years!!!!!!!!! Now I eat 2 and that is it! I am returning 9 of the 10 bags we bought! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 161353 United States 02/19/2007 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, PGPR is crap and it is in almost all commerical chocolate. It is not currently in Lindol's truffle balls, I don't know about their candy bars. Helped me to walk away from Hershey's, Nestle's, and M&M/Mars -- I also think Cadbury is also using PGPR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195846Also note - 99% of 'sugar' chewing gum now has aspartame in it also - read the labels if you don't believe me. ASK YOURSELF! IF YOU HAVE THE **CKIN GUTS! WHY DO GUM MFRS USE ASPARTAME IN "SUGER" TYPE GUMS WHEN IT IS LIKE 3X MORE EXPENSIVE THAN SUGAR? THEY ARE NOT ADVERTISED AS SUGAR FREE OR EVEN LESS SUGAR!!@!!!!! IS ANYONE READING THIS? aspartame it harmful to brain function. read about it. not a theory. like fluoride. like alot of things being pumped into the public to make them dull like cattle. DULL LIKE CATTLE. |
history of Woo Woo User ID: 190882 United States 02/19/2007 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget until Milton Hershey reverse-engineered the European recipes and developed means of mass-production, chocolate was a rarity reserved for the wealthy. Hershey's innovation was the 5 cent chocolate bar, like Ford's $5/day wage and pricing his horseless carriages so that the middle class could afford one. |
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RythymRing User ID: 197015 United States 02/19/2007 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I only eat organic dark 70-80% cocoa chocolate. Never is that stuff in there, so there. Sunny shit starter & stirrer, I shit the shit, My shit is stirred not shaken, Winner of the golden shit-stirrer award, Calling someone "a bit of a shit stirrer" in Ireland is usually a term of endearment rather than an insult. |
Blue Dolphin nli >>> User ID: 198196 United States 02/19/2007 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PGPR is a yellowish, viscous liquid comprised of polyglycerol esters of polycondensed fatty acids Quoting: Anonymous Coward 189922The Vegan Society claims that PGPR may be animal derived, but no evidence has been presented that any commercially available PGPR products are made using animal-derived substances. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Damn, for all we know , it could be PEOPLE-DERIVED ! Why would they waste all that good fat that's sucked outta people during liposuction....??????? Do *you* KNOW where your fat goes after you have one of those proceedures....hmmm? No cheap chocolate for me thanks |
*~BLUE DOLPHINS~* User ID: 198196 United States 02/20/2007 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Btw, they have been adding this crap to certain brands of chocolate since at least 2003. I had bought a Mounds bar {which is dark chocolate } and happened to read the ingredients and saw PGPR listed. I didn't think much of it until about an hour later when I felt sick to my stomach. I called the 800 # that's on the wrapper to ask them what this PGPR stuff was, and Customer service couldn't give me any answer other than, "it's a nontoxic food aditive" yeah, NON-TOXIC, same as the Food Industry tells us about Aspartame, that it's *safe* > Yeah right, and there's a bridge for sale in Brooklyn, real cheap. CORRUPT LIARS only out to make a profit and could care less if you drop dead of some exotic illness >>> ~What the caterpillar fears as death, the Master welcomes as Butterfly~ |
Sigma User ID: 198047 United States 02/20/2007 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, PGPR is crap and it is in almost all commerical chocolate. It is not currently in Lindol's truffle balls, I don't know about their candy bars. Helped me to walk away from Hershey's, Nestle's, and M&M/Mars -- I also think Cadbury is also using PGPR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 195846I have a Cadbury bar right here. Ingredients: Semi-sweet chocolate (sugar, cocoa butter, chocolate, milk fat, natural and artificial flavors, soy lecithin, milk) Thats it. No PGPR. No Aspartame. ..|.. |
Faaip de oaid User ID: 123527 United States 02/20/2007 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | buy imported .. understood hooray for internet! think for yourself, question authority.. - Dr. Timothy Leary ... Life!.. it's just a ride! - Bill Hicks The possession of anything begins in the mind - Bruce Lee The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious.... - ALBERT EINSTEIN ~ * ~ opposing zealousness at roots ultimately suffer Though our 'creators'(..'in our image' - Genesis) may have given us life. Bighting the hand that feeds you has never been such a wise phrase. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Sigma User ID: 198047 United States 02/20/2007 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | buy imported .. understood Quoting: Faaip de oaidhooray for internet! Sure! Give money to other countries for something made all over this country.... yea, ok. How about buy from the little guy that makes homemade chocolates instead of a corporation? ..|.. |
ChecksInTheMail User ID: 185033 United States 02/20/2007 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.carbwire.com] Quoting: bare in woods 118113Maybe we can find some chocolate w/out this PGPR crap. I will post what and where I find it. That's for sugar-free, low carb stuff. Not even 10% of the chocolate market. |
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ChecksInTheMail User ID: 185033 United States 02/20/2007 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.carbwire.com] Quoting: ChecksInTheMail 185033Maybe we can find some chocolate w/out this PGPR crap. I will post what and where I find it. That's for sugar-free, low carb stuff. Not even 10% of the chocolate market. I'm wong, sorry about that -- it's in sugared chocolate too...the bastards! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 191579 Australia 02/20/2007 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's very interesting that they continually change the ingredients of what I've been eating for the last 40 years. No wonder I feel sick. Me and my wife will make our own chocolates from now on. It's easy anyway. You need 2 tubs of PGPR 1 Block of Aspartime. 3 cakes of MSG and my favorite ingredient : natural flavoring identitcal to nature No. #335678 Don't worry, it's identical to nature. That's why we don't use nature, we synthetically produce nature. Whatever flavor it could be we don't tell you on the lable, it's the flavor of human embryos naturally identical to 1 week old abortions. We are weening you onto the GREEN. SOYLENT GREEN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 168632 United States 02/20/2007 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the OP's link: "Why do manufacturers use PGPR? Cost-cutting, of course. Our society relies so heavily on mass-marketed products that businesses will do whatever they can to cut corners in production to bring what they believe is an acceptable end product to the consumer at the lowest possible cost. Sounds like a smart business strategy, right? After all, why else would all these companies be pouring stomach-busting maltitol and lactitol in their products? It's cheap and the consumer backlash is minimal, that's why." There's your answer to what "maltilol" is, as well as "lactitol". |
Sigma User ID: 198047 United States 02/20/2007 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who cares, I copied the ingredient list straight from a Cadbury wrapper showing it contained none of this garbage they are talking about it, and they wouldnt even acknowledge it, and are still acting like they are trying to find some chocolate free of the gunk. Fawk em ..|.. |
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