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TRUMP VINDICATED! Obama's NSA spied on Donald Trump under Project Dragnet

 
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GLP is just as bad as Google, Twitter or Youtube.

Censoring links to fatman but allowing links to CNN

Hypocrites ...

GLP = controlled opposition
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Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter?
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I mean... doesn't this just prove that an eventual candidate for Presidency and ultimately the winner was spied upon for almost a decade before he even ran? What if actually did something that would prevent him from winning that could be used against him? Just trying to understand the logic here... doesn't this just prove his point and reinforce it?
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Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter?
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It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama did have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009.
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Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter?
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It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009.
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Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter?
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It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009.
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What is the overarching issue?
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Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election.


That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say?
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Fox and friends is playing a clip of rand paul which is excellent about the important thing here being the leakers, finding the leakers..

Flynn seems to be the lynch pin on this?
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Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter?
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It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009.
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What is the overarching issue?
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It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case.

It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office.

This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about.
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Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election.


That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say?
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Where do you get 10 years of spying from?

from 2004 to 2009 is 5 years not 10.
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It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657


What is the overarching issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973


It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case.

It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office.

This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about.
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Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue?
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Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election.


That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say?
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Where do you get 10 years of spying from?

from 2004 to 2009 is 5 years not 10.
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Well, I'm no expert on spying, but I assume there was some controversy in 2016-2017 about spying. That looks like 15 years of spying to me. Even if you concede that 2016 did not happen, at minimum this man was spied upon since 2004.

What is easier to believe? They spied upon him in 2004 to 2010 and stopped doing it, or they always spied upon him and kept do it. Generally speaking, when you look at behaviors, it easier to believe that behaviors are consistent over time.

What do you think?
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I could be wrong of course. Who knows...
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Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election.


That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973


Where do you get 10 years of spying from?

from 2004 to 2009 is 5 years not 10.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657



Well, I'm no expert on spying, but I assume there was some controversy in 2016-2017 about spying. That looks like 15 years of spying to me. Even if you concede that 2016 did not happen, at minimum this man was spied upon since 2004.

What is easier to believe? They spied upon him in 2004 to 2010 and stopped doing it, or they always spied upon him and kept do it. Generally speaking, when you look at behaviors, it easier to believe that behaviors are consistent over time.

What do you think?
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I think you're talkin out of your ass is what I think.
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What is the overarching issue?
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It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case.

It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office.

This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about.
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Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue?
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I thought the birther issue started in 2012.

Maybe I'm wrong who knows.

What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS.
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No, Fox news said there is no proof YET that he was.

It's coming.

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You wish. Time is running thin for your super hero Trump to deliver.
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Your clock, like your mind, is broken.
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Just like Trump put Hillary in prison...oh wait, that never happened. loser
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I know that in Somalia, or whatever worthless savage sewer you come from, the Executive can arbitrarily imprison or execute its enemies, but things don't work that way in America.

Hillary is getting older and isn't going anywhere. Trump is busy first making America great again by stopping the bleeding of money and jobs. Sessions is working on the background problem of the criminals in the Deep State.

Priority of attack is strategic thinking, something quite beyond you and the rest of your mud-hut-dwelling tribe of fools.

This is what you are seeing. It's asking too much for you to understand what people who are far smarter than you are doing, but you can at least shut up and watch.

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What is the overarching issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973


It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case.

It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office.

This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657


Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74056392


I thought the birther issue started in 2012.

Maybe I'm wrong who knows.

What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS.
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Trump has been a threat to TPTB for 30 years.
He never went to their pizza parties.
He never accepted cocaine from their dealers.
He never took money from their bundlers.
He never sought political power.
He can't be bought.

He was and is the largest threat to the Cabal on Earth today.

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8 U.S.C. § 1182(f)
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead.
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It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case.

It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office.

This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657


Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74056392


I thought the birther issue started in 2012.

Maybe I'm wrong who knows.

What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657


Trump has been a threat to TPTB for 30 years.
He never went to their pizza parties.
He never accepted cocaine from their dealers.
He never took money from their bundlers.
He never sought political power.
He can't be bought.

He was and is the largest threat to the Cabal on Earth today.

supertrump3
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PURE, UNCUT VERITAS
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Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter?
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It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama did have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009.
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You’re funny. :)
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Funny how this should be MEGA PINNED ALL DAY
but if starts with ajones/inf-o-wars and we can't allow that....

this place starting to show it's true colors???
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Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74056392


I thought the birther issue started in 2012.

Maybe I'm wrong who knows.

What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657


Trump has been a threat to TPTB for 30 years.
He never went to their pizza parties.
He never accepted cocaine from their dealers.
He never took money from their bundlers.
He never sought political power.
He can't be bought.

He was and is the largest threat to the Cabal on Earth today.

supertrump3
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PURE, UNCUT VERITAS
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8 U.S.C. § 1182(f)
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead.


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