TRUMP VINDICATED! Obama's NSA spied on Donald Trump under Project Dragnet | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74201973 United States 03/20/2017 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean... doesn't this just prove that an eventual candidate for Presidency and ultimately the winner was spied upon for almost a decade before he even ran? What if actually did something that would prevent him from winning that could be used against him? Just trying to understand the logic here... doesn't this just prove his point and reinforce it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35176657 United States 03/20/2017 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74201973 United States 03/20/2017 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009. What is the overarching issue? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74201973 United States 03/20/2017 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election. That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35176657 United States 03/20/2017 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009. What is the overarching issue? It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case. It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office. This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35176657 United States 03/20/2017 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say? Where do you get 10 years of spying from? from 2004 to 2009 is 5 years not 10. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74056392 United Kingdom 03/20/2017 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657 It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama didn't have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009. What is the overarching issue? It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case. It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office. This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about. Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74201973 United States 03/20/2017 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say? Where do you get 10 years of spying from? from 2004 to 2009 is 5 years not 10. Well, I'm no expert on spying, but I assume there was some controversy in 2016-2017 about spying. That looks like 15 years of spying to me. Even if you concede that 2016 did not happen, at minimum this man was spied upon since 2004. What is easier to believe? They spied upon him in 2004 to 2010 and stopped doing it, or they always spied upon him and kept do it. Generally speaking, when you look at behaviors, it easier to believe that behaviors are consistent over time. What do you think? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35176657 United States 03/20/2017 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer the question... the point is a US Citizen who eventually ran and won the Presidency was spied upon for 10 years by the NSA. Furthermore, while he was in the heat of his candidacy at last two FISA warrants were given while he was at least 50-50 in a general election. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 That looks like almost 15 years of surveillance to me, off and on. I mean... I may not be an expert, but that seems like a kind of chilling of free speech. What do you say? Where do you get 10 years of spying from? from 2004 to 2009 is 5 years not 10. Well, I'm no expert on spying, but I assume there was some controversy in 2016-2017 about spying. That looks like 15 years of spying to me. Even if you concede that 2016 did not happen, at minimum this man was spied upon since 2004. What is easier to believe? They spied upon him in 2004 to 2010 and stopped doing it, or they always spied upon him and kept do it. Generally speaking, when you look at behaviors, it easier to believe that behaviors are consistent over time. What do you think? I think you're talkin out of your ass is what I think. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35176657 United States 03/20/2017 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case. It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office. This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about. Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue? I thought the birther issue started in 2012. Maybe I'm wrong who knows. What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS. |
The Comedian :D User ID: 74244541 United States 03/20/2017 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You wish. Time is running thin for your super hero Trump to deliver. Your clock, like your mind, is broken. Just like Trump put Hillary in prison...oh wait, that never happened. I know that in Somalia, or whatever worthless savage sewer you come from, the Executive can arbitrarily imprison or execute its enemies, but things don't work that way in America. Hillary is getting older and isn't going anywhere. Trump is busy first making America great again by stopping the bleeding of money and jobs. Sessions is working on the background problem of the criminals in the Deep State. Priority of attack is strategic thinking, something quite beyond you and the rest of your mud-hut-dwelling tribe of fools. This is what you are seeing. It's asking too much for you to understand what people who are far smarter than you are doing, but you can at least shut up and watch. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
The Comedian :D User ID: 74244541 United States 03/20/2017 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case. It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office. This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about. Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue? I thought the birther issue started in 2012. Maybe I'm wrong who knows. What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS. Trump has been a threat to TPTB for 30 years. He never went to their pizza parties. He never accepted cocaine from their dealers. He never took money from their bundlers. He never sought political power. He can't be bought. He was and is the largest threat to the Cabal on Earth today. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Putin's Voluntaryist (OP) User ID: 73213784 United States 03/20/2017 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657 It means Bush people ordered spying on Trump not Obama in this specific case. It might mean Obama's people actually ordered the spying on Trump to stop since it didn't go on very long after Obama took office. This is not the instance of spying Trump is talking about. Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue? I thought the birther issue started in 2012. Maybe I'm wrong who knows. What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS. Trump has been a threat to TPTB for 30 years. He never went to their pizza parties. He never accepted cocaine from their dealers. He never took money from their bundlers. He never sought political power. He can't be bought. He was and is the largest threat to the Cabal on Earth today. PURE, UNCUT VERITAS |
strgzr User ID: 74519940 United States 03/20/2017 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does it matter WHEN the NSA spied upon him. Doesn't this just make Trump seem smarter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74201973 It means this specific case doesn't prove Trumps claim because Obama did have him spied on if he was already being spied on under Bush and the spying stopped in 2009. You’re funny. :) :) |
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The Comedian :D User ID: 59611565 United States 03/20/2017 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74056392 Just realized there must have been spying during the whole "birther" issue? I thought the birther issue started in 2012. Maybe I'm wrong who knows. What I want to know is why they were spying on Trump when Bush was POTUS. Trump has been a threat to TPTB for 30 years. He never went to their pizza parties. He never accepted cocaine from their dealers. He never took money from their bundlers. He never sought political power. He can't be bought. He was and is the largest threat to the Cabal on Earth today. PURE, UNCUT VERITAS Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
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