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god CANNOT make mistakes...he CANNOT be taken by surprise either.

 
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There is no eternal life for the sinner no not even in hell the sinner will be assimilated in the lake of fire. This event is called the second death or the reward of the wicked. The reward because when you meet God you'll be expecting eternal torment.
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God is omnipotent..

all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..

being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..

NO rehab..

and NO WAY OUT..

a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..

followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..

the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.

He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..

to save us from HIMSELF really..

after all..

HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..

PLUS..

he created every torture device there..

HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..

HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..

and all those there DESERVE it..f

or being born HUMAN..

in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..

sorry..

but you have to BURN.

Also..

if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..

YOU WILL BURN as well..

for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..

wrong parents..

and wrong religion..

even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..

cause if he did NOT choose..

and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.

This worlds justice system..

while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..

you get a fine..

you steal..

you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..

you kill..

you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..

you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..

same result..

you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..

and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..

ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..

MERCY..

SYMPATHY..

COMPASSION..

REHABILITATION..

OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..

except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..

we honor him and build churches in his name...

But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...



God created satan..

and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..

so GOD..

being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..

MUST HAVE PLANNED it..

cause if he did NOT..

he is not all KNOWING..

and if he is not all KNOWING..

he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..

just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..

Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..

But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?

So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..

which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..

the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..

and this plan..

according to MOST CHRISTIANS..

included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...

SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...

But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..

especially torture without end..

So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..

by creating a being that would BRING it to be..

and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...

WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?

Besides..

he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..

NO MORE CRYING..

that ALL those things..

pain..

sorrow..

death..

agony..

will BE NO MORE..

SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?

So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??

GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..

OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
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God does not make mistakes! Of course He does!

Eve was the first mistake. She led Adam astray.

Jonah is another example. God sent Jonah to Nineveh to warn the citizens thereof. God reneged on his promise to destroy the city in three days. Instead God left His messenger hanging out to dry. As a Prophet of God, Jonah became a laughing stock.

The list is long of God's failures. You just have to search scripture for them.

"Ask and shall be given unto you"...well, maybe not. LOL

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But he will "yield accordingly" at times. See Nineveh.
Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may.

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Actually... The Bible says the Holy One of Israel says burning people alive never came to his heart. A valley has specifically been made for those who will lead their own into that abomination.
Yes HE does all things.. But we make our own Gods and Idols and we make the sacrifices of our own flesh to serve them.
There is NOTHING new under the sun.
He is the GOD of the Living. HE created the earth to be inhabited and this abomination is destroying our world as we wait for a giant space ship to remove the "righteous" few while the rest die in their garbage fields.

I have some oil for your lamps ladies.. don't worry there are plenty of us waking up who will help you for your "trip" to the great sleep.
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God does not make mistakes! Of course He does!

Eve was the first mistake. She led Adam astray.

Jonah is another example. God sent Jonah to Nineveh to warn the citizens thereof. God reneged on his promise to destroy the city in three days. Instead God left His messenger hanging out to dry. As a Prophet of God, Jonah became a laughing stock.

The list is long of God's failures. You just have to search scripture for them.

"Ask and shall be given unto you"...well, maybe not. LOL

yoda
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Eve wasn't instructed to not eat of the tree.. Adam was.. and if I remember correctly ELOHIM told Adam to gird his loins.

So no mistake on GOD.. welcome to Jacobs ladder.
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The part of no more tears is for those in heaven. You are misquoting the scriptures. So its a contradiction and God is not a liar like you said.

Be careful OP. These words you right will last forever and you will be judge against what you write and how people may respond to it.
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op is just extrapolating on what christards believe

it is not a diss against our creator
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Bingo.

It's a rail against Christendom and their absurd unscriptural nonsense.
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Fuck a bunch of muzzies and their worship of a false idol god !
Come find me bitches, I DARE YOU !
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G-d is only concerned with whether a person is good or not....what does a person do, support with their words, etc?

good and bad people can be found in every religion, race, etc.

i think it is up to our free will to create heaven or hell on earth

everlasting life is reincarnation of some sort, imho
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We don't have free will, never have and never will. Do you think somebody wants to be murdered, raped, beaten, cheated, bullied. That list can go on and on. A person won't be able to hold up their hand and say "STOP! I have free will and you're not going to be able to do any of those vile acts against me!" Do you really think the tormentor will walk away? "Damn, so sorry about that. Let me go do something vile against the people that won't tell me about their free will." No. Better hope you have a weapon to defend yourself. That'll be your only hope.

And I shun reincarnation as well. Talk about a never ending jail sentence.
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Free will?

Since when?

Who was it that planted the tree of good n evil in the garden?

God did.

Who was it that allowed the snake in?

God did.

Who made sure they were absent when the serpent tempted and decieved eve?

God did.

Who was it that used a mighty sword and two strong angels to guard the entrance of the garden from two miserable humans...but funnily enough neglected such stringent security in order to let the most powerful evil being ever INTO the garden?

God did.

Who formed you in the womb and chose your parents and date and time in history..what religion you would be raised with etc?

God did.

Who sets your span of life and knows ever day you will live?

God does.

So...who has to bend over and take it up the rear and love it as a result of all gods foreplanning and strategy?

Man does.

Who has free will?

God does..he chose everything in advance.

Man has NO SAY in anything.
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Since you consider yourself a profound scholar of the one and only 'almighty god,' I have a question for you.

Since you believe your almighty god created EVERYTHING, what was he doing BEFORE he created everything? And... How long did he wait before he decided to 'create' something?
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God is natural. In nature there are mutations and genetic mistakes. So, yes, mistakes are made and often.
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God is omnipotent..

all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..

being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..

NO rehab..

and NO WAY OUT..

a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..

followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..

the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.

He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..

to save us from HIMSELF really..

after all..

HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..

PLUS..

he created every torture device there..

HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..

HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..

and all those there DESERVE it..f

or being born HUMAN..

in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..

sorry..

but you have to BURN.

Also..

if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..

YOU WILL BURN as well..

for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..

wrong parents..

and wrong religion..

even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..

cause if he did NOT choose..

and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.

This worlds justice system..

while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..

you get a fine..

you steal..

you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..

you kill..

you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..

you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..

same result..

you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..

and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..

ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..

MERCY..

SYMPATHY..

COMPASSION..

REHABILITATION..

OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..

except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..

we honor him and build churches in his name...

But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...



God created satan..

and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..

so GOD..

being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..

MUST HAVE PLANNED it..

cause if he did NOT..

he is not all KNOWING..

and if he is not all KNOWING..

he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..

just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..

Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..

But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?

So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..

which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..

the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..

and this plan..

according to MOST CHRISTIANS..

included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...

SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...

But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..

especially torture without end..

So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..

by creating a being that would BRING it to be..

and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...

WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?

Besides..

he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..

NO MORE CRYING..

that ALL those things..

pain..

sorrow..

death..

agony..

will BE NO MORE..

SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?

So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??

GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..

OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
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Yeah, yeah, everything good that happens to you is because "god" did it and everything bad is because you did it. Religion is really just self loathing bullshit.
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I believe I received an experimental "flu" vaccine that took god out of my life. Life has never been the same since. So knowing how my life has changed I can honestly say , that yes, god is nothing but nature, and it does make mistakes. And as an entity does at the very least allows them to happen.

I don't believe if there is a god, that it knows the exact future either. I do believe god is an entity that is along for the ride helping you to accept the things that cannot be changed, and at minimum helps you out if you stay within a positive frame of mind.

I do not believe there is an afterlife. Your time is now and that is all there is. You make the best of what you have, and try to leave the next generation in better shape than yourself. That is the whole of your existence, to be of help to others. If you can accept that, you will find peace and love on earth in this life time.
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God is omnipotent..

all knowing and all seeing.

He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.

GOD PLANNED hell.

If He did not he is not all knowing.

He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..

being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..

NO rehab..

and NO WAY OUT..

a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..

followed by an even more suckful eternity.

But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..

the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.

He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..

to save us from HIMSELF really..

after all..

HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..

PLUS..

he created every torture device there..

HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..

HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..

and all those there DESERVE it..f

or being born HUMAN..

in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..

But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..

sorry..

but you have to BURN.

Also..

if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..

YOU WILL BURN as well..

for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..

wrong parents..

and wrong religion..

even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..

cause if he did NOT choose..

and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.

This worlds justice system..

while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.

You speed..

you get a fine..

you steal..

you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..

you kill..

you get locked away for a fair while..

But Gods justice system is the opposite..

You steal..

you get tortured forever without mercy..

You swear even..

same result..

you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..

and its TORTURE TIME!!!!

God has one punishment for all..

ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..

MERCY..

SYMPATHY..

COMPASSION..

REHABILITATION..

OR LET UP...

And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?

How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?

NONE..

except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..

But when GOD does it..

we honor him and build churches in his name...

But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...



God created satan..

and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..

so GOD..

being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..

MUST HAVE PLANNED it..

cause if he did NOT..

he is not all KNOWING..

and if he is not all KNOWING..

he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..

just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..

Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..

But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?

So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..

which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..

the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..

and this plan..

according to MOST CHRISTIANS..

included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...

SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...

But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..

especially torture without end..

So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..

by creating a being that would BRING it to be..

and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...

WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?

Besides..

he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..

NO MORE CRYING..

that ALL those things..

pain..

sorrow..

death..

agony..

will BE NO MORE..

SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?

So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??

GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..

OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
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Hell (land of the dead) is the left hemisphere...there is definitely a way out of that.

They wait for the "gate to be down" (partition between hemispheres) then resurrect in the flesh. I guess it's the part about locusts "choosing" when to be reborn. I guess this is inside the body of God (but not the true omnipotent GOD).

It's a simulation, everyone is programmed and since you don't produce light when you fall the very basis of there being a hell is pointless for energy harvesting in this simulation. What do I mean? The environment you're in chooses which rules to follow and which rules not to follow in the books...even though it's programming. Always in it's benefit.

If you have a soul you will not be forever destroyed here however you will have no recollection of what happened in the cycle. You can also go backwards into the animal kingdom (at least). I know that, the Spirit threatens me with that one. :)

I work for GOD. GOD is not dualistic. How can I say these things about the Spirit and still work for GOD...because these things are impositions on your true nature and the GOD of this world (simulation and the proposed heaven simulation) is not the true GOD. They don't want you to know that you don't need an intercessor; they're carrot and sticking you to make you feel important and "make you pay for sins" (that are programmed into you, btw). All about energy extraction, nothing about faith or justice.
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You are missing one important aspect in your little rant.

God is infinite and all powerful. So when YOU sin against Him, which every sin is against Him, then your sin against an eternal God is eternal. Therefor requires an eternal punishment. If it didnt then God wouldnt be Just.

Your analogy of a kid stealing from his father is wrong because the father isnt eternal or all powerful. In fact it is God who gave the Father the cookie in the first place. So the kid is really stealing from God.

Also you are not representing the full story here.

One more thought. Hell was not created for US. It was created for the Fallen angels and satan. BUT since you choose to reject God and Jesus the only place you can be apart from Him is in hell.
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So what ya saying is...if i was the PERFECT PARENT..i would be well within my rights to torture my children in hideous ways if they did something wrong?


A perfect parent would have perfect love too.

So...does perfect love also include torture?

Since when has causing untold horror and agony to someone been a demonstration of.perfect love?


You christians are without a doubt THE MOST EVIL HEARTED..CALLOUS..TWISTED..SADISTIC..FUCKED IN THE HEAD EVIL ANIMALS EVER TO STAIN THIS PLANET..besides the goatfuckers.

And it wasnt all that long ago that YOU HEARTLESS ASSHOLES WERE ACTUALLY TORTURING PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THIS GOD OF E5EJAL SADISM AND REVENGE AND DARK EVERLASTING HATE.

Cause THATS what it would take for god to be what you say her is.

A.god of ETERNAL HATE AND HIDEOUS REVENGE..AND DARK TWISTED BLACKMAIL.

Your god is THE SAME GOD AS THE MUSLIMS...they too say allah will burn all unbeleivers in hell.

SO WHAT FUCKING DIFFERENCE IS THERE BETWEEN GOD AND ALLAH AS BOTH ARE BENT ON TORTURE AND REVENGE?
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NO.

You dont understand hell. It is horrible and people will be in agony because God has removed His hand from that area. People reject God so that is what He gives them. Life with without God intervening is hell.

Muslims do not worship the same God. They worship allah which is just a name change from baal. Modern day islam came from the pagan religion of baal from the OT.
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You are missing one important aspect in your little rant.

God is infinite and all powerful. So when YOU sin against Him, which every sin is against Him, then your sin against an eternal God is eternal. Therefor requires an eternal punishment. If it didnt then God wouldnt be Just.

Your analogy of a kid stealing from his father is wrong because the father isnt eternal or all powerful. In fact it is God who gave the Father the cookie in the first place. So the kid is really stealing from God.

Also you are not representing the full story here.

One more thought. Hell was not created for US. It was created for the Fallen angels and satan. BUT since you choose to reject God and Jesus the only place you can be apart from Him is in hell.
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So what ya saying is...if i was the PERFECT PARENT..i would be well within my rights to torture my children in hideous ways if they did something wrong?


A perfect parent would have perfect love too.

So...does perfect love also include torture?

Since when has causing untold horror and agony to someone been a demonstration of.perfect love?


You christians are without a doubt THE MOST EVIL HEARTED..CALLOUS..TWISTED..SADISTIC..FUCKED IN THE HEAD EVIL ANIMALS EVER TO STAIN THIS PLANET..besides the goatfuckers.

And it wasnt all that long ago that YOU HEARTLESS ASSHOLES WERE ACTUALLY TORTURING PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THIS GOD OF E5EJAL SADISM AND REVENGE AND DARK EVERLASTING HATE.

Cause THATS what it would take for god to be what you say her is.

A.god of ETERNAL HATE AND HIDEOUS REVENGE..AND DARK TWISTED BLACKMAIL.

Your god is THE SAME GOD AS THE MUSLIMS...they too say allah will burn all unbeleivers in hell.

SO WHAT FUCKING DIFFERENCE IS THERE BETWEEN GOD AND ALLAH AS BOTH ARE BENT ON TORTURE AND REVENGE?
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NO.

You dont understand hell. It is horrible and people will be in agony because God has removed His hand from that area. People reject God so that is what He gives them. Life with without God intervening is hell.

Muslims do not worship the same God. They worship allah which is just a name change from baal. Modern day islam came from the pagan religion of baal from the OT.
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So if god and allah are so different from eachother...


Why do BOTH of them use the SAME motivations on their followers?

Basically...its follow allah...or burn in hell...or follow god...or burn in hell.

Both gods claim they are loving.

Both gods claim to be the creator.

Both gods have issued decrees demanding the deaths of infidels.

Both gods threaten you with eternal torture.

So what is the damn difference?
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And answer came there none...^^^^
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The great flood marked the end of one of his great mistakes.
We are an example of another mistake.
He gave Adam a wife before Eve.
Her name was Lilith.
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The all is one and the one is all......You are god incarnated....we all are...everything is God.....everything in physical reality is made of the same particles.......Religion is designed to control the masses....I see it is working
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You are missing one important aspect in your little rant.

God is infinite and all powerful. So when YOU sin against Him, which every sin is against Him, then your sin against an eternal God is eternal. Therefor requires an eternal punishment. If it didnt then God wouldnt be Just.

Your analogy of a kid stealing from his father is wrong because the father isnt eternal or all powerful. In fact it is God who gave the Father the cookie in the first place. So the kid is really stealing from God.

Also you are not representing the full story here.

One more thought. Hell was not created for US. It was created for the Fallen angels and satan. BUT since you choose to reject God and Jesus the only place you can be apart from Him is in hell.
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So what ya saying is...if i was the PERFECT PARENT..i would be well within my rights to torture my children in hideous ways if they did something wrong?


A perfect parent would have perfect love too.

So...does perfect love also include torture?

Since when has causing untold horror and agony to someone been a demonstration of.perfect love?


You christians are without a doubt THE MOST EVIL HEARTED..CALLOUS..TWISTED..SADISTIC..FUCKED IN THE HEAD EVIL ANIMALS EVER TO STAIN THIS PLANET..besides the goatfuckers.

And it wasnt all that long ago that YOU HEARTLESS ASSHOLES WERE ACTUALLY TORTURING PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THIS GOD OF E5EJAL SADISM AND REVENGE AND DARK EVERLASTING HATE.

Cause THATS what it would take for god to be what you say her is.

A.god of ETERNAL HATE AND HIDEOUS REVENGE..AND DARK TWISTED BLACKMAIL.

Your god is THE SAME GOD AS THE MUSLIMS...they too say allah will burn all unbeleivers in hell.

SO WHAT FUCKING DIFFERENCE IS THERE BETWEEN GOD AND ALLAH AS BOTH ARE BENT ON TORTURE AND REVENGE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16659625


NO.

You dont understand hell. It is horrible and people will be in agony because God has removed His hand from that area. People reject God so that is what He gives them. Life with without God intervening is hell.

Muslims do not worship the same God. They worship allah which is just a name change from baal. Modern day islam came from the pagan religion of baal from the OT.
 Quoting: Cavjock12


So if god and allah are so different from eachother...


Why do BOTH of them use the SAME motivations on their followers?

Basically...its follow allah...or burn in hell...or follow god...or burn in hell.

Both gods claim they are loving.

Both gods claim to be the creator.

Both gods have issued decrees demanding the deaths of infidels.

Both gods threaten you with eternal torture.

So what is the damn difference?
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I see no difference.
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He?

pfff ....
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I believe I received an experimental "flu" vaccine that took god out of my life. Life has never been the same since. So knowing how my life has changed I can honestly say , that yes, god is nothing but nature, and it does make mistakes. And as an entity does at the very least allows them to happen.

I don't believe if there is a god, that it knows the exact future either. I do believe god is an entity that is along for the ride helping you to accept the things that cannot be changed, and at minimum helps you out if you stay within a positive frame of mind.

I do not believe there is an afterlife. Your time is now and that is all there is. You make the best of what you have, and try to leave the next generation in better shape than yourself. That is the whole of your existence, to be of help to others. If you can accept that, you will find peace and love on earth in this life time.
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You believe what? A vaccine removed god from your life? Fuck me, ive heard it all now! Of all the stupid shit i have read in this thread you take the cake....

I can see it now some "evil" pharmaceutical company sitting around in the board room.... Here folks we have the chemical to remove god from peoples lives "cue evil laughs"
Now we will put it in a flu vaccine & feed it to the public... As they chant HAIL SATAN! HAIL SATAN!


lol.....
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I believe I received an experimental "flu" vaccine that took god out of my life. Life has never been the same since. So knowing how my life has changed I can honestly say , that yes, god is nothing but nature, and it does make mistakes. And as an entity does at the very least allows them to happen.

I don't believe if there is a god, that it knows the exact future either. I do believe god is an entity that is along for the ride helping you to accept the things that cannot be changed, and at minimum helps you out if you stay within a positive frame of mind.

I do not believe there is an afterlife. Your time is now and that is all there is. You make the best of what you have, and try to leave the next generation in better shape than yourself. That is the whole of your existence, to be of help to others. If you can accept that, you will find peace and love on earth in this life time.
 Quoting: Hope Rising


You believe what? A vaccine removed god from your life? Fuck me, ive heard it all now! Of all the stupid shit i have read in this thread you take the cake....

I can see it now some "evil" pharmaceutical company sitting around in the board room.... Here folks we have the chemical to remove god from peoples lives "cue evil laughs"
Now we will put it in a flu vaccine & feed it to the public... As they chant HAIL SATAN! HAIL SATAN!


lol.....
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Many a true wors spoken in jest....
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this god guy sounds like a cunt
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Yep

a lot of contradictory babbling that outs OP as a brain dead church zombie.
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the only difference between Lucifer and Christ is that Lucifer thinks he isn't doing God's will.
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It all sounds suspiciously human to me.
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It all sounds suspiciously human to me.
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Probably because humans thought it all up.
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Look people!

Understand.

You might be able to communicate, think for yourselves etc... but the fact is damaged goods exist and need to be taken care of.

They can either (in this case) fix themselves (having the power of autonomy), be fixed or be discarded.

The choice is yours.

If you are bitter because you know you cannot turn away from the way you want to live (being lawless) ... who can you blame?

In a final analysis you can't blame anyone if others like you managed (given the exact same circumstances) to toe the line, change themselves or just obey the law.

Is this along with your choler and accusations - not proof that you are damaged?

And if you care about it so much... do the improbable: sacrifice that lifestyle for a better future. It's difficult if you keep complaining and don't start on the road back.

Just say: I'm never doing that (whatever it is) again... and don't. You slip up from time to time but with determination - within your lifetime claims based on your ex-vice will become unfounded.

In the end it's like an exam. You still have time to change those difficult answers right up until the end.
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May god guide the hand that holds the cold steel to deliver eternal sleep to those who fornicate with children as though they be adults.
May that be the end for them with swift compassion
They will not be coming back
May those hands wielding steel not suffer for their aim be just.
May that be the end for them and no lasting consequence of soul so smooth their brow of worry
By your grace

I have surfed a liquid molten environment as though a sun
Glorious doesn't describe it
In appreciation if this be a curse that one memory is gold
I also remember the last place they ended my memory stream

Agony for my kind is loving that which is all him and not touching him, that is torture.
Being free to hold love and no thought to abusing is bliss.
You know of nothing you bait yourself to speak little fish

This is not role play, this is how I wanted to speak and respond to you and your ignorant thread


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