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Copernica the Proud American User ID: 46380617 United States 03/22/2017 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should a sphere only expand/contract in one direction? There are only very few materials that have a different expansion coefficient in X,Y,Z direction and Earth is not one of them. Quoting: Hydra No sorry, don't work for me. . Some say we're in a bowl...so yes, we can curl up that way too. But I already told you, you're no fun to play with - and I wasn't asking you anyhow. So it doesn't matter if it works for you or not. So shoo!! God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! |
Boris Dragosani User ID: 17096484 United States 03/22/2017 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why should a sphere only expand/contract in one direction? There are only very few materials that have a different expansion coefficient in X,Y,Z direction and Earth is not one of them. Quoting: Hydra No sorry, don't work for me. . Some say we're in a bowl...so yes, we can curl up that way too. But I already told you, you're no fun to play with - and I wasn't asking you anyhow. So it doesn't matter if it works for you or not. So shoo!! So the continents and islands are like cereal and the oceans are like milk. Imagine the size of the kid that eats from this bowl. E Branch ain't got nothing on me. |
Hydra User ID: 74526568 Germany 03/22/2017 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't refer to NASA pictures - I refer to simple trigonometry and own observations. Quoting: Hydra Can you explain the points below? Don't be shy, you could be the first of your fellow flat earthers. * Explain different heights of Polaris above the north pole on different latitudes on a flat earth. * Explain why Polaris is not visible south of the equator - that it's visible up to the Tropic of Capricorn is a lie, 600 million people living in that area can confirm this. * Explain star trails around the south celestial pole with the south celestial pole in the image. * Explain transits of Venus and Mercury visible from places north and south of the equator at the same time. * Explain non total solar eclipses in the north polar region. * Explain the half sun during sunsets over the ocean, though the sun on a flat earth can never be below 8.4° above the horizon. * The distance from the north pole to the equator is known as 9,978 km. The length of the equator is known as 40,074 km. But the length of the equator on a flat earth is (2*r*pi) 2*6200*pi = 62,693.6 km. Explain the difference? Hydra, that's all you have. No, that's not all I have - I have a lot more, but I'm sure that's all over your head because you don't even get the points above. There are 200 proofs right here. Even with just 50% of the proofs in this video are correct it destroys the theory of a globe. You may not agree or you may think you've debunked some of the proofs in this video ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74357347 That are not 200 proofs, that's 200 times bullshit. I went through this and all the other Eric Dumbass videos and I can debunk every single of his "200 proofs". But I don't go through a gish gallopp here, we can do it one by one - pick one. ... but if even a fraction of the video is true, the globe is proven to be a lie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74357347 Same applies to your flat earth: Non of my points above is possible on a flat earth, thus the flat earth is a lie. Eric Dubai is a scammer. He knows that Polaris isn't visible south of the equator, he knows that star trails around the south celestial pole exists. He even has at least six photos of star trails around the south celestial pole on his website and he writes: "In other words, I see all the stars which these time exposures have recorded actually going around that navigational star that God put there for us in the Northern Hemisphere. Remember: the first two pictures are eight hour exposures. Again, look closely and you can see the third of a circle in the center and in the next star trail or so. This means that each star circles in one 24 hour day. The same thing is captured in circumpolar photos taken in the Southern Hemisphere." Eric Dubay is deceiving you, he makes money wirh the gullible. DEBUNK THEM THEN. What didn't you understand im my sentence: "But I don't go through a gish gallopp here, we can do it one by one - pick one." . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Boris Dragosani User ID: 17096484 United States 03/22/2017 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the continents and islands are like cereal and the oceans are like milk. Quoting: Boris Dragosani Imagine the size of the kid that eats from this bowl. Titan-ic? Maybe it's Chtulu-ic! Last Edited by Boris Dragosani on 03/22/2017 08:16 PM E Branch ain't got nothing on me. |
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Copernica the Proud American User ID: 46380617 United States 03/22/2017 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the continents and islands are like cereal and the oceans are like milk. Quoting: Boris Dragosani Imagine the size of the kid that eats from this bowl. Titan-ic? Maybe it's Chtulu-ic! Chtulu isn't THAT big! LOL But it sure could ruin your cheerios. God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! |
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Boris Dragosani User ID: 17096484 United States 03/22/2017 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the continents and islands are like cereal and the oceans are like milk. Quoting: Boris Dragosani Imagine the size of the kid that eats from this bowl. Titan-ic? Maybe it's Chtulu-ic! Chtulu isn't THAT big! LOL But it sure could ruin your cheerios. Especially when you're the Cheerios. E Branch ain't got nothing on me. |
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Hydra User ID: 74533520 Germany 03/22/2017 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have enough money, and the right connections, sure. But you won't be allowed to tell anyone. No comment on this in the other thread? If you go and dig. There are exactly THREE non-composite non-enhanced non-filtered photographs of earth. Quoting: Copernica the Proud American I just went looking and found one of them. [link to www.planetary.org] The other two are only marginally clearer. Being slightly bluer, larger, clearer pixels. I found another one: [link to www.planetary.org] Photo taken by the Russian Zond-7 moon mission with a Kiev Arsenal SKD-01 medium format camera [link to collectiblend.com] , equipped with a 300 mm lens on colour film at August 9, 1969. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73836682 United States 03/22/2017 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I do not believe it's flat, I'm open to others perceptions. Why do you think it's flat? And what about the other planets, do you believe they are flat too? Why does a ship not fall off the edge of the Earth? I'm not mocking you, I just want to hear the justification. If it's convincing I may investigate further. |
Copernica the Proud American User ID: 46380617 United States 03/22/2017 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have enough money, and the right connections, sure. But you won't be allowed to tell anyone. No comment on this in the other thread? If you go and dig. There are exactly THREE non-composite non-enhanced non-filtered photographs of earth. Quoting: Copernica the Proud American I just went looking and found one of them. [link to www.planetary.org] The other two are only marginally clearer. Being slightly bluer, larger, clearer pixels. I found another one: [link to www.planetary.org] Photo taken by the Russian Zond-7 moon mission with a Kiev Arsenal SKD-01 medium format camera [link to collectiblend.com] , equipped with a 300 mm lens on colour film at August 9, 1969. . Which other thread? And do I have to repeat myself everywhere? And yes, I saw that part. still doesn't cover processing and the dates and other info normally included on photographs. And where are the other photos? Processing data is REALLY important. They can do all kinds of things that effect the final picture. We have none of the information. As I said, all the good "earth" pictures are ALWAYS missing key data to authenticate them. That's why we're still sitting at only THREE very hazy mega long distance pixel shots and a whole lotta enhanced and composite shots. God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! |
Copernica the Proud American User ID: 46380617 United States 03/22/2017 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I do not believe it's flat, I'm open to others perceptions. Why do you think it's flat? And what about the other planets, do you believe they are flat too? Why does a ship not fall off the edge of the Earth? I'm not mocking you, I just want to hear the justification. If it's convincing I may investigate further. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73836682 There is so much information available - my suggestion is to just start your own journey. Lots of theories, lots of videos, lots of reading. Spend an evening and just click around. Keep an open mind. Some stuff if more math oriented, some more science, some more esoteric & spritual. Others lay out the various theories. Follow what matches your interests best and just follow the tangents it takes you on. There's no right or wrong way down the rabbit hole. Search for Flat Earth and pick a link. Have fun with it. It's really an intriguing trip. It WILL change the way you look at world. If not literally....it will figuratively. God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! |
Boris Dragosani User ID: 17096484 United States 03/22/2017 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's easier to believe the earth is flat than round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7227274 If you're a ball earther you've been thoroughly indoctrinated and are an exceptionable citizen. If you're a flat earther, you've shown a tendency to think and might not be a good citizen and will have to be killed. Actually, flat earth heads burned alive Giordano Bruno for asserting the Earth was round. No one, not one person has ever been murdered by globe Earthers for asserting the planet as flat. Give me some more baloney to throw back in your face, dipstick. the Babylonians got him Lol. That's why if you take out the by it becomes "Balonians." The inquisition was run by Balonians. E Branch ain't got nothing on me. |
Hydra User ID: 74533520 Germany 03/22/2017 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have enough money, and the right connections, sure. But you won't be allowed to tell anyone. No comment on this in the other thread? If you go and dig. There are exactly THREE non-composite non-enhanced non-filtered photographs of earth. Quoting: Copernica the Proud American I just went looking and found one of them. [link to www.planetary.org] The other two are only marginally clearer. Being slightly bluer, larger, clearer pixels. I found another one: [link to www.planetary.org] Photo taken by the Russian Zond-7 moon mission with a Kiev Arsenal SKD-01 medium format camera [link to collectiblend.com] , equipped with a 300 mm lens on colour film at August 9, 1969. Which other thread? And do I have to repeat myself everywhere? Sorry, saw to late that you already had replied. And yes, I saw that part. still doesn't cover processing and the dates and other info normally included on photographs. And where are the other photos? Processing data is REALLY important. They can do all kinds of things that effect the final picture. We have none of the information. Quoting: Copernica the Proud American As I said, all the good "earth" pictures are ALWAYS missing key data to authenticate them. That's why we're still sitting at only THREE very hazy mega long distance pixel shots and a whole lotta enhanced and composite shots. Processing doesn't matter - you can't make a globe from a flat earth by processing a film. Dates are given in the link. Other photos don't matter, one photo of the globe disproves the flat earth. - Btw.: You yourself gave a link to more Zond-7 photos in the other thread: [link to mentallandscape.com] Other data? * No NASA * Film material, not digital * No personal computers in 1969 * No Photoshop in 1969 . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Nefarious Libertine User ID: 73541692 United States 03/22/2017 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think flat earther's lack any critical thinking skills, and common fucking sense. They say have an open mind, well some things aren't open to debate. 2+2=4 It's not open to debate and to try and debate it makes you a moron on the highest order. Might as well debate there is no ice in Antarctica, it's really all mashed potatoes.Miles thick of mashed potatoes. Looks like creamy mashed potatoes. The Ice walls are the stiffer kind that peak up. We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be: The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence. Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty. The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE |
Copernica the Proud American User ID: 46380617 United States 03/22/2017 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Processing doesn't matter - you can't make a globe from a flat earth by processing a film. Quoting: Hydra Dates are given in the link. Other photos don't matter, one photo of the globe disproves the flat earth. - Btw.: You yourself gave a link to more Zond-7 photos in the other thread: [link to mentallandscape.com] Other data? * No NASA * Film material, not digital * No personal computers in 1969 * No Photoshop in 1969 . Last time. There's all kinds of manipulation that can be done to photos in the processing. And there is ZERO proof that they were taken in space. There's still plenty of debate of the moon landing from the same time and all the pictures that they took. When the entire description of the these missions consists of 2 paragraphs each. And most of the pictures are missing. One whole missions worth of photos are damaged. Plus none of the processing data is available. There is just not enough factual data to call them proof of anything. Again, every single time we have nice pictures of earth - there's something wrong with them. Lack of information, or their touched up in some way (filters, composite, colored, etc.). It's really frustrating. They take a picture of a damn oak leaf and we know every piece of data about it. Every camera setting, film, processor, processing equipment, distance from the lens, to it's precise gps coordinates, species sub-type, time of day, weather and things we don't even need to know. But a monumental event of a perfect picture of earth from outer space supposedly taken from a single camera? They can't even tell us which of the two days it was from? GRRRRR!!! Annoying! So. Back to 3 worthless fuzzy pixels where they do at least provide the proper details. God Bless President TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74535416 Sweden 03/23/2017 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when Astro can't debunk it they delete the thread or block it like this Thread: Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59487110 Canada 03/23/2017 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when Astro can't debunk it they delete the thread or block it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74535416 like this Thread: Gyroscopes Proves Flat Earth - Case Closed ! Exactly. He can't debunk the fact rockets can't work in a vacuum either |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32826373 United States 03/23/2017 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The earth is like 2 contact lenses which turmoil and that is why it covers its own top layer cycling through transitions, pressures, exposures and time. The magnetic poles happen due to the cylinder affect of a bent flat surface. Byrd drew some ideas to explain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32826373 United States 03/23/2017 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The earth is like 2 contact lenses which turmoil and that is why it covers its own top layer cycling through transitions, pressures, exposures and time. The magnetic poles happen due to the cylinder affect of a bent flat surface. Byrd drew some ideas to explain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32826373 Most people think black and white when this subject might be grey. |
Hydra User ID: 74533520 Germany 03/23/2017 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Processing doesn't matter - you can't make a globe from a flat earth by processing a film. Quoting: Hydra Dates are given in the link. Other photos don't matter, one photo of the globe disproves the flat earth. - Btw.: You yourself gave a link to more Zond-7 photos in the other thread: [link to mentallandscape.com] Other data? * No NASA * Film material, not digital * No personal computers in 1969 * No Photoshop in 1969 Last time. There's all kinds of manipulation that can be done to photos in the processing. And there is ZERO proof that they were taken in space. There's still plenty of debate of the moon landing from the same time and all the pictures that they took. When the entire description of the these missions consists of 2 paragraphs each. And most of the pictures are missing. One whole missions worth of photos are damaged. Plus none of the processing data is available. There is just not enough factual data to call them proof of anything. Again, every single time we have nice pictures of earth - there's something wrong with them. Lack of information, or their touched up in some way (filters, composite, colored, etc.). It's really frustrating. They take a picture of a damn oak leaf and we know every piece of data about it. Every camera setting, film, processor, processing equipment, distance from the lens, to it's precise gps coordinates, species sub-type, time of day, weather and things we don't even need to know. But a monumental event of a perfect picture of earth from outer space supposedly taken from a single camera? They can't even tell us which of the two days it was from? GRRRRR!!! Annoying! So. Back to 3 worthless fuzzy pixels where they do at least provide the proper details. May be we have different perceptions about "processing". Thus it would be nice, if you explain what kinds of manipulation can be done to photos in the processing. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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