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Michael Flynn's request for immunity in Trump-Russia probe 'rejected by Senate Intelligence Committee'

Mr Flynn's legal team have been told that immunity is 'not on the table'
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Is this good or bad?
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This news will probably bring on a sudden case of amnesia.tounge
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According to sherriff clarke on twitter, flynn never asked for immunity.
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Fake 4D chess.
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CBC say, too early to seek immunity.

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so sick of all the lying demons
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Lulz, I heard Schiff give a sound bit about immunities with investigations this high in the government are dangerous. Uh huh, how many immuntities in Hillary email were given? 3? 4? Don't forget about the lawyer client priviledge because all the sudden hillaries aides are now her lawyers, so you can't make a lawyer testify against their client.

But ya let's complain about someone ALREADY investigated by the FBI and found to be clear.
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178 D chess right there
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I can't imagine there is any meat to this as we would've heard more specific allegations than just screaming "Russia!"

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Lulz, I heard Schiff give a sound bit about immunities with investigations this high in the government are dangerous. Uh huh, how many immuntities in Hillary email were given? 3? 4? Don't forget about the lawyer client priviledge because all the sudden hillaries aides are now her lawyers, so you can't make a lawyer testify against their client.

But ya let's complain about someone ALREADY investigated by the FBI and found to be clear.
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Re: boom! Michael Flynn's request for immunity has been 'turned down'
First, Flynn never asked for immunity.

Second, President Trump tweeted about immunity to bring BACK OUT, and make people remember, all the people given immunity concerning the investigation into Hillary.

Third, the Dems now saying that immunity was turned down, is a hoax, and a talking point because they KNOW, that there is no dirt on President Trump.

It is a nothing story all around...EXCEPT that now we are talking about Hillary's peoples immunities
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All according to the non plan
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What's with all the Liberal #FakeNews being posted and pinned lately?
Is GLP being flooded by the left again?

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General Mike Flynn and "immunity" - game theory exposes #FakeNews again
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CBC say, too early to seek immunity.

[link to www.cbc.ca]
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The CBC (Communist Broadcast Corporation) is a state funded rag.
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Re: boom! Michael Flynn's request for immunity has been 'turned down'
There are two types of immunity: Use Immunity and Transactional Immunity.

Under Use Immunity, a witness’s testimony cannot be used to convict him in a court of law. But if prosecutors find alternative evidence of the crime, they can use that to convict the witness.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The prosecutors cannot go find the Funyun bag in his garage and use it as evidence against him. BUT, if Cletus’s accomplice Jebediah has an attack of the guilts and tells the PoPo that he and Cletus done robbed the Piggly Wiggly and the money’s in Cletus’s garage, then the police can use it as evidence in court to convict Cletus for the robbery.

Under Transactional Immunity, a witness cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies to.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The police arrest his accomplice Jebediah. Jebediah goes to jail. Cletus eats the Funyuns and goes free.

Congress can grant Use Immunity for testimony, but only the Justice Department (which Flynn apparently approached too!) can grant Transactional Immunity which protects the witness from ever being prosecuted for crimes he admits under testimony.

Flynn’s lawyers approached the FBI to ask for transactional immunity as regards anything he testifies to before Congress. Presumably, the FBI said something like, “ROFLMAO!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Dipshit, we already have you. You were stupid enough to commit all your crimes on a recorded phone line. GTFOH.”

When he tried get Use Immunity from Congress, he probably received a response along the lines of, “Boy, you are dumber than Nunes! We’ve already seen the transcripts of your calls. WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS! Now, GTFOH.”

This is why Flynn’s lawyer Robert Kelner is taking to Twitter to say his client has SOMETHING OMG YOOOOOGE to share with Congress if they will only prettyplease promise not to put him in jail for being a habitual criminal.

Here is a markup of Kelner's letter with some 'splaining.

[link to img.wonkette.com (secure)]

So it looks like Flynn won’t be testifying any time soon, since no one is willing to grant him immunity. If subpoenaed before Congress, he can just sit there and plead the 5th to all questions. Which is horrible optics for the White House, but is a whole lot better than having him testify against them.

So, a win for Trumpland? But the day’s only half over, so …


Read more at [link to wonkette.com (secure)]
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What does this shit even mean ffs They are just words on the internet.

Immunity from what? Turned down from what and why?

I have had enough
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There are two types of immunity: Use Immunity and Transactional Immunity.

Under Use Immunity, a witness’s testimony cannot be used to convict him in a court of law. But if prosecutors find alternative evidence of the crime, they can use that to convict the witness.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The prosecutors cannot go find the Funyun bag in his garage and use it as evidence against him. BUT, if Cletus’s accomplice Jebediah has an attack of the guilts and tells the PoPo that he and Cletus done robbed the Piggly Wiggly and the money’s in Cletus’s garage, then the police can use it as evidence in court to convict Cletus for the robbery.

Under Transactional Immunity, a witness cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies to.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The police arrest his accomplice Jebediah. Jebediah goes to jail. Cletus eats the Funyuns and goes free.

Congress can grant Use Immunity for testimony, but only the Justice Department (which Flynn apparently approached too!) can grant Transactional Immunity which protects the witness from ever being prosecuted for crimes he admits under testimony.

Flynn’s lawyers approached the FBI to ask for transactional immunity as regards anything he testifies to before Congress. Presumably, the FBI said something like, “ROFLMAO!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Dipshit, we already have you. You were stupid enough to commit all your crimes on a recorded phone line. GTFOH.”

When he tried get Use Immunity from Congress, he probably received a response along the lines of, “Boy, you are dumber than Nunes! We’ve already seen the transcripts of your calls. WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS! Now, GTFOH.”

This is why Flynn’s lawyer Robert Kelner is taking to Twitter to say his client has SOMETHING OMG YOOOOOGE to share with Congress if they will only prettyplease promise not to put him in jail for being a habitual criminal.

Here is a markup of Kelner's letter with some 'splaining.

[link to img.wonkette.com (secure)]

So it looks like Flynn won’t be testifying any time soon, since no one is willing to grant him immunity. If subpoenaed before Congress, he can just sit there and plead the 5th to all questions. Which is horrible optics for the White House, but is a whole lot better than having him testify against them.

So, a win for Trumpland? But the day’s only half over, so …


Read more at [link to wonkette.com (secure)]
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This is left wing bullshit. Flynn did absolutely NOTHING wrong and had every right to talk to any Russians he wanted to. Funny how Wonkette would never write about the Clintons making bank on their REAL dirty deals with Russians.
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The left didn't want him to have immunity so he couldn't spill all the beans publicly on them! Now he will just plead the fifth.
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Trump is a class A bullshitter, and Fox News is a class B propaganda network, but this operation called for military precision, with the Trump team working the crowd while the Russians hacked Democrats and infiltrated right wing websites, all coordinated for maximum psychological effect. It really looks like a military intelligence operation, which happens to be Flynn's expertise. Also too, don't forget Trump employed Cambridge Analytica, which specializes in weapons of mass persuasion. Even now, Trump's group is still running a rear-guard disinformation campaign to blunt the effect of the facts coming out. He'll still be hollering 'Fake News' as they run him out of town.
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Re: boom! Michael Flynn's request for immunity has been 'turned down'
There are two types of immunity: Use Immunity and Transactional Immunity.

Under Use Immunity, a witness’s testimony cannot be used to convict him in a court of law. But if prosecutors find alternative evidence of the crime, they can use that to convict the witness.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The prosecutors cannot go find the Funyun bag in his garage and use it as evidence against him. BUT, if Cletus’s accomplice Jebediah has an attack of the guilts and tells the PoPo that he and Cletus done robbed the Piggly Wiggly and the money’s in Cletus’s garage, then the police can use it as evidence in court to convict Cletus for the robbery.

Under Transactional Immunity, a witness cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies to.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The police arrest his accomplice Jebediah. Jebediah goes to jail. Cletus eats the Funyuns and goes free.

Congress can grant Use Immunity for testimony, but only the Justice Department (which Flynn apparently approached too!) can grant Transactional Immunity which protects the witness from ever being prosecuted for crimes he admits under testimony.

Flynn’s lawyers approached the FBI to ask for transactional immunity as regards anything he testifies to before Congress. Presumably, the FBI said something like, “ROFLMAO!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Dipshit, we already have you. You were stupid enough to commit all your crimes on a recorded phone line. GTFOH.”

When he tried get Use Immunity from Congress, he probably received a response along the lines of, “Boy, you are dumber than Nunes! We’ve already seen the transcripts of your calls. WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS! Now, GTFOH.”

This is why Flynn’s lawyer Robert Kelner is taking to Twitter to say his client has SOMETHING OMG YOOOOOGE to share with Congress if they will only prettyplease promise not to put him in jail for being a habitual criminal.

Here is a markup of Kelner's letter with some 'splaining.

[link to img.wonkette.com (secure)]

So it looks like Flynn won’t be testifying any time soon, since no one is willing to grant him immunity. If subpoenaed before Congress, he can just sit there and plead the 5th to all questions. Which is horrible optics for the White House, but is a whole lot better than having him testify against them.

So, a win for Trumpland? But the day’s only half over, so …

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So in this analogy, Cleatus is Flynn, Jebediah is Jared, bag of Funyuns is Manafort's laundery, the garage is Vnesheconombank, $427 is ₽11.2 billion, the Piggly Wiggly is the US Treasury, and the police are the FBI. Did I do that right?
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There are two types of immunity: Use Immunity and Transactional Immunity.

Under Use Immunity, a witness’s testimony cannot be used to convict him in a court of law. But if prosecutors find alternative evidence of the crime, they can use that to convict the witness.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The prosecutors cannot go find the Funyun bag in his garage and use it as evidence against him. BUT, if Cletus’s accomplice Jebediah has an attack of the guilts and tells the PoPo that he and Cletus done robbed the Piggly Wiggly and the money’s in Cletus’s garage, then the police can use it as evidence in court to convict Cletus for the robbery.

Under Transactional Immunity, a witness cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies to.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The police arrest his accomplice Jebediah. Jebediah goes to jail. Cletus eats the Funyuns and goes free.

Congress can grant Use Immunity for testimony, but only the Justice Department (which Flynn apparently approached too!) can grant Transactional Immunity which protects the witness from ever being prosecuted for crimes he admits under testimony.

Flynn’s lawyers approached the FBI to ask for transactional immunity as regards anything he testifies to before Congress. Presumably, the FBI said something like, “ROFLMAO!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Dipshit, we already have you. You were stupid enough to commit all your crimes on a recorded phone line. GTFOH.”

When he tried get Use Immunity from Congress, he probably received a response along the lines of, “Boy, you are dumber than Nunes! We’ve already seen the transcripts of your calls. WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS! Now, GTFOH.”

This is why Flynn’s lawyer Robert Kelner is taking to Twitter to say his client has SOMETHING OMG YOOOOOGE to share with Congress if they will only prettyplease promise not to put him in jail for being a habitual criminal.

Here is a markup of Kelner's letter with some 'splaining.

[link to img.wonkette.com (secure)]

So it looks like Flynn won’t be testifying any time soon, since no one is willing to grant him immunity. If subpoenaed before Congress, he can just sit there and plead the 5th to all questions. Which is horrible optics for the White House, but is a whole lot better than having him testify against them.

So, a win for Trumpland? But the day’s only half over, so …


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This is left wing bullshit. Flynn did absolutely NOTHING wrong and had every right to talk to any Russians he wanted to. Funny how Wonkette would never write about the Clintons making bank on their REAL dirty deals with Russians.
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Question:

If Flynn did "absolutely NOTHING wrong", such as being an agent for Turkey without the legally required notification, why does he want immunity in order to testify

Like Donald said last year:

"If you're not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for?"
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Michael Flynn's request for immunity in Trump-Russia probe 'rejected by Senate Intelligence Committee'

Mr Flynn's legal team have been told that immunity is 'not on the table'
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More fake news. Nice try shill.
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Lulz, I heard Schiff give a sound bit about immunities with investigations this high in the government are dangerous. Uh huh, how many immuntities in Hillary email were given? 3? 4? Don't forget about the lawyer client priviledge because all the sudden hillaries aides are now her lawyers, so you can't make a lawyer testify against their client.

But ya let's complain about someone ALREADY investigated by the FBI and found to be clear.
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Yep. All her aides given immunity and barely a peep out of the media about it. The hypocrisy of the left and the media is ASTOUNDING.
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The title to the article is misleading.
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Michael Flynn's request for immunity in Trump-Russia probe 'rejected by Senate Intelligence Committee'

Mr Flynn's legal team have been told that immunity is 'not on the table'
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More fake news. Nice try shill.
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Flynn never asked for immunity. I have seen the letter sent to
the committee and it does not ask for it, elude to it, etc..

Another liberal web of bullshit.
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There are two types of immunity: Use Immunity and Transactional Immunity.

Under Use Immunity, a witness’s testimony cannot be used to convict him in a court of law. But if prosecutors find alternative evidence of the crime, they can use that to convict the witness.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The prosecutors cannot go find the Funyun bag in his garage and use it as evidence against him. BUT, if Cletus’s accomplice Jebediah has an attack of the guilts and tells the PoPo that he and Cletus done robbed the Piggly Wiggly and the money’s in Cletus’s garage, then the police can use it as evidence in court to convict Cletus for the robbery.

Under Transactional Immunity, a witness cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies to.

Example: Cletus testifies before Congress that he robbed the Piggly Wiggly and hid the $427 in a bag of Funyuns. The police arrest his accomplice Jebediah. Jebediah goes to jail. Cletus eats the Funyuns and goes free.

Congress can grant Use Immunity for testimony, but only the Justice Department (which Flynn apparently approached too!) can grant Transactional Immunity which protects the witness from ever being prosecuted for crimes he admits under testimony.

Flynn’s lawyers approached the FBI to ask for transactional immunity as regards anything he testifies to before Congress. Presumably, the FBI said something like, “ROFLMAO!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Dipshit, we already have you. You were stupid enough to commit all your crimes on a recorded phone line. GTFOH.”

When he tried get Use Immunity from Congress, he probably received a response along the lines of, “Boy, you are dumber than Nunes! We’ve already seen the transcripts of your calls. WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS! Now, GTFOH.”

This is why Flynn’s lawyer Robert Kelner is taking to Twitter to say his client has SOMETHING OMG YOOOOOGE to share with Congress if they will only prettyplease promise not to put him in jail for being a habitual criminal.

Here is a markup of Kelner's letter with some 'splaining.

[link to img.wonkette.com (secure)]

So it looks like Flynn won’t be testifying any time soon, since no one is willing to grant him immunity. If subpoenaed before Congress, he can just sit there and plead the 5th to all questions. Which is horrible optics for the White House, but is a whole lot better than having him testify against them.

So, a win for Trumpland? But the day’s only half over, so …


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This is left wing bullshit. Flynn did absolutely NOTHING wrong and had every right to talk to any Russians he wanted to. Funny how Wonkette would never write about the Clintons making bank on their REAL dirty deals with Russians.
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Question:

If Flynn did "absolutely NOTHING wrong", such as being an agent for Turkey without the legally required notification, why does he want immunity in order to testify

Like Donald said last year:

"If you're not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for?"
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"absolutely NOTHING wrong"

Now we get into word play. Is failing to fill out a disclosure wrong in the same way as having special access programs on an unsecured server is wrong?

Maybe Flynn was just careless. You know, the Comey excuse for Hillary.
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Is this good or bad?
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It means they already have the evidence they're looking for, and don't need his testimony. He fucked.





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