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Disappearing UFOs - Sightings have fallen off so much, many UFO groups are closing their doors.
I am posting this as a new thread for all the dumb asses who said BS in my thread above:

Mystery...Before everyone had a cell (camera) phone......everyone saw UFO's.

This comes from a UFO site. About Facts Net.


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Disappearing UFOs

What is going on around the world? UFO sightings have fallen off significantly, to the point that even some ufo groups are closing their doors for lack of sightings. I am not saying that there are no ufo sightings anymore, but I am saying that there are a lot less and in some areas hardly any. Why, all of a sudden, would sightings just stop in some places? I guess this would depend on what you believe in the first place. If you believe that ufos are experimental secret aircraft then you have to conclude one of several things:

1. The budget crisis in this country has caused us to cut back on the flights and development of these type of aircraft
2. We have been working feverishly on visual camouflage for planes and maybe we succeeded and there are just as many flights as always but we can't see them.
3. Maybe the public is getting weary of ufos and doesn't look to the skies as much anymore.

If you are a believer, or at least someone that suspects that some ufos are extraterrestrial, then you may have to conclude:

1. Maybe the aliens are losing interest in us for some unknown reason
2. Maybe they have decided to hide their craft better from our prying eyes, after all there have been reports that indicate that many hidden ufos become visible during an eclipse for some reason.
3. Maybe the aliens have accomplished their objective and have cut the size of their forces.
4. Maybe the aliens all moved to other places of interest of which there are less. If you saw hundreds of ufos in one spot that might be only one sighting statistically, and counted the same as if you saw one ufo somewhere else.

Could it be that people around the world are getting so sophisticated that many things that were mistakenly identified as ufos are now realized for what they are, such as balloons, blimps and planes. I really don't think that this is the case but I thought that I would throw this out as a possibility.

Another theory is that we are just in a statistical valley and the amount of sightings may increase in the future. If one were to look at statistics for ufo sightings in 1950 they would notice that there were only 338 which was less than two thirds of what it was in 1947, so there is some historical precedence for the numbers falling. Amounts of sightings do change from year to year. In 1967 the Air Force experienced what was called the Great Wave of sightings. NICAP (National Investigations Committee On Aerial Phenomena) received 3,340 reports of ufo sightings. It was felt that 273 of these sightings could not be explained. This was an increase from the year before, 1966, in which the organization had experienced the second largest flood of ufo reports, 1,112 of which hundreds of cases were unexplained.

Does our environment account for sightings. Just for fun I checked the movies released in 1967 and couldn't find a big SciFi Movie. The same was true for 1966. Next I went to books for 1967 There wasn't much here either except for Logan's Run which really wasn't about ufos but more about a dark future for the Earth. In 1966 there were best sellers titled The Menace From Earth, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, Planet of Exile and Rocannon's World. Could these stories have sparked enough interest in the heavens to create the second and first greatest wave of ufo sightings? Your guess is as good as mine, but while it is possible, I think a big film would have generated more interest.

Many sightings have been reported around the India, Chinese borders. Could the concentration of ufos have moved to that area? Some people are saying that they have seen ufos going under the ground there. Another spot that seems to be active is the area in the ocean where there is volcanic activity. Again people state that they have seen ufos diving into the water. This is not as unusual as it sounds as a ufo was chased by the Americans and Canadians under the water for about a week at Shag Harbor in 1967. It had seemed that the ufo was damaged but over time it was able to repair itself and take off again. Divers who were sent down said off the record, that it was not from earth. As a matter of information, Canada averaged about 470+ sightings for years, until this year when the sightings seem to be decreasing, but we won't know for sure until the year is over and the statistics come out.

The number of ufo sightings in Norway has fallen to an all time low of 13. The year before there had been 26 sightings and this was down from previous years. It strange, but I still get reports on the internet that some areas that have less sightings really have more. I don't understand this conflict in statistics unless some ufo groups are trying to keep interest up. The British Flying Saucer Bureau was a fifty year old organization that recently shut down because there were so few ufo sightings. Less and less people came to the monthly meetings until it just wasn't worth while holding them anymore.

A recent study suggests that ufo sightings decrease in the winter. This is a new one on me. Could it be that people just do not sit outside in the winter and therefore don't check the sky as much? Even the famous Steven Spielberg is cited as being puzzled by the fact that ufo sightings have decreased from twenty years ago, or so it is said. I have no proof that Mr. Speilberg actually feels this way, but it was said he did. It goes on to say that we now have such advanced technology that enables us to record ufos that this make the decreases even more mysterious.

So what is happing? Why aren't those hundreds of millions of video cameras and digital cameras capturing images of ufos? As I said before, your guess is as good as mine?
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Haven't you been paying attention? There have been MAJOR sightings all over the world...Chicago, Arizona, Australia, India. Pay attention.
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Haven't you been paying attention? There have been MAJOR sightings all over the world...Chicago, Arizona, Australia, India. Pay attention.
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Sure there has been major sightings.

But overall, sightings are decreasing,,,,not increasing.

You just want to argue with me Heidi.

Get me some proof, a chart showing sightings year by year with them increasing since the 50's.
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Haven't you been paying attention? There have been MAJOR sightings all over the world...Chicago, Arizona, Australia, India. Pay attention.



Sure there has been major sightings.

But overall, sightings are decreasing,,,,not increasing.

You just want to argue with me Heidi.

Get me some proof, a chart showing sightings year by year with them increasing since the 50's.
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How can I give you a bloody chart?

There are many that go unreported...people that are too embarrassed to come forward, etc. How the hell can you chart something that is subjective?
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Haven't you been paying attention? There have been MAJOR sightings all over the world...Chicago, Arizona, Australia, India. Pay attention.



Sure there has been major sightings.

But overall, sightings are decreasing,,,,not increasing.

You just want to argue with me Heidi.

Get me some proof, a chart showing sightings year by year with them increasing since the 50's.


How can I give you a bloody chart?

There are many that go unreported...people that are too embarrassed to come forward, etc. How the hell can you chart something that is subjective?
 Quoting: HeidiLore



I am sure there are some reputable UFO groups who track sightings and record them on some data base.

I presented an article from a reputable UFO group who says they are decreasing.

You say BS.

What do you have to support your BS?
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check out this ice crystal doing high speed turning:

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I have never reported mine to a any major group. Why? Because they are all run by government guys. I ufos quite often in my area.
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I am sure there are some reputable UFO groups who track sightings and record them on some data base.

I presented an article from a reputable UFO group who says they are decreasing.

You say BS.

What do you have to support your BS?
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I just explained to you why. It's not my fault you have a comprehension problem...incidentally, what do you consider a reputable UFO group? Please explain your criteria for making such a decision.
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I believe I can see the future, 'cause I repeat the same routine. I think I used to have a purpose, but then again, it might have been a dream
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Haven't you been paying attention? There have been MAJOR sightings all over the world...Chicago, Arizona, Australia, India. Pay attention.



Sure there has been major sightings.

But overall, sightings are decreasing,,,,not increasing.

You just want to argue with me Heidi.

Get me some proof, a chart showing sightings year by year with them increasing since the 50's.


How can I give you a bloody chart?

There are many that go unreported...people that are too embarrassed to come forward, etc. How the hell can you chart something that is subjective?



I am sure there are some reputable UFO groups who track sightings and record them on some data base.

I presented an article from a reputable UFO group who says they are decreasing.

You say BS.

What do you have to support your BS?
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link?
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PACNWguy trying to prove that he is not a CIA psy-op...
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Re: Disappearing UFOs - Sightings have fallen off so much, many UFO groups are closing their doors.
I am sure there are some reputable UFO groups who track sightings and record them on some data base.

I presented an article from a reputable UFO group who says they are decreasing.

You say BS.

What do you have to support your BS?


I just explained to you why. It's not my fault you have a comprehension problem...incidentally, what do you consider a reputable UFO group? Please explain your criteria for making such a decision.
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I dont have a comprehension problem Heidi.

You say sightings are increasing rather than decreasing over the past couple of decades.

What do you base that on? Just a personal hunch or some shit?
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[link to www.ufomaps.com]



Go back from all the way to the 50's till now and you will see how much sightings have increased over the years.
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I dont have a comprehension problem Heidi.

You say sightings are increasing rather than decreasing over the past couple of decades.

What do you base that on? Just a personal hunch or some shit?
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Obviously, you DO have a comprehension problem. NOT ONCE in this thread did I say they were increasing. I merely asked you to explain your intentions. You posted a link, I asked you questions, I wanted you to formulate your own opinions.
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It could be that individual sightings are down but the number of mass sightings with video evidence is up.
Overall this has the impact of increased public awareness and probably an actual increase in the number of individual witnesses to each event.
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Also here is the same link someone already posted in your other pointless thread. As you can see, from the 50's till now, they have increased big time

[link to www.nuforc.org]
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Hello,
I would like to interject if you don't mind. I am the webmaster of [link to Aboutfacts.net.] I am the author of the article that was posted. Let me make a couple of observations if I may. First I am not part of a ufo group, this is my personal website. Second, you are both right. When the article was written ufo sightings had declined for a couple of years to a low point that affected some ufo organizations, but now sightings have started to increase again and in a big way. They seem to be appearing in places where many people can see them.

Hope this helps you guys/gals with your debate.

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the ufos go out to the system because galactic tzunamy arrive

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Re: Disappearing UFOs - Sightings have fallen off so much, many UFO groups are closing their doors.
UFO sightings has not decreased over time according to NUFORC (National UFO Reporting Center Report Index by Posting Date) database.

[link to www.nuforc.org]

The camera phone was invented in 1997, the chart below still high amounts of sightings after 1997.

The most sightings reported were on 11/02/1999, 08/05/2001, 10/30/2006, ALL AFTER 1997 so, you are incorrect again Pacman.



Reports Count
02/24/2007 293
02/01/2007 945
12/14/2006 106
12/07/2006 601
10/30/2006 1582
07/16/2006 729
05/15/2006 938
03/11/2006 318
02/14/2006 671
12/16/2005 587
11/08/2005 114
11/03/2005 253
10/20/2005 169
10/11/2005 810
09/15/2005 133
09/02/2005 683
07/15/2005 34
07/13/2005 134
07/05/2005 226
06/20/2005 288
05/28/2005 46
05/24/2005 510
05/11/2005 553
04/16/2005 543
02/24/2005 44
02/22/2005 180
02/08/2005 159
01/27/2005 66
01/19/2005 187
01/11/2005 168
12/14/2004 167
12/03/2004 306
11/09/2004 116
11/02/2004 159
10/27/2004 351
09/29/2004 295
09/09/2004 135
09/01/2004 158
08/24/2004 239
08/11/2004 237
07/25/2004 301
07/08/2004 208
06/23/2004 80
06/18/2004 267
06/04/2004 428
05/10/2004 79
05/04/2004 82
04/30/2004 36
04/27/2004 413
04/09/2004 159
03/29/2004 28
03/28/2004 70
03/23/2004 93
03/17/2004 161
03/09/2004 88
03/02/2004 271
03/01/2004 6
02/12/2004 163
01/31/2004 148
01/22/2004 96
01/17/2004 482
12/19/2003 191
12/09/2003 240
11/26/2003 352
11/11/2003 59
11/08/2003 129
10/31/2003 443
10/17/2003 28
10/15/2003 97
10/07/2003 152
09/28/2003 99
09/24/2003 196
09/17/2003 91
09/12/2003 62
09/09/2003 95
09/04/2003 180
08/28/2003 384
08/04/2003 46
08/01/2003 119
07/23/2003 112
07/16/2003 408
06/18/2003 108
06/10/2003 65
06/03/2003 65
05/27/2003 148
05/13/2003 32
05/09/2003 63
05/02/2003 71
04/27/2003 53
04/22/2003 219
03/21/2003 532
03/11/2003 191
03/04/2003 163
02/25/2003 88
02/11/2003 43
02/05/2003 62
01/26/2003 7
01/20/2003 2
01/10/2003 1
12/23/2002 405
11/20/2002 150
11/16/2002 85
11/09/2002 38
11/04/2002 91
10/28/2002 145
10/15/2002 215
09/29/2002 24
09/28/2002 149
09/19/2002 178
09/13/2002 155
09/06/2002 191
08/28/2002 192
08/16/2002 386
07/30/2002 81
07/26/2002 290
07/01/2002 226
06/13/2002 6
06/12/2002 298
05/14/2002 183
04/25/2002 136
04/08/2002 145
03/25/2002 1
03/19/2002 282
02/22/2002 244
01/29/2002 160
01/11/2002 324
12/05/2001 166
11/20/2001 387
10/12/2001 543
08/20/2001 124
08/12/2001 86
08/05/2001 1230
04/28/2001 282
04/01/2001 187
03/16/2001 114
03/06/2001 88
02/24/2001 87
02/18/2001 613
01/03/2001 110
12/20/2000 89
12/09/2000 90
12/02/2000 981
09/21/2000 54
09/17/2000 201
08/25/2000 41
08/19/2000 126
08/05/2000 56
07/29/2000 49
07/23/2000 143
07/11/2000 186
06/21/2000 97
06/06/2000 159
05/11/2000 53
05/03/2000 57
04/26/2000 74
04/15/2000 98
04/01/2000 113
03/16/2000 92
03/07/2000 69
02/27/2000 27
02/23/2000 78
02/16/2000 187
01/22/2000 140
01/07/2000 158
12/16/1999 134
11/30/1999 56
11/23/1999 100
11/17/1999 201
11/09/1999 62
11/02/1999 1328
10/19/1999 141
10/02/1999 260
09/12/1999 160
08/30/1999 188
08/10/1999 201
07/14/1999 85
07/05/1999 125
06/23/1999 138
05/24/1999 232
05/23/1999 2
04/26/1999 149
04/02/1999 347
02/16/1999 227
01/28/1999 954
11/21/1998 124
11/19/1998 121
11/01/1998 216
09/26/1998 175
06/18/1998 43
06/02/1998 60
03/07/1998 260








And if you been paying attention on the news, there were a couple of sigthing that hit the news, O'hare incident (by the way FAA lied, then fessed up when FOI (freedom of information act)) was requested. Yes this is a fact, can you tell me pacman why the FAA would lie about this? Please dont spin.

Then there was another sightings witnessed by many residents in the UK

UFO light show stuns crowds

[link to www.islingtongazette.co.uk]
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We should leave the old curmudgeon alone. He is just an embittered Vietnam Vet.......
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PACNWguy trying to prove that he is not a CIA psy-op...
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PACNWguy trying to prove that he is not a CIA psy-op...

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PACNWguy is right but you are ignorants

you are ignorants of somthing what somone could analize and saw and know what he is tolking about

they are times of ufo waves in years

they could anlaize and tell it

it is no way to argue with them

they are people who know what they tolk about
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But overall, sightings are decreasing,,,,not increasing.

You just want to argue with me Heidi.

Get me some proof, a chart showing sightings year by year with them increasing since the 50's.
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you got my proof from Poland PACNWguy

We know about this from about 2 - 3 years already that sightings are decreasing .