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Why are Teachers paid so poorly?

 
SkepticalTexan

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04/19/2017 11:05 PM

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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Why do people complain about what teachers make.. become teachers.. then act amazed that they don't make what they consider enough?
 Quoting: SkepticalTexan


Do you consider $51,000 a year for a 190 day work contract "enough"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70938620


Actually it more than likely is, but I am not a teacher.

The point is aspiring teachers KNOW what teachers make. It's their decision. Don't become something knowing up front what the salary is and then constantly gripe about it.
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04/19/2017 11:06 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Because they are reporters...they regergitate whatever their payers say. Not saying they are actual whores but they do get paid saying what they are told to. Might be a ho.
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04/19/2017 11:07 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
A stupid generation is a controlled and profitable one.
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04/19/2017 11:10 PM
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Have you fucking seen the products they're putting out??
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04/19/2017 11:11 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
In Oregon they start at decent but Low wage. In a short time they get tenure, really good benefits, with many making 70k plus. Keep in mind they also work maybe 7/8 months a year. I don't care they have to do "continuing education training". So do I. They also get post grad education paid, and of course after the district pays for most or all of it, they get paid even more. I agree with the previous poster, they complain about the low beginning wage but hey that is with most jobs. I would love to get paid year round and get three months off, all federal holidays, two week Christmas, oh sorry winter break, one week spring break, snow days, in service days PLUS some sick days! Now throw in retiring at early as 50-55 years old making a good pension and medical benefits. Boo hoo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54505483


All sounds good and rational on paper right?

Any of u know a teacher?

They are harrassed by kids and parents daily

Most schools have water damage and mold, shitty Hvac systems etc...so u are long term damaging yourself in many ways


Apparently most of u are clueless to the mental stress involved including not having competent leaders or coemployees at a school
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04/19/2017 11:19 PM

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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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They aren't. They're overpaid for what they do.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!

Gimme a break.

Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.

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04/19/2017 11:48 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869


Are you kidding?



"The BLS reports the median annual salary for high school teachers was $56,310 in 2014. The best-paid 10 percent in the field made approximately $88,910, while the bottom 10 percent made $37,540. Compensation is typically based on your years of experience and educational level."



And they get full benefits and most only work 8 months a year.
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04/19/2017 11:50 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
If you want to talk about overpaid then look no further to school superintendents, they make over $211,000 a year to bitch about policies
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04/19/2017 11:57 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Teachers in Chicago make 80-120K working 9 months with full pension.

and they cry and whine and most suck.

Thats not a hard life, thats not bad pay.



If your a poor teacher, move to Chicago and teach boons for big dollars. Hazard pay I guess.
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04/20/2017 12:30 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Have you fucking seen the products they're putting out??
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04/20/2017 12:41 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
That line has been used for decades. The benefits, hours (don't give me that hours of work at home whining either) weeks worked, retirement, and relative job security would be gladly snatched up in a minute by many many other workers. Nice to have every holiday, weekend and summer off as well. Not too many dinners with the family missed because having to work late or lousy shifts either. Not enough compensation? Then get a full time year around job like the rest of the adults. The many teachers that can not get jobs would readily step in and take those awful positions in a heartbeat.

They are another group that mostly supported the Democrats' Obamacare yet expect municipalities to increase the taxes to cover what everyone else is paying for and doing with less because of it. On one hand they say they do it for dedication and the love of children. The minute they don't get exactly what they want they have have no problem with illegally striking or threatening striking. This while using the children as a bargining chip with lack of concern what those actions would do to the children they so love. Taking any type of cut is not in their vocabulary. Of course they will give the examples of the most poorly paid districts and never the big juicy paying ones that they privately gloat over. Many are laughing all the way to the bank and the holiday.

So many as educated or more educated workers endure total crap with being mistreated, hired and staffed at will, work many more uncompensated hours with zero benefits and lower compensation than the ever suffering educators. They seem to have no idea how bad things are out there compared to their little world.

After teaching the same stuff for years the lesson plans and exams are in part cut and paste groundhog day stuff.

The results speak for themselves and until the product improves it would be wise to put that in perspective. Do your job like the rest of the workers and save the theatrics. The children are in your classrooms.
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04/20/2017 12:52 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Women teachers?

Insurance. They could be sexting and fucking their students so it's a liability and PR nightmare for the school
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04/20/2017 12:54 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869


dindus inside a class room, your education is finished. any time a dindu is in school everybody fails
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04/20/2017 12:59 AM
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Oh stop being absurd about "dindus"!! If I were black, I'd very intelligently kick your racist ass. Kids learn from their parents and peers. Not their fault (whatever color) if they learn crude ways. We're ALL to blame.
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04/20/2017 01:22 AM
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Oh stop being absurd about "dindus"!! If I were black, I'd very intelligently kick your racist ass. Kids learn from their parents and peers. Not their fault (whatever color) if they learn crude ways. We're ALL to blame.
 Quoting: Bebe


You never lived in a black neighborhood or went to school with black people did you?
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04/20/2017 01:24 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
I will admit, working 190 days, which is 6 months, and receiving 6 PAID months off sounds fantastic. 7:45am to 3:00pm with a couple of papers to grade, weekends off, paid holidays, hour break for lunch, pensions and retirement benefits....teachers have it pretty good
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04/20/2017 01:25 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Oh stop being absurd about "dindus"!! If I were black, I'd very intelligently kick your racist ass. Kids learn from their parents and peers. Not their fault (whatever color) if they learn crude ways. We're ALL to blame.
 Quoting: Bebe


Let's swap houses and you can have my black neighbors since you don't mind black people. I'm sure you'll get along with them really well. They're so quiet and polite, LOL!
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04/20/2017 11:56 AM

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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
If they got paid based on the quality of their work, many of them would get a lot less. A few would be raking it in, but most are just marking time. Get rid of tenure, and get rid of the truly horrible teachers, and maybe they could gain the respect most of them deserve.
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04/20/2017 12:03 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
I will admit, working 190 days, which is 6 months, and receiving 6 PAID months off sounds fantastic. 7:45am to 3:00pm with a couple of papers to grade, weekends off, paid holidays, hour break for lunch, pensions and retirement benefits....teachers have it pretty good
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70938620


Exactly. They get PAID SUMMERS OFF...what more could you possibly ask for. Week off for thanksgiving, two weeks off for christmas, three month summer vacations and a GUARANTEED salary bonus each year. They have the best perks of any job I know of, and I haven't even started talking about their retirement package! One of the my neighbors became a teacher at 24 and retired at age 49.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869


They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all!
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You're a clueless idiot.
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04/20/2017 12:23 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
The average job gets a WEEKS WORTH OF VACATION. Teachers get 6 Months!
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Why do people complain about what teachers make.. become teachers.. then act amazed that they don't make what they consider enough?
 Quoting: SkepticalTexan


Do you consider $51,000 a year for a 190 day work contract "enough"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70938620


how much income from the second job?
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869


They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all!
 Quoting: BRIEF


You're a clueless idiot.
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Because I misspelled Christmas? It's just a typo I hit the "s" key, just not hard enough.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Public teachers? Those mindless zombies get paid plenty.
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Public teachers? Those mindless zombies get paid plenty.
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My teachers didn't get paid at all!
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04/20/2017 04:18 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
because the pentagon now gets the money that use to be for public education. that's why
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04/20/2017 04:35 PM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Money doesn't fix the problem, just look at Canada.

All I can say to America is to keep teacher's unions as small and local as possible.

Or there will be problems.
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