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Why are Teachers paid so poorly?

 
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I guess they need to move to California. Teachers make a good wage there.
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The cost of living is extremely high in California, though. And the taxes out there are absolutely ridiculous. The average salary for a teacher in Southern California is 51,000 a year.
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is that supposed to be good? i don't see anyone getting by on that in CA. i make that in rural indiana doing a not so important job
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04/21/2017 05:50 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Socialism. You work for the govt.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Because education in the U.S. is not a top priority.

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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
I guess they need to move to California. Teachers make a good wage there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64748633


The cost of living is extremely high in California, though. And the taxes out there are absolutely ridiculous. The average salary for a teacher in Southern California is 51,000 a year.
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is that supposed to be good? i don't see anyone getting by on that in CA. i make that in rural indiana doing a not so important job
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These people live in the 70s mentally.I saw a hilarious post on one of the threads today/. This guy or gal was trying to say that exterior house painters can easily pull 100k per year
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Adults are just virtue signaling when they say they respect teachers.

They do NOT respect teachers at all, but they know they should. They think that their qualified to tell us how to do our "easy" jobs.

I had a parent teach one subject out of 7, one day. So basically he did 1/28th of the classes I had per week. This did not include grading, conferences, planning/scheduling, meetings, studying the yearly reinvention of education because gov't is involved and have to have a reason for existence. He paid the kids with candy and turned to me and said, "That's how it's done." What a pompous prick, but I got the message.

No, the public doesn't respect teachers, nor do they respect our training and degrees. In fact, they think they could do a better job.
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I guess they need to move to California. Teachers make a good wage there.
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The cost of living is extremely high in California, though. And the taxes out there are absolutely ridiculous. The average salary for a teacher in Southern California is 51,000 a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869


is that supposed to be good? i don't see anyone getting by on that in CA. i make that in rural indiana doing a not so important job
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For a masters degree, that SUCKS and proves that average adults think they are just as qualified to do the job. They think it's babysitting.

Most of my income is in benefits. I have been teaching for over 30 years and my income broken into an hourly wage is $16.00 per hour. After 30 years, a professional with a Masters degree is the equivalent education as a lawyer, chiropractic doctor, and more than an accountant.

So poleeese, stop with the teachers are respected bullshit. None of us believe you. Society has zero respect for teachers. If I could do it again, I would not go into teaching.

I'm usually the most educated person at my parent/teacher conferences, but they love to tell me how to do my job. Of course, most of them suck at their job which is parenting, and are in no way qualified to do my job, but that doesn't stop them.

"Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach." We get it.
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04/21/2017 06:13 AM
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Whats teacher pay compared to UK ?

UK is - On the main pay scale your salary will most likely start on M1 (£22,467 £28,098) and can increase to M6 (£33,160 £38,241)

On the upper pay scale your salary will range from U1 (£35,571 £43,184) and can increase to U3 (£38,250 £46,829)*.
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Socialism. You work for the govt.
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LOL, i never really thought about it like that. Most government jobs are over paid and under-qualified. I know garbage men who have retired with a big fat pension...for taking out trash!
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04/21/2017 06:24 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Because they work maybe 6 months of a year.
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And half days at that.
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Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
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04/21/2017 06:32 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Because they work maybe 6 months of a year.
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And half days at that.
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Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
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Truth, they end up taking their work home. At least they're not required to stay in the building during those hours
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04/21/2017 06:34 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Imagine what our societies would be like if teachers were amoungst our highest earners.
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04/21/2017 06:40 AM

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Because they are reporters...they regergitate whatever their payers say. Not saying they are actual whores but they do get paid saying what they are told to. Might be a ho.
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This post proves my point about being more educated by far, and how podunks think they could do the job.

My work year is 11.5 months, dumb, dumb. My income broken into hourly wages isn't much more than a hotel receptionist with a High School diploma makes.

But why would I expect the uneducated masses to value education, that too would be dumb.

Keep patting yourselves on the back for really taking care of teachers so you can virtue signal to your under-educated friends about what a good person you are. I don't care anymore, just don't pretend in front of a teacher because we'll call out your lyin' BS in front of your friend, One-Tooth and your other friend, Moldy Hair.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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I worked as administration (IT) within a private university years ago. The higher your degree the larger the salary. Period.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Because they work maybe 6 months of a year.
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And half days at that.
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Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
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Because they work maybe 6 months of a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31114282


And half days at that.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
 Quoting: AlcoholicSasquatch


Truth, they end up taking their work home. At least they're not required to stay in the building during those hours
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If they do it's by choice and not a requirement. What I expect from a teacher is to be an example to the student. A good work ethic and respect for family. Therefore, work a normal 8-4, 9-5 workday and don't take the job home with you.

When my first child was born I stopped working weekends or past 5 in the evening because that became family time. I don't believe in homework, especially when they get home at 3 PM and have extracurricular activities and then dinner and family time...homework teaches the wrong lesson.
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Yeah cause teaching something you already know must be real hard....
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04/21/2017 07:02 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Because they are reporters...they regergitate whatever their payers say. Not saying they are actual whores but they do get paid saying what they are told to. Might be a ho.
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This post proves my point about being more educated by far, and how podunks think they could do the job.

My work year is 11.5 months, dumb, dumb. My income broken into hourly wages isn't much more than a hotel receptionist with a High School diploma makes.

But why would I expect the uneducated masses to value education, that too would be dumb.

Keep patting yourselves on the back for really taking care of teachers so you can virtue signal to your under-educated friends about what a good person you are. I don't care anymore, just don't pretend in front of a teacher because we'll call out your lyin' BS in front of your friend, One-Tooth and your other friend, Moldy Hair.
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It doesn't sound like you're being fair. Are you factoring in all the benefits, including pension? Are you factoring in continuing education time as hours you work when it is really personal development?

Were I work you don't get paid to take training. And you need 40 credits a year continuing education to maintain certifications. None of that is counted as paid time, its on your dime.

I also don't get a pension. I pay into 401k and Social Security or I don't get retirement income period.

If I factored in my continuing education and what I pay for retirement I could show how I'm way under paid too.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
Keep in mind that just because a school day ends, a teachers work doesn't. They spend a lot of time reading, and grading papers. Preparing lesson plans, etc, it all adds up.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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because teaching with common core is all airy fairy.. anyone can do it.

e.g. there are no correct answer in maths

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04/21/2017 07:15 AM
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
I live in middle of nowhere podunk town in Illinois. Teachers make 70k-100k+ They are overpaid here.
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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It is all relative depending on where in the country the teach is located.

Teaching is way overdue for an overhaul. Online learning and homeschooling is going to really cut into the future of education. Our current system is based on methods handed down from the 1800's.

I would rather see our tax dollars(need to be much lower) go toward more basics and then trades. Not everyone needs a higher education like college and this country(USA) has completely devalued the college degree except in higher end skills like Doctors, Engineers and Scientists.

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Last Edited by Achduke7 on 04/21/2017 07:30 AM
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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Because they only work half the fucking year! Then they bitch about how tough they have it. Nice fat pensions and full medical benefits all on the tax payer dime. More Commie bullshit.
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I guess they need to move to California. Teachers make a good wage there.
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The cost of living is extremely high in California, though. And the taxes out there are absolutely ridiculous. The average salary for a teacher in Southern California is 51,000 a year.
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Teachers here in bumble fuck Idaho make bank,the music teacher is pulling 80k,they all have medical,cost of living increases and retirement,on top of that they only work part of the year and have lots of holidays.
It's a joke
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
I guess they need to move to California. Teachers make a good wage there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64748633


The cost of living is extremely high in California, though. And the taxes out there are absolutely ridiculous. The average salary for a teacher in Southern California is 51,000 a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869


Teachers here in bumble fuck Idaho make bank,the music teacher is pulling 80k,they all have medical,cost of living increases and retirement,on top of that they only work part of the year and have lots of holidays.
It's a joke
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Don't you think its a worthwise investment in the future of your nation, to help MAGA ? That will never happen if your country is run in the future by uneducated retards .
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All due to unionization in the late Sixties and early Seventies.

This is when the transformation from "of service" to the children and the community to that of selfishness began.
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Because they work maybe 6 months of a year.
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And half days at that.
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Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
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Not from June through September.
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Re: Why are Teachers paid so poorly?
They're paid above average... Dont see the problem
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My husband was a High School hard math teacher and I could not agree more, sad state of affairs grouphug
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Because most teachers are as dumb as rocks and we all know it. We sat through their classes as children and when we get to college, we raise our eyebrows in awe as the "type" from our own generation self- sorts themselves into "education" colleges. We know the truth.
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Why should they be paid more? Some can't even tell the difference between a clock and a bomb!


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