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Why are Teachers paid so poorly?

 
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They're paid above average... Dont see the problem
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The problem is the people paying their crazy salaries are making below average.
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And we have master's degrees that cost us about $200,000.

I'll pay off my degree, but I won't use it to teach your children well. I'll give the High School minimum wage education that I'm paid; that you think is adequate. Think a ditto a day. No hands on because that requires a lot of thought from a master teacher. Nope you get the High School graduate ditto-type of teaching.

Hope a minimum wage education is adequate for your children, but I don't bust my ass for nothing anymore.

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Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that?
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And half days at that.
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Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
 Quoting: AlcoholicSasquatch


Not from June through September.
 Quoting: Duncan the destroyer


Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done.

I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer.

You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off.

Done explaining.

This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children?

Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing.

You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine.

Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage.

Love you too and in the same way.
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Beyond the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic education is nothing more than brainwashing children to the liberal agenda. I'm speaking of grades K-12, beyond the basics you teach no valuable skills to take into the real world outside of academia. Teachers just create more teachers, and that's about it.
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Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that?
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No actually we got a decrease in pay. The newspapers said it was an increase, but what they did is cut other things and then not even cover it with their so-called increase.

Unless you've been a teacher, you know nothing. Just because you went to school doesn't mean you can do the job anymore than going to the doctor makes you one.

The stupid it hurts.

How stupid to attack the very people you entrust with something as important as your child's education.
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Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long...
 Quoting: AlcoholicSasquatch


Not from June through September.
 Quoting: Duncan the destroyer


Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done.

I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer.

You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off.

Done explaining.

This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children?

Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing.

You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine.

Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage.

Love you too and in the same way.
 Quoting: jpop


Beyond the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic education is nothing more than brainwashing children to the liberal agenda. I'm speaking of grades K-12, beyond the basics you teach no valuable skills to take into the real world outside of academia. Teachers just create more teachers, and that's about it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree about the libTARD brainwashing. How long have you been teaching? Oh that's right you've never taught a day in your life, but you know all about it. Ignorance is bliss.
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Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that?
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No actually we got a decrease in pay. The newspapers said it was an increase, but what they did is cut other things and then not even cover it with their so-called increase.

Unless you've been a teacher, you know nothing. Just because you went to school doesn't mean you can do the job anymore than going to the doctor makes you one.

The stupid it hurts.

How stupid to attack the very people you entrust with something as important as your child's education.
 Quoting: jpop


The net cost for me of my "increase" was a 3% reduction in pay.

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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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Teachers unions suck it all down....

Then the shitty tendered teachers get to keep their jobs, while the good ones that deserve more, leave....

....and we get snowflakes filling the positions.
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Not from June through September.
 Quoting: Duncan the destroyer


Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done.

I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer.

You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off.

Done explaining.

This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children?

Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing.

You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine.

Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage.

Love you too and in the same way.
 Quoting: jpop


Beyond the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic education is nothing more than brainwashing children to the liberal agenda. I'm speaking of grades K-12, beyond the basics you teach no valuable skills to take into the real world outside of academia. Teachers just create more teachers, and that's about it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree about the libTARD brainwashing. How long have you been teaching? Oh that's right you've never taught a day in your life, but you know all about it. Ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: jpop


You don't seem to understand. It is not the people that you feel are beneath you that are not advocating for your pay raises, it is the people way above you that keep it in check. You aren't even smart enough to define your real enemy. Lol
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They aren't. An honest Teacher will tell you that. It's propaganda by the Teachers' union to get more.
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I respect (some) teachers more now that I learned about the conditions they have to teach under. My daughter-in-law has been teaching 3rd grade for a couple of years in Houston, in a not so affluent area.

The kids show up to school with literally almost nothing except their clothes. Most of the school supplies have to be paid for by the teachers out of their salaries. The get a tax credit at the end of the year so they have to keep track of it and do the paperwork.

What a pain in the ass for a job requiring a masters, a teaching certificate, work in shitty areas until there is an opening in a better district, and pay for the little snotbuckets school supplies too? On a low-end salary as well.

You can see the poor future of our country when you realize how teachers, and thereby students, are treated in this country. It can't end well, except for TPTB who want dumber, more uneducated masses of slaves.
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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Teachers unions suck it all down....

Then the shitty tendered teachers get to keep their jobs, while the good ones that deserve more, leave....

....and we get snowflakes filling the positions.
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The shitty ones stay because they were already giving your children the adequate job for the minimum pay.

I left the public school system and came back. I worked my ass off for nothing for many, many years. Giving it my all and having great success.

One day I realized that all I do is work for you ungrateful bastards. That was the day, I started giving you what you think I'm worth.

Self-inflicted, deal with it.
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Not from June through September.
 Quoting: Duncan the destroyer


Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done.

I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer.

You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off.

Done explaining.

This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children?

Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing.

You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine.

Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage.

Love you too and in the same way.
 Quoting: jpop


Beyond the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic education is nothing more than brainwashing children to the liberal agenda. I'm speaking of grades K-12, beyond the basics you teach no valuable skills to take into the real world outside of academia. Teachers just create more teachers, and that's about it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree about the libTARD brainwashing. How long have you been teaching? Oh that's right you've never taught a day in your life, but you know all about it. Ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: jpop


To ASSUME makes an ass out of U...not me. I have taught many, but I teach a valuable skill and make people millionaires.

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They aren't. An honest Teacher will tell you that. It's propaganda by the Teachers' union to get more.
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How long have you been living on a teacher's salary. Another know nothing with an opinion.

Right back at ya. Our job has become a job not a career. So no extra anything from me anymore.

By the way I won national 4th place/state 1st place awards for teaching. Just think what you children are no longer getting from me. Why, because I don't respect you anymore than you respect me.
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They're paid above average... Dont see the problem
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The problem is the people paying their crazy salaries are making below average.
 Quoting: Duncan the destroyer


And we have master's degrees that cost us about $200,000.

I'll pay off my degree, but I won't use it to teach your children well. I'll give the High School minimum wage education that I'm paid; that you think is adequate. Think a ditto a day. No hands on because that requires a lot of thought from a master teacher. Nope you get the High School graduate ditto-type of teaching.

Hope a minimum wage education is adequate for your children, but I don't bust my ass for nothing anymore.
 Quoting: jpop


Kids can learn at home in 3hrs on a computet what it takes a teacher 8hrs.
Then we can get rid of high property taces
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They're paid above average... Dont see the problem
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The problem is, that is more than can be said for their students' grades.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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What do you consider low pay? Some teachers make 80k or more.
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Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done.

I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer.

You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off.

Done explaining.

This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children?

Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing.

You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine.

Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage.

Love you too and in the same way.
 Quoting: jpop


Beyond the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic education is nothing more than brainwashing children to the liberal agenda. I'm speaking of grades K-12, beyond the basics you teach no valuable skills to take into the real world outside of academia. Teachers just create more teachers, and that's about it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree about the libTARD brainwashing. How long have you been teaching? Oh that's right you've never taught a day in your life, but you know all about it. Ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: jpop


To ASSUME makes an ass out of U...not me. I have taught many, but I teach a valuable skill and make people millionaires.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Chumley we all teach valuable skills in our everyday life. Pat yourself on the back, you've accomplished what everyone else has.

Now back to the fact you've never been a teacher.
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They aren't. An honest Teacher will tell you that. It's propaganda by the Teachers' union to get more.
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How long have you been living on a teacher's salary. Another know nothing with an opinion.

Right back at ya. Our job has become a job not a career. So no extra anything from me anymore.

By the way I won national 4th place/state 1st place awards for teaching. Just think what you children are no longer getting from me. Why, because I don't respect you anymore than you respect me.
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Unoins ruined you profession. In chicago the Union said we will care about the kids when they start paying union dues.
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They aren't. An honest Teacher will tell you that. It's propaganda by the Teachers' union to get more.
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How long have you been living on a teacher's salary. Another know nothing with an opinion.

Right back at ya. Our job has become a job not a career. So no extra anything from me anymore.

By the way I won national 4th place/state 1st place awards for teaching. Just think what you children are no longer getting from me. Why, because I don't respect you anymore than you respect me.
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Did you know what a teacher's pay scale is before going into teaching? I bet you did, and yet you decided to teach anyway...just to bitch about it or because you aren't qualified to do anything but teach? Teachers often teach because they can't do. A friend of mine is a dentist and his teacher didn't have the manual dexterity to be one himself, so he teaches dentistry.
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Beyond the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic education is nothing more than brainwashing children to the liberal agenda. I'm speaking of grades K-12, beyond the basics you teach no valuable skills to take into the real world outside of academia. Teachers just create more teachers, and that's about it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I agree about the libTARD brainwashing. How long have you been teaching? Oh that's right you've never taught a day in your life, but you know all about it. Ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: jpop


To ASSUME makes an ass out of U...not me. I have taught many, but I teach a valuable skill and make people millionaires.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Chumley we all teach valuable skills in our everyday life. Pat yourself on the back, you've accomplished what everyone else has.

Now back to the fact you've never been a teacher.
 Quoting: jpop


You have no idea what i teach, I have only shared a couple of my businesses.
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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What do you consider low pay? Some teachers make 80k or more.
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Good, then homeschool them. One less student for me to worry about.


Thanks for the reminder that all there is to learning according to you is to read a computer screen on a subject.

How's your kid doing in Algebra, advanced literature and ancient civilizations? Just put him on a computer, yeah that's the ticket.

Maybe that's all I do, but you better hope not for your kids sake.
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all!
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Teachers work their asses off, many working more than 12 hours a day and having to take work home.

You don't know your ass from the hole you crawled out of
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all!
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Teachers work their asses off, many working more than 12 hours a day and having to take work home.

You don't know your ass from the hole you crawled out of
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I agree about the libTARD brainwashing. How long have you been teaching? Oh that's right you've never taught a day in your life, but you know all about it. Ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: jpop


To ASSUME makes an ass out of U...not me. I have taught many, but I teach a valuable skill and make people millionaires.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Chumley we all teach valuable skills in our everyday life. Pat yourself on the back, you've accomplished what everyone else has.

Now back to the fact you've never been a teacher.
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You have no idea what i teach, I have only shared a couple of my businesses.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know you don't teach by your ignorance.

Calling job training teaching is ridiculous. Maybe I should just train your kids to do a job and nothing else. how would that be, Dad?
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HA! Not where I live! At least not public school teachers. Well paid, excellent benefits, can retire in their 50s with full benefits, pension and still collect social security at 62 or 65.
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They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low?
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They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all!
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Teachers work their asses off, many working more than 12 hours a day and having to take work home.

You don't know your ass from the hole you crawled out of
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Then why are they fat? people that work their asses off generally don't sit on their fat ass all day. shuffling papers is not work.

In science, the word work has a different meaning than you may be familiar with. The scientific definition of work is: using a force to move an object a distance (when both the force and the motion of the object are in the same direction.)

education.jlab.org/jsat/powerpoint/work_and_simple_machines.p​pt
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To ASSUME makes an ass out of U...not me. I have taught many, but I teach a valuable skill and make people millionaires.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Chumley we all teach valuable skills in our everyday life. Pat yourself on the back, you've accomplished what everyone else has.

Now back to the fact you've never been a teacher.
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You have no idea what i teach, I have only shared a couple of my businesses.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know you don't teach by your ignorance.

Calling job training teaching is ridiculous. Maybe I should just train your kids to do a job and nothing else. how would that be, Dad?
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More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get.
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Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that?
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No actually we got a decrease in pay. The newspapers said it was an increase, but what they did is cut other things and then not even cover it with their so-called increase.

Unless you've been a teacher, you know nothing. Just because you went to school doesn't mean you can do the job anymore than going to the doctor makes you one.

The stupid it hurts.

How stupid to attack the very people you entrust with something as important as your child's education.
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Bullshit. It is written in the contract that teachers will receive a salary increase. Their wages are literally never stagnant. So not only do you have wages that are guaranteed to increase but you also have strong unions to give you an unsurpassed amount of job security.
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Chumley we all teach valuable skills in our everyday life. Pat yourself on the back, you've accomplished what everyone else has.

Now back to the fact you've never been a teacher.
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You have no idea what i teach, I have only shared a couple of my businesses.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I know you don't teach by your ignorance.

Calling job training teaching is ridiculous. Maybe I should just train your kids to do a job and nothing else. how would that be, Dad?
 Quoting: jpop


More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get.
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Good then I'll just have them work all day. what a clean room I'll have. Too bad they can't read, write, do math, understand any sciences, or history, economics, gov't, but at least they're ready for that McDonald's job.





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