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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31958838 United States 04/21/2017 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869 Good. Teachers are worthless filth. I have three children and I am tired of having to reeducate them to get rid of the communist indoctrination shoved down their throat in school. To be a teacher you must be sold out to the communist system. I enjoy nothing more than teacher meetings where I always remind them that "those who cant do teach", and I actively encourage my children to do the same. That really sets them off. If you are a teacher you have sold out and are worthless scum. You are the crap, not the students or parents. Teachers are worthless steaming piles of crap. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56468420 United States 04/21/2017 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869 They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all! Teachers work their asses off, many working more than 12 hours a day and having to take work home. You don't know your ass from the hole you crawled out of Then why are they fat? people that work their asses off generally don't sit on their fat ass all day. shuffling papers is not work. In science, the word work has a different meaning than you may be familiar with. The scientific definition of work is: using a force to move an object a distance (when both the force and the motion of the object are in the same direction.) education.jlab.org/jsat/powerpoint/work_and_simple_machines.ppt Good one! Are you retarded? |
BRIEF User ID: 65696907 United States 04/21/2017 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know you don't teach by your ignorance. Calling job training teaching is ridiculous. Maybe I should just train your kids to do a job and nothing else. how would that be, Dad? More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get. Good then I'll just have them work all day. what a clean room I'll have. Too bad they can't read, write, do math, understand any sciences, or history, economics, gov't, but at least they're ready for that McDonald's job. Your memory is short or you didn't read what I wrote. I said teachers are good for the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic...you don't teach cleaning, that's an intuitive process. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74602524 United States 04/21/2017 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They put up a lot with wild disruptive kids, the older ones. They are loud and I've heard of throwing things at the teachers in high school. I've heard many tales from teachers. I could never put up with some of them. The parents won't let you punish them and they get mad at the teachers, not their own bad kids. Students are bad and did not act like that when I was growing up. |
BRIEF User ID: 65696907 United States 04/21/2017 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF They get paid plenty considering they don't work a full day, get weekends off, and every possible holiday, snow day, and how many months???? Chritmas and new years = two weeks, two weeks for spring break, two weeks for fall break, three months for summer break...fuck they hardly work at all! Teachers work their asses off, many working more than 12 hours a day and having to take work home. You don't know your ass from the hole you crawled out of Then why are they fat? people that work their asses off generally don't sit on their fat ass all day. shuffling papers is not work. In science, the word work has a different meaning than you may be familiar with. The scientific definition of work is: using a force to move an object a distance (when both the force and the motion of the object are in the same direction.) education.jlab.org/jsat/powerpoint/work_and_simple_machines.ppt Good one! Are you retarded? I scored into the 99th percentile. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
jpop User ID: 70146321 United States 04/21/2017 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72753714 No actually we got a decrease in pay. The newspapers said it was an increase, but what they did is cut other things and then not even cover it with their so-called increase. Unless you've been a teacher, you know nothing. Just because you went to school doesn't mean you can do the job anymore than going to the doctor makes you one. The stupid it hurts. How stupid to attack the very people you entrust with something as important as your child's education. Bullshit. It is written in the contract that teachers will receive a salary increase. Their wages are literally never stagnant. So not only do you have wages that are guaranteed to increase but you also have strong unions to give you an unsurpassed amount of job security. Bullshit. The contract is renegotiated every year. They cut all kinds of things so that they can pretend they give one shit about teachers. The union doesn't help us unless you're a libTARD. I don't belong to it. You are going to argue with someone who does it and KNOWS, but you've never done it and don't know. Sounds like a libTARD Fake News "reporter." |
spoof User ID: 4664704 United States 04/21/2017 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They aren't. An honest Teacher will tell you that. It's propaganda by the Teachers' union to get more. Quoting: spoof How long have you been living on a teacher's salary. Another know nothing with an opinion. Right back at ya. Our job has become a job not a career. So no extra anything from me anymore. By the way I won national 4th place/state 1st place awards for teaching. Just think what you children are no longer getting from me. Why, because I don't respect you anymore than you respect me. Guess you taught at the wrong school, and I'm sorry you don't feel like you are paid what you are worth. What I do know is, the teachers I know, would say the same thing. They obviously don't feel like they are/were unpaid at all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74352868 Mexico 04/21/2017 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long... Not from June through September. Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done. I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer. You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off. Done explaining. This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children? Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing. You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine. Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage. Love you too and in the same way. You do not get paid minimum wage! You get paid (for anyone who has been there past any probationary periods) $30 or more an hour. Therefore you had damn well better produce results. You are not a teacher anyway. Because when any real teacher gets ripped for "producing poor quality" the correct and proper response is "They put in place a whole bunch of new policies that force us to allow the kids to behave like monkeys. If we do anything that would actually work to stop it, we're fired. That is the reality, you are a HOAX. |
jpop User ID: 70146321 United States 04/21/2017 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jpop I know you don't teach by your ignorance. Calling job training teaching is ridiculous. Maybe I should just train your kids to do a job and nothing else. how would that be, Dad? More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get. Good then I'll just have them work all day. what a clean room I'll have. Too bad they can't read, write, do math, understand any sciences, or history, economics, gov't, but at least they're ready for that McDonald's job. Your memory is short or you didn't read what I wrote. I said teachers are good for the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic...you don't teach cleaning, that's an intuitive process. Oh my. You were in the 99th percentile in what? You are never just in the 99th percentile. That makes no sense. You are talking to someone who does this for a living. Second, just to try to keep your wandering attention on task, let me remind you that you also stated that just teaching them how to do a job is all they need. Cleaning is intuitive. So your children just started cleaning all on their own. You lie. No point in continuing with someone who's clearly just dishing BS. "I'm in the 99th percentile." LOL |
jpop User ID: 70146321 United States 04/21/2017 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AlcoholicSasquatch Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long... Not from June through September. Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done. I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer. You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off. Done explaining. This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children? Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing. You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine. Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage. Love you too and in the same way. You do not get paid minimum wage! You get paid (for anyone who has been there past any probationary periods) $30 or more an hour. Therefore you had damn well better produce results. You are not a teacher anyway. Because when any real teacher gets ripped for "producing poor quality" the correct and proper response is "They put in place a whole bunch of new policies that force us to allow the kids to behave like monkeys. If we do anything that would actually work to stop it, we're fired. That is the reality, you are a HOAX. And another know-nothing tells me what I get paid. Pathetic. Well I know it's a little over minimum wage. How's that minimum education turning out for you and yours? LOL |
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BRIEF User ID: 65696907 United States 04/21/2017 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get. Good then I'll just have them work all day. what a clean room I'll have. Too bad they can't read, write, do math, understand any sciences, or history, economics, gov't, but at least they're ready for that McDonald's job. Your memory is short or you didn't read what I wrote. I said teachers are good for the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic...you don't teach cleaning, that's an intuitive process. Oh my. You were in the 99th percentile in what? You are never just in the 99th percentile. That makes no sense. You are talking to someone who does this for a living. Second, just to try to keep your wandering attention on task, let me remind you that you also stated that just teaching them how to do a job is all they need. Cleaning is intuitive. So your children just started cleaning all on their own. You lie. No point in continuing with someone who's clearly just dishing BS. "I'm in the 99th percentile." LOL if you are a teacher you should know what I'm talking about, yes the 99th percentile across the board. A straight fucking line on the top of the graph. Get educated: To score 99 percentile means that there are about 99 percent of people( who appeared for the test )who have scored less than you,that means you are in the top one percent of students who have scored great . [link to www.quora.com (secure)] I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
ItsAllALie User ID: 21324818 United States 04/21/2017 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone says they would love to have the teachers job because they get summers off, but they have never been a teacher in a school setting. If you heard the stories my wife comes home with every day, you would not think the same way. The kids now days are completely entitled and have no respect for anyone. It's not like it was even 20 years ago. If you discipline a student, you could get in trouble. Even talking sternly is considered discipline in some instances. Teachers have no support from the home life usually. It's considered not much more than a day care system by most parents, and this is elementary school my wife teaches. Parents barely care anymore and yell at you when their kid is behind. Wall streeters are making billions of dollars a year for doing nothing more than pushing numbers around and you people want to bitch about the educators of our future generations making 50k a year? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? The priorities of this country are beyond Fucked at this point. "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first and love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life." Theodore Roosevelt ItsAllALie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14126433 United States 04/21/2017 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Teachers in Long Island make 6 figures easy and deal with well behaved, smart kids. Then they retire at 6 figures, plus benefits. The only time they care about kids is during budget fights for their raise. Then they cut all programs for kids and keep the money. Every year . |
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BRIEF User ID: 65696907 United States 04/21/2017 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74426454 United States 04/21/2017 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are not underpaid in Pittsburgh PA. In 2014-15 school year 78 public school teachers in my small school district made over 100k. They also get insane healthcare, a pension you can only dream about, raises for cost of living, pay raises in their contract and if it is a year in which they move up another step a raise for that. They get contract increases in most years of their contract. Oh I forgot to mention they get the summer off. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49548598 United States 04/21/2017 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jpop I know you don't teach by your ignorance. Calling job training teaching is ridiculous. Maybe I should just train your kids to do a job and nothing else. how would that be, Dad? More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get. Good then I'll just have them work all day. what a clean room I'll have. Too bad they can't read, write, do math, understand any sciences, or history, economics, gov't, but at least they're ready for that McDonald's job. Your memory is short or you didn't read what I wrote. I said teachers are good for the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic...you don't teach cleaning, that's an intuitive process. They aren't even good for that in my area. My daughter's first grade teacher doesn't know the difference between to, too, and two. |
BRIEF User ID: 65696907 United States 04/21/2017 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF More useful, that's for damn sure...and you don't even know the definition of ignorant. I'm as far from ignorant as you can get. Good then I'll just have them work all day. what a clean room I'll have. Too bad they can't read, write, do math, understand any sciences, or history, economics, gov't, but at least they're ready for that McDonald's job. Your memory is short or you didn't read what I wrote. I said teachers are good for the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic...you don't teach cleaning, that's an intuitive process. They aren't even good for that in my area. My daughter's first grade teacher doesn't know the difference between to, too, and two. LOL Too many people struggle with the proper use of those, to the degree that I believe they must have an IQ of around two. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72753714 United States 04/21/2017 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72753714 No actually we got a decrease in pay. The newspapers said it was an increase, but what they did is cut other things and then not even cover it with their so-called increase. Unless you've been a teacher, you know nothing. Just because you went to school doesn't mean you can do the job anymore than going to the doctor makes you one. The stupid it hurts. How stupid to attack the very people you entrust with something as important as your child's education. Bullshit. It is written in the contract that teachers will receive a salary increase. Their wages are literally never stagnant. So not only do you have wages that are guaranteed to increase but you also have strong unions to give you an unsurpassed amount of job security. Bullshit. The contract is renegotiated every year. They cut all kinds of things so that they can pretend they give one shit about teachers. The union doesn't help us unless you're a libTARD. I don't belong to it. You are going to argue with someone who does it and KNOWS, but you've never done it and don't know. Sounds like a libTARD Fake News "reporter." Youre lying. A teacher's salary never decreases. It always increases - there is no such thing as teachers making less than they did last year. They have a guaranteed salary increase that is literally built into their contract. Your salaries will increase no matter what. And what "cuts " are you referring to? Your salary isnt being cut, your hours arent being cut, and your benefits arent being cut. Stop trying to make it seem like you guys are anything but pampered. Even if there are cuts in federal funding your wages are still GUARANTEED to interest and you will still have TENURE that will make it impossible for you to lose your job or even get fired. 190 days of work out of 365 days, paid holidays, paid summers, weekenends off, pensions, hefty retirement package and a guaranteed annual salary rise and youre trying to convince everyone that youve got it hard? When the average worker receives a whopping 5 days off per year? LOL. |
Duncan the destroyer User ID: 74730085 United States 04/21/2017 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not really. I'm married to a teacher and I can tell you that she works long hours... very long... Not from June through September. Another idiot that knows all about something they've never done. I work 11.5 months. I do not have a summer break because I have to go to classes and work in a classroom all summer. You are living in the 70's if you think we get all summer off. Done explaining. What do you do for work from June to September? Teachers I know are out playing golf and going on rafting trips. This post proves that you don't respect teachers. All I have to ask is why do you trust someone you treat like shit to do a good job teaching your children? Cause we're so nice? Don't count on it. Not after you've decided that minimum wage is adequate for a masters level education, and constantly criticize the job we're doing. You get what you pay for. You pay a little over minimum wage, and we'll give you a little over minimum wage education. I don't care about you and yours anymore than you care about me and mine. Why do you think we're going to respect you more than you respect us. Ain't happening. Live with it, you started it, continued with your daily uneducated negative opinion, and we will finish it because the people you're disrespecting are teaching YOUR children for minimum wage. Love you too and in the same way. Duncan the destroyer |
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Duncan the destroyer User ID: 74730085 United States 04/21/2017 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone says they would love to have the teachers job because they get summers off, but they have never been a teacher in a school setting. If you heard the stories my wife comes home with every day, you would not think the same way. Quoting: ItsAllALie The kids now days are completely entitled and have no respect for anyone. It's not like it was even 20 years ago. If you discipline a student, you could get in trouble. Even talking sternly is considered discipline in some instances. Teachers have no support from the home life usually. It's considered not much more than a day care system by most parents, and this is elementary school my wife teaches. Parents barely care anymore and yell at you when their kid is behind. Wall streeters are making billions of dollars a year for doing nothing more than pushing numbers around and you people want to bitch about the educators of our future generations making 50k a year? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? The priorities of this country are beyond Fucked at this point. liberal,common core,nobody left behind bullshit is the reason kids are a problem in the classroom. Tell your wife to start cracking the whip! Duncan the destroyer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14073300 Canada 04/21/2017 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They sure do have to deal with a lot of crap. The students, the parents, and the administration that pressures them into handing out hundreds of standardized tests. Why are their salaries so low? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74561869 You're worth what someone is willing to pay you. Get government out of school. Let me shop around for the best education for my money and watch the good educators profit. |
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Duncan the destroyer User ID: 74730085 United States 04/21/2017 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Teachers have a guaranteed salaey increase every year. How many careers offer that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72753714 No actually we got a decrease in pay. The newspapers said it was an increase, but what they did is cut other things and then not even cover it with their so-called increase. Unless you've been a teacher, you know nothing. Just because you went to school doesn't mean you can do the job anymore than going to the doctor makes you one. The stupid it hurts. How stupid to attack the very people you entrust with something as important as your child's education. Bullshit. It is written in the contract that teachers will receive a salary increase. Their wages are literally never stagnant. So not only do you have wages that are guaranteed to increase but you also have strong unions to give you an unsurpassed amount of job security. Bullshit. The contract is renegotiated every year. They cut all kinds of things so that they can pretend they give one shit about teachers. The union doesn't help us unless you're a libTARD. I don't belong to it. You are going to argue with someone who does it and KNOWS, but you've never done it and don't know. Sounds like a libTARD Fake News "reporter." What you say may be true but somehow they always come up with pay and benefit increases thus raising my taxes. 80% of my property taxes goes to the school system,on top of that I'm paying an added fee for a school bond,of all that money only about 15% goes towards students the rest is teachers pay,benefits and retirement. Our school system with their out of touch pay/benefits is draining the taxpayers. Duncan the destroyer |