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Can drugs be spiritual, you think?

 
Hedonism
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Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Do you think drugs can be spiritual?

Marijuana, cocaine, DMT. inhalants, peyote, laughing gas, etc....?

...or should they only be regulated by the government for "ailments" and impose harsh penalties on those who may try them?

What do you think?
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What is the difference between spirit and conscience?

Do drugs have an effect on your conscience?

There your go!

Last Edited by Plan Z on 04/12/2017 01:40 PM
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Anything that doesn't come from within is technically a false God.

I'm not religious or a ban tard either btw.
But a few religitard ideas are good.

But who knows?
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Crowley wrote about this.
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Alcohol is spirits.
Herb is the healing of the nations.
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Do you think drugs can be spiritual?

Marijuana, cocaine, DMT. inhalants, peyote, laughing gas, etc....?

...or should they only be regulated by the government for "ailments" and impose harsh penalties on those who may try them?

What do you think?
 Quoting: Hedonism 71324787


Go do a couple of hits of some really good blotter and you will answer your own question.

What you will find, is God is everything. Everything is living and is a part of you, and you are a part of everything. It's extremely hard to explain, but even inanimate objects are alive.

I've walked with God many times.
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Absolutely, ketamine, mdma, lsd, peyote, you'd be amazed of the blatant synchronicities after taking someone of these substances. Shortcuts to answers about the nature of reality, but you don't need to do them to find out this information. Mediation and dreams my friend.
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Absolutely, ketamine, mdma, lsd, peyote, you'd be amazed of the blatant synchronicities after taking someone of these substances. Shortcuts to answers about the nature of reality, but you don't need to do them to find out this information. Mediation and dreams my friend.
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Dreams count only if they are lucid.
What meditation do you suggest? , they are so many types of meditation...
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I think for the most part drugs are pure evil.

Look at child abuse or any abuse actually.

99% of the time some type of drug was involved.

Man's inherent nature is evil and drugs definitely compound the problem.

Users are incredibly selfish.
Addicts are completely self-centered.
When is the last time a group of meth addicts decided to volunteer at a nursing home?

Never.

Drugs are spiritual all right. PURE evil.
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"What should it profit a man, if he should win a flame war, yet lose his cool?"

"Encircle, eviscerate and extirpate the odious Ophidians."
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Lots of people have used them for just that.
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
I think for the most part drugs are pure evil.

Look at child abuse or any abuse actually.

99% of the time some type of drug was involved.

Man's inherent nature is evil and drugs definitely compound the problem.

Users are incredibly selfish.
Addicts are completely self-centered.
When is the last time a group of meth addicts decided to volunteer at a nursing home?

Never.

Drugs are spiritual all right. PURE evil.
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Tribes all around the world have traditions of using some form of hallucinogen to conduct their spiritual ceremonies.

I think we need to better define the term for 'drug' and better address overindulgence. Plus, way more people are killed by pharmaceuticals than recreational ones.
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Do you think drugs can be spiritual?

Marijuana, cocaine, DMT. inhalants, peyote, laughing gas, etc....?

...or should they only be regulated by the government for "ailments" and impose harsh penalties on those who may try them?

What do you think?
 Quoting: Hedonism 71324787


Anything can be spiritual, if a Rubix Cube gets you to that level of brain orgasm then it becomes part of your spiritual experience.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Science: The subtle worship of God through the study of His creation.

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Objectively, the answer is no. Drugs cannot be spiritual.

Subjectively, if one is already highly spiritual, certain drugs can perpetuate that.
It's time to wake up from the dream.
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Marijuana,DMT,Ect. natural plants are not drugs....drugs are what you get from the doctor (chemicals).......natural enhancers when consumed take you to a higher vibration.....
that,s why we call it getting high

Beware though...these enhancers are amplifiers and if you have alot of negative beliefs you could become paranoid....if you become paranoid you now know that you have some negative beliefs to transform to positive......

positive beliefs are magnified also....i call it happy smoke....when all of your beliefs are positive then you wont need the enhancers anymore
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I SAY NO TO DURGS BUT THEY JUST WON'T LISTEN!!!!!1!!!11!!!
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yes and no...
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Only when you let the drugs do you and not you doing the drugs.
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Do you think drugs can be spiritual?

Marijuana, cocaine, DMT. inhalants, peyote, laughing gas, etc....?

...or should they only be regulated by the government for "ailments" and impose harsh penalties on those who may try them?

What do you think?
 Quoting: Hedonism 71324787


Yes, but wrong spirit. The Greek word for witchcraft is pharmakeia, from which we get the word Pharmacy. It's spiritual all right, but will destroy you in the end.
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So mixing drugs with meditation?
That is wrong on so many levels.
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Re: Can drugs be spiritual, you think?
Read some Joseph Campbell. He addresses the entirety of human spirituality throughout recorded history, and drugs have always played a role in nearly every culture.

He makes the argument that drugs should ONLY be taken when on a spiritual quest. Once drugs are taken solely as a recreational escape, they loose their meaning and usefulness. Your spirit is floating free, without direction. Hence the occurrence of "bad trips" and addiction.
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Absolutely, ketamine, mdma, lsd, peyote, you'd be amazed of the blatant synchronicities after taking someone of these substances. Shortcuts to answers about the nature of reality, but you don't need to do them to find out this information. Mediation and dreams my friend.
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Dreams count only if they are lucid.
What meditation do you suggest? , they are so many types of meditation...
 Quoting: Saty


Zazen.
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Of course they can allow spirits in your body. Even the Bible warns against using drugs because they will let spirits in that seek to control you. HINT: these aren't good spirits.
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Many drugs (mostly the psychedelics) raise your personal energy and with that you experience things.
That is why we all experience the same things when energy rises.
But as soon as the trip is over, energylevels are what it was before and you are back in your mundane boring life where it was fantastic wonderland before.

So people knowing this went to India to enter Ashrams to learn to raise this energy by themselves and keep it high to endure prolonged states of the same where psychedelics bring you to.

In the end you will get it, if you are a great observer that some drugs (shrooms especially) raise the kundalini to tremendous hights and you will start to notice things, like entering your dreamworld with your waking consciousness still with you.
You then know that eastern practices are all based around raising kundalini and when kundalini rises in enough quantities it opens your third eye fully and you will see the world very different.

Been there, done it all and now go and enjoy and enlighten yourself but beware, it is outright scary sometimes when you are not prepared and thrown in full force.
Some go mad.
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I don't know if drugs can be spiritual or not, but my friend Lisa has a daughter who was addicted for several years to xanex. And she swore that when her daughter was on it and came around her, she could sense the presence of something demonic and deceptive "attached" to her.
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Do you think drugs can be spiritual?

Marijuana, cocaine, DMT. inhalants, peyote, laughing gas, etc....?

...or should they only be regulated by the government for "ailments" and impose harsh penalties on those who may try them?

What do you think?
 Quoting: Hedonism 71324787


separation of authority and belief systems is spiritual.
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