What Happens When You Die! MUST READ!

I think I will wait and see for myself OP

Too bad I can't come back to let you know.

I don't know if this will help your research KTM?
But here's one of mine.

Ok short version of my OBE NDE and RV ?

Was waiting on confirmation of a small operation that was required to remove a stent from my bladder to my kidney.

Got the letter from hospital and as i read it i fell back on my bed and i found myself floating over my body as a surgical team worked on me. The operation had obviously went badly and i could see my entire naval was wide open and held back with clamps as a surgeon who had his hands inside me as he tried to repair something. I came back too reality lying on my bed,shaking sweating and shitting myself.

Told my family and friends who mostly scoffed.
2 weeks later.
Went for the operation and signed the waiver under duress.
Told the surgeon what i saw an after giving me a strange look he reassured me it was a simple 15 min operation.

7-8 hours later i awoke connected to all sorts of medical equipment in a single room. I could hardly move..I had died twice, apparently and needed loads of blood transfusions and major surgery.

I have a 9 inch scar from my navel to over my belly button.
He made such an arse of the operation that 1 year i had too go back and get the whole thing done again from scratch.
Sued the bastard and they closed ranks and he was found not guilty.


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I nearly bled to death having my son. Long story on how, but I "woke" up in a cave, the walls were sweating, it was dim and all I could hear was screaming, moaning and the smell was something I have never smelled in life. Before me was a tunnel that was pitch black; I could see nothing looking in and I was terrified to go through. I also knew I HAD to go through it.

In short, I was in a place that scared the shit out of me. I was not a bad person, I tried to be kind and there was nothing I did really to land me in a place like this.

My grandfather (who died in 1958, 17 years before I was born) was standing next to me. We talked some, and he told me it would be okay and to take an offshoot of the tunnel. I'd know where it was, and I had to take it.

I went through the tunnel alone the only comfort of it was my grandfather. Hands came out of the wall grabbing at me, the noise was nothing I have heard or can really explain to anyone else. Everything was amplified and I cannot tell you the terror of that "walk".

I took the fork, felt like I was cosmically bitch slapped and woke up in my hospital bed weak, with a blood transfusion going but I was alive.

The other time, I mentioned I was sick on here and had a high fever and in my hallucination, my great grandmother was taking care of me and trying to break my fever. I knew my dad (who is dead) was outside of my bedroom and my grandfather kept him from me, telling me it wasn't my time yet. I was terribly upset over him keeping my dad from me, and he told me it wasn't my time yet.

Other then the terrible grief over losing my dad again, it was just, apparently, not my time.

At any time during your torment, did you think to pray and call to Jesus?

I had sleep paralysis a lot when I was in high school. You do experience an evil presence when you're trapped in your body. But you don't have to put up with it - you have another option if you are willing to take that path.

The best way I could describe it is a warming light that envelops your body.

Thank you for sharing your experience!
These things and experiences kinda confirm to me that everything is scripted in our life, like we're living in a movie cassette or dvd where everything is written to happen in a certain way and we like fools suffering from alzheimers thinking we control our future, we have freedom, choices etc.

Now that i think of it, it's similar to dreams where many times i gained consciousness inside dreams and while it felt like real life i was able to replay events, zoom in, go back and rewind to take another look at things etc just like we do in vhs cassettes or dvds!

This reminds me in virtuosity where sid at the end was put in a sandbox/controlled computer environment. And looking at the plane/planet we live in everything made from sand particles kinda gives away that we might live in a freaking sand box too.

Oh the illuminati card game end of the world card just came to mind which shows exactly what i just suspected our world/us living inside a tv vhs cassette!

When i first saw that card it so didnt make sense to me at all, i thought its maker was trolling or f*cking around, now i'm like holly freaking cow!

Love me some black goo flesh/cerebrum.

The way i look at these experiences right now, imagine our flesh having its own consciousness like spiderman venom/black goo agent smith all connected through our subconsciousness like a hive mind. At death or ndes or obes we never really escape/exit the flesh but simply the flesh f*cking with us the whole time identically it does with dreams every time we sleep where it does an amazing job fooling us that what we experience is real.
Since the black goo flesh is a hive mind, it has all memories and personalities of all humans alive and passed away stored and ready to use at any human victim.
In short your loved ones you saw in your experience are like mystique from xmen, they can have the memories, personality and form of your loved ones but they are black goo/mystique in disguise.

I've come across nde stories where people were fooled and tricked by their dead loved ones and still couldnt figure how and why.

See also an episode from star trek tv series with an nde and the dead loved one father welcoming his just passed away daughter, only like the wolf from little red riding hood he was disguised and pretending to be her real father.

When my dog dies, he'll be dead forever.

When I die, I'll be dead forever.

An afterlife is a fond wish, but it is just made up.

Yeah the first time it happened i was still religious and praying to jesus happened like an instant muscle reaction from the many years of my religious programming.

Later i noticed those entities loved to put me in this mode of calling jesus(their boss) for help, so i tried and found other ways to break free from sleep paralysis and one of those was to close my eyes try to move my fingers open my eyes and repeat, after couple tries i was breaking free.

Here's a fact.
We didnt choose to be here, life/live=evil chose for us.
So if there's more life/evil after death, you think life/evil is going to ask for your permission?

No.

Since I accepted Jesus as Savior sleep paralysis no longer has power over me--- I remember one time I was in this state and could not get out-- then I called on Jesus-- and bam I was out.

Put those events under the power of Christ. They have no power over you anymore-- you have been given authority through the redemptive work of Christ.

This is important information. Please keep such important information only in its relevant thread (listed below). Thank you for your cooperation OP.

Thread: Bat Shit Crazy Thread. (Page 118)

Wow!

This absolutely must be true!

After all, it's completely founded in opinion and soundly supported with fictional movies!

Unless you actually died, you know nothing!

Thing is, if your theory is true, we probably existed before we were born into these bodies, trapped within this black goo system you speak of. So aren't children already part of that system too?

aren't=weren't

It's a soul-ar system as in one system of many planes of augmented reality. What you experience is in your body. On my first trip I was scared by how insignificant this plane is.

We respawn at our starting point?

The Bible disagrees, it states "the dead sleep, the dead know nothing" (they await 1 of 3 resurrections).

From this thread!
Thread: Hellraiser 1987 The Pleasure Box/Prison Cube Symbolizes Our Human Body! (Page 3)

I just saw the hellraiser hellseeker. Here they told straight to our face of our human body to be a prison.

-Your body's completely healed.
If there's any pain
in your head...
it's in your head.
Your soul is locked up inside you.

The human body/prison cube was shown also and as a bait the lunar boss uses to catch souls, which reminded me truman cash's thread
Thread: IN BETWEEN LIVES & OUT OF BODY ABDUCTIONS (Truman's past lives regression)
where is mentioned how it is done and how pleasures like sex play a big role to lure souls inside the human flesh to experience the pleasure and then the flesh captures them through a method similar to electroshock or tazing.

What blew me away is at the very end this movie verified what i mentioned in this thread
Thread: What Happens When You Die! MUST READ!

From my sleep paralysis experiences i noticed that at death our consciousness remains trapped within this body for a good while!

In vin diesel's witch hunter movie i think it was mentioned to be 3 days our consciousness/soul remains in the body after death.(or trapped until the lunar bees/angels/demons show up to pick up their food! remember our own traitor black goo flesh is working against us!)

And just like in vin diesel's movie you can see here in hellseeker how both were talking to the dead like his consciousness was still alive and inside the body and able to hear them and see them!

-Sorry I had to leave you like that
for a minute, Trev. I'm back.
Can you hear me, Trevor?
-Jesus, Allison. What possesses
you to talk to cadavers?
-What if there's no afterlife?(meaning what if he is still alive and conscious inside that dead body!!!!)
Wouldn't you want someone to talk
to you like a normal human being?
-You're creeping me out.
And I'm the coroner.

Also in this movie they made a lot more clear and obvious what they showed in hellraiser 3, 4 and 5 and that is the 2 different consciousness that live in symbiosis inside a human body!

In ghost in the shell was shown the one is us and the other is the puppet master/lunar boss/professor x who is connected to all human containers like a hive mind!

-Here's what I believe, Trevor.
I believe you and me
have a lot in common.
I believe each of us
are the sum of two...
entirely different people.
-No.
I know who I am.
And I'm not a killer.
-Denial to the end.
That's what I like about you, kid!
Good and bad, Trevor.
Honest, dishonest.
Righteous and evil.
That's how we're all made.
A little of both.
It's just a question
of how much...
of each.
And we're made up of just
the right parts of both.
A little heavier on the evil, huh?
It's all good, Trev.
It's all good!
(Reminded me an ancient philosopher who had said "in the eyes of god all is good!" of course all is good in someone's eyes as long everything goes according to their sick freaking plan.)

Humans live their lives asleep and they know nothing, in short humans are dead and the tragedy of being dead is not knowing you're dead is included in the list of "knowing nothing!"

You might wanna watch "man of steel" where god/father of kal el(meaning son of god in hebrew) said "on this planet everyone is already dead!"

Yes, the demons come for you when you die........unless you're protected and one of Jesus's people, then the angels come for you and take you to heaven.

You seriously need to think about this OP.