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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74717884 Ireland 04/19/2017 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I look for meteorites over here in Ireland & last year while out searching, I found a couple of strange objects. I sent NASA a couple of photos & to my surprise, NASA got back in touch & asked if I would send the objects over to them for analysis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74717884 I was willing to send one, however NASA did not like my reply & started to make accusations along the line that it was not possible for these objects to be found outside of the US, so I must have acquired them by some other means. I ended up handing one of the objects over to the Irish authorities a couple of months back, so far I have not heard back, I don't expect that I will either. pix please or ur just another bs'r I should really start another thread about this as there is tonnes of info to go through. But for now here is a link to nuggetshooter prospecting forum where I posted photos a while back. Originally I thought this object was a rock, however it's a bone fragment - the photos of this fragment is what I sent to NASA. There is one particular photo, which was of particular interest to NASA, it is not documented here. I have also not made reference to my contact with NASA in the nuggetshooter forum as I initiated contact after I was posting to the forum. [link to www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71285249 United States 04/19/2017 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Lake Elsinore, CA — Here at the Free Thought Project, we’ve seen some outright insanity when it comes to the actions of government and the police state. However, a grandma being raided by a NASA police force so they can steal her dead husband’s moon rock, is definitely up there. When Joann Davis was 75, she hit some hard financial times after finding herself raising grandchildren following her daughter’s death and her son’s illness. So, being the resourceful grandmother that she is, Davis began to think of ways to earn some extra cash. Then it hit her. Her first husband, Robert Davis worked as an Apollo 11 engineer, and he saved a paperweight with moon material and another with a bit of the heat shield. Joann, who also worked for the space program at the time, came up with the idea that she’d ask NASA if they’d like to buy it from her, so she could raise some funds to feed her grandchildren. Brilliant, right? Well, to most people with common sense, this is a great idea. However, to the American police state, it’s a felony. Now, Davis is attempting to sue officials for the brutal and humiliating treatment she endured at the hands of NASA agents. The lead agent “organized a sting operation involving six armed officers to forcibly seize a Lucite paperweight containing a moon rock the size of a rice grain from an elderly grandmother,” wrote Judge Sidney Thomas of the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals in the recent decision allowing Davis to sue, per the Los Angeles Times. MORE: [link to thefreethoughtproject.com] Cant let this "moon rock" into the wrong hands of a scientist that can determin its actual origins haha. Keep the lie going at all costs. Exactly. Common sense would tell you the moon isn't real but majority people don't have any sense. Think about our moon is in perfect orbit with out planet so perfect that we never see the dark side of it NO moon other than ours has this trait. Also another thing is we where a species pushing towards space travel then all of sudden we just stopped. The dark side of the moon is an entire city covered in light and the elites know this. The moon is scientifically impossible in the laws of nature. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68967035 Canada 04/21/2017 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | possession of stolen property. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70381019 Nobody can legitimately own a moon rock. NASA gave the paper weights to the people in the control room after the flight. Stolen? How did you pull that out of your ass?!!!! There was no theft involved!!!!! if this is how she came to be in possession of said moon rock her and her lawyer will be will be in the money but i see a long wait for that perhaps she will die before that evens happens . on a other note why all the commotion there must be something they are trying to hide be it 1/the rock is fake and the moon landings never happened, 2/ there could even be some sort of monitoring device inside , 3/ that tests on it could reveal something they don't want anyone to know about our moon very interesting indeed |
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The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This happened in 2011. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD The lady tried to sell it for $1.7 million. Definitely trafficking in stolen goods. Wow, yeah, that definitely puts it in perspective. "Just trying to feed her grandkids" and become an instant millionaire, sure, no selfish motives there... Remember kids, only buy and sell legal moon rocks. Selling government property is a good way to get raided. Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut On a completely unrelated note, I have a small lunar meteorite. It's less than a gram and worth about $300. She did not know what she was doing was illegal and they should have just told her and took it and ended the story. Now they have a stain on their books and her in her britches. It doesn't take much searching online to realize that it's illegal to try to sell moon rocks from the Apollo program, no matter who your dead husband says he got it from. She doesn't get any sympathy from me. She's not the only person out there who's received NASA property of questionable legality from dead family members. It's never a good idea to try to sell NASA property. Especially for $1.7 million lol. [link to www.space.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70186654 United States 04/21/2017 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. Common sense would tell you the moon isn't real but majority people don't have any sense. Think about our moon is in perfect orbit with out planet so perfect that we never see the dark side of it NO moon other than ours has this trait. Also another thing is we where a species pushing towards space travel then all of sudden we just stopped. The dark side of the moon is an entire city covered in light and the elites know this. The moon is scientifically impossible in the laws of nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71285249 Wrong. The majority of moons in the solar system have this same trait. |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. Common sense would tell you the moon isn't real but majority people don't have any sense. Think about our moon is in perfect orbit with out planet so perfect that we never see the dark side of it NO moon other than ours has this trait. Also another thing is we where a species pushing towards space travel then all of sudden we just stopped. The dark side of the moon is an entire city covered in light and the elites know this. The moon is scientifically impossible in the laws of nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71285249 Wrong. The majority of moons in the solar system have this same trait. Tidal lock is a natural consequence of gravity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68782227 United States 04/21/2017 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This happened in 2011. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD The lady tried to sell it for $1.7 million. Definitely trafficking in stolen goods. Wow, yeah, that definitely puts it in perspective. "Just trying to feed her grandkids" and become an instant millionaire, sure, no selfish motives there... Remember kids, only buy and sell legal moon rocks. Selling government property is a good way to get raided. Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut On a completely unrelated note, I have a small lunar meteorite. It's less than a gram and worth about $300. She did not know what she was doing was illegal and they should have just told her and took it and ended the story. Now they have a stain on their books and her in her britches. It doesn't take much searching online to realize that it's illegal to try to sell moon rocks from the Apollo program, no matter who your dead husband says he got it from. She doesn't get any sympathy from me. She's not the only person out there who's received NASA property of questionable legality from dead family members. It's never a good idea to try to sell NASA property. Especially for $1.7 million lol. [link to www.space.com] How is that rock NASA property or stolen? If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? They certainly weren't concerned when it was a paper weight All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale |
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The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This happened in 2011. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD The lady tried to sell it for $1.7 million. Definitely trafficking in stolen goods. Wow, yeah, that definitely puts it in perspective. "Just trying to feed her grandkids" and become an instant millionaire, sure, no selfish motives there... ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74716128 She did not know what she was doing was illegal and they should have just told her and took it and ended the story. Now they have a stain on their books and her in her britches. It doesn't take much searching online to realize that it's illegal to try to sell moon rocks from the Apollo program, no matter who your dead husband says he got it from. She doesn't get any sympathy from me. She's not the only person out there who's received NASA property of questionable legality from dead family members. It's never a good idea to try to sell NASA property. Especially for $1.7 million lol. [link to www.space.com] How is that rock NASA property or stolen? Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | possession of stolen property. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70381019 Nobody can legitimately own a moon rock. Who the hell owns the moon? It's not the moon they own, it's the rocks they collected during Apollo. I own a moon rock too, or rather, a little pebble of a rock. Mine is from a lunar meteorite though which fell to earth naturally. I own that tiny piece of the moon and if anyone stole it from me and tried to sell it, they'd be a thief and I would be within my rights to press charges against them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68782227 United States 04/21/2017 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This happened in 2011. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD The lady tried to sell it for $1.7 million. Definitely trafficking in stolen goods. Wow, yeah, that definitely puts it in perspective. "Just trying to feed her grandkids" and become an instant millionaire, sure, no selfish motives there... ... Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut It doesn't take much searching online to realize that it's illegal to try to sell moon rocks from the Apollo program, no matter who your dead husband says he got it from. She doesn't get any sympathy from me. She's not the only person out there who's received NASA property of questionable legality from dead family members. It's never a good idea to try to sell NASA property. Especially for $1.7 million lol. [link to www.space.com] How is that rock NASA property or stolen? Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46444686 United States 04/21/2017 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut Wow, yeah, that definitely puts it in perspective. "Just trying to feed her grandkids" and become an instant millionaire, sure, no selfish motives there... ... It's never a good idea to try to sell NASA property. Especially for $1.7 million lol. [link to www.space.com] How is that rock NASA property or stolen? Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? All we have is Neil's word that he didn't give anyone any rocks or samples from mission |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut Wow, yeah, that definitely puts it in perspective. "Just trying to feed her grandkids" and become an instant millionaire, sure, no selfish motives there... ... It's never a good idea to try to sell NASA property. Especially for $1.7 million lol. [link to www.space.com] How is that rock NASA property or stolen? Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? NASA doesn't just give away moon rocks. Even the moon rocks they "gave" to the astronauts who flew the missions were purely ceremonial; the astronaut would then "donate" their moon rock to a museum for display. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68782227 United States 04/21/2017 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? All we have is Neil's word that he didn't give anyone any rocks or samples from mission Well, that's next to nothing. Watch the fanboys take this as gospel |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? All we have is Neil's word that he didn't give anyone any rocks or samples from mission Even if Neil Armstrong had given him a moon rock, which is extraordinarily unlikely in the first place, it was never his to give. Any moon rock he collected as part of his mission was done "on the clock" and belongs to NASA. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68782227 United States 04/21/2017 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. If someone were willing to pay that much, what concern is that of a government agency? Free market right? Quoting: ACBlack market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. All I see is a corrupt agency pursuing damage control rather than have another "Dutch Rock" incident to tarnish their fairy tale Quoting: ACNASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? NASA doesn't just give away moon rocks. Even the moon rocks they "gave" to the astronauts who flew the missions were purely ceremonial; the astronaut would then "donate" their moon rock to a museum for display. So do you have proof he stole it? Or not? Did NASA catalog moon rocks? Was this particular rock reported missing? |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut Because NASA collected it from the moon, it's not a lunar meteorite, it's a lunar rock from the Apollo program. They own it. ... Black market, not free market. It belongs to NASA, not to her, not to her late husband. ... NASA didn't give Drees any rock. He got it via the state department, allegedly. That piece of petrified wood is quite different from any of NASA's moon rocks. They don't own shit if it were given to him. Do you or anyone have proof this gentlemen stole it? All we have is Neil's word that he didn't give anyone any rocks or samples from mission Well, that's next to nothing. Watch the fanboys take this as gospel Doesn't matter in the first place; even if Neil Armstrong personally gave him that rock (which was likely just a cover story for the theft), that would still not be legal. The only moon rock NASA "gave" to Neil was in turn donated by Neil to a museum in Cincinnati where it is on display to this day. [link to www.cincymuseum.org] [link to www.foxnews.com] |
The Deplorable Astromut Senior Forum Moderator 04/21/2017 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro have you ever touched seen the rock on display at smithsonian in DC? I did last year that thing is freaky Quoting: Astral Goat No, but I touched the one they have on display here at the Saturn V Center. I now have my own (not NASA's since it wasn't from Apollo) and won't be touching that snot-covered one in the museum anymore ;) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46444686 United States 04/21/2017 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro have you ever touched seen the rock on display at smithsonian in DC? I did last year that thing is freaky Quoting: Astral Goat No, but I touched the one they have on display here at the Saturn V Center. I now have my own (not NASA's since it wasn't from Apollo) and won't be touching that snot-covered one in the museum anymore ;) hahaha thx man |