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What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?

 
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Andrew Napolitano: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?

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Andrew Napolitano

By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
·Published April 20, 2017
· FoxNews.com

What if our belief in self-government is a belief in a myth? What if the election of one political party over the other to control Congress changes only appearances? What if taxes stay high and regulations stay pervasive and the government stays oppressive and presidents fight wars no matter what the politicians promise and no matter who wins elections? What if the true goal of those whom we elect to Congress is not to be our agents of self-government or even to preserve our personal liberties but to remain in power by getting re-elected?

What if they use government to aid their own re-elections by bribing us with our own money -- the rich with bailouts, the middle class with tax breaks and the poor with transfer payments?

What if Congress has written laws that are too complex for its own members to read and understand? What if the language of most federal laws is intentionally arcane so that ordinary voters cannot understand it? What if that language is actually written by faceless bureaucrats and not by accountable members of Congress? What if members of Congress in fact rarely read any legislation before voting on it? What if some legislation refers to secrets and secret procedures that only a few members of Congress are permitted to see and utilize?

What if when the select few members of Congress who are permitted to see those secrets do see them, those members are themselves sworn to secrecy? What if that means that our elected representatives -- our supposed agents of self-government in the government -- do not fully know what the government is doing and that even if they do, they canít legally tell us?

What if our representatives in Congress donít really represent us? What if they really represent a political party? What if each political party is controlled by a small leadership group that punishes members who defy it? What if Congress has written laws and rules that permit its leaders to punish membersí defiance? What if another way to characterize defiance of political party leadership is political courage?

What if the laws that Congress has written about the CIA have delegated congressional power to a small secret committee of members from both houses of Congress and both political parties? What if that committee can authorize secret wars in foreign lands conducted not by the military but by the CIA? What if the reason these folks authorize the CIA and not the military to conduct secret wars is the existence of federal laws that require reporting to and a vote of the entire Congress for the military to be used but require only the small secret committee to approve for the CIA to be used?

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Re: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?
It's clear that we don't.

It's not a federal thing either, it's local.

Consider all of your shitty local ordinances and decisions like traffic cameras that give you automatic tickets...did I vote for those?

No I did not, nor would I.

Nor would anyone I know.

So who approved that shit?
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who thinks the judge is going to be taken out soon?
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tl;dr
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What if we donít really govern ourselves? What do we do about it?
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The herd is too stupid to govern themselves.

However, giving them the false conception that they do, makes them easier to control by the true government.
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tl;dr
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What if we donít really govern ourselves? What do we do about it?
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We should have remained hunter-gatherers, the best lifestyle for the human animal.

This civilized way of life is slavery, and it's destroying the planet.
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We aren't self-governed. We are ruled and enslaved by greedy idiots.

Thus one reason I have chosen not to reproduce.
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>50%
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Re: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?
Duh.

There's nothing but law and order.

Or in other words oppression and the restriction of freedom.


You either obey because you're governed by a tyrannical set of laws - take taxes for example.

Or you'll pay the price in a variety of ways not limited to a jail or prison sentence.
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Just pretty words.......

By the People, For the People..

Meritocracy....

Liberty
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We aren't self-governed. We are ruled and enslaved by greedy idiots.

Thus one reason I have chosen not to reproduce.
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Yes! Why can't more people understand this?

In another circumstance, I would have children, and family.

But I will be damned before I'll crank out slaves and cannon fodder for these scumbags running this wicked planet.
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It's clear that we don't.

It's not a federal thing either, it's local.

Consider all of your shitty local ordinances and decisions like traffic cameras that give you automatic tickets...did I vote for those?

No I did not, nor would I.

Nor would anyone I know.

So who approved that shit?
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Meh. Alot of police jurisdictions pre sell 'next years ticket revenue' to the highest bidders (usually insurance companies) to help with 'this years budget.'

This is why you get tougher laws and photo radar.

Revenue generation at its finest.
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We aren't self-governed. We are ruled and enslaved by greedy idiots.

Thus one reason I have chosen not to reproduce.
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Yes! Why can't more people understand this?

In another circumstance, I would have children, and family.

But I will be damned before I'll crank out slaves and cannon fodder for these scumbags running this wicked planet.
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If only there were more intelligent individuals such as yourself.
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"What if they use government to aid their own re-elections by bribing us with our own money -- the rich with bailouts, the middle class with tax breaks and the poor with transfer payments?"

If this isn't retardly obvious nothing is.

Since the creation of income tax politicians use tax dollars and future gov't debt as bones to toss at the loudest whiners in exchange for votes.

"Only take advice from those who've done it better than you."

"Success is directly related to the amount of 'correct' bullshit one is willing to endure."
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There are indications that in ancient times, even further back than we are allowed to know, because the records and evidence have been purposely destroyed, that a matriarchal society preceded the current patriarchal. There were indications it was a golden age, and people were not taught violence and fighting.

Then as men became the rulers overthrowing the matriarch, the wars and violence has been perpetual. Like or not, it seems like the Goddess is all throughout the Bible, as hard as they tried to dispel her, she is there in the gematria and elsewhere.
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He asks "what if" and describes things that every intelligent person has known to be facts for decades.

It must be a lawyers trick for escaping personal accountability for what he says.

Lawyers never talk directly.

The entire government and its friends in in every major enterprise in the country is a vile criminal organization.

Most of the people running it, and many of their servants, deserve nothing more than to be taken out and shot.

Is that direct enough?
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The herd is too stupid to govern themselves.

However, giving them the false conception that they do, makes them easier to control by the true government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904688


They would not be stupid if they were forced to govern themselves.
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who thinks the judge is going to be taken out soon?
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Those who see the writing on the wall no longer have any fear.

When a man has nothing to lose.
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Whatever you do, DON'T THINK OR TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS!!



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Government is technology we created to automate the process of law. Like any other technology, it expands.

Its like a humanoid becoming aware and turning into the terminator.
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There are indications that in ancient times, even further back than we are allowed to know, because the records and evidence have been purposely destroyed, that a matriarchal society preceded the current patriarchal. There were indications it was a golden age, and people were not taught violence and fighting.

Then as men became the rulers overthrowing the matriarch, the wars and violence has been perpetual. Like or not, it seems like the Goddess is all throughout the Bible, as hard as they tried to dispel her, she is there in the gematria and elsewhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904688


On one level I agree and on another I don't.

Women love it when men fight for them, or just fight in general. It's like a natural high for women.

I just don't see a woman-ruled society as peaceful.

I think violence is an inherent issue with the human animal.
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Nah....

I think that the idea that we can never regain self-government again is the REAL myth.
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We aren't self-governed. We are ruled and enslaved by greedy idiots.

Thus one reason I have chosen not to reproduce.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725985


Yes! Why can't more people understand this?

In another circumstance, I would have children, and family.

But I will be damned before I'll crank out slaves and cannon fodder for these scumbags running this wicked planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904688


If only there were more intelligent individuals such as yourself.
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Well, thank you, agree and right back at you!
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In another age, this man would have been one of the signators of the USA Constitution, in this, one of the last voices of reason , truth and understanding.
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Andrew Napolitano: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?

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Andrew Napolitano

By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
·Published April 20, 2017
· FoxNews.com

What if our belief in self-government is a belief in a myth? What if the election of one political party over the other to control Congress changes only appearances? What if taxes stay high and regulations stay pervasive and the government stays oppressive and presidents fight wars no matter what the politicians promise and no matter who wins elections? What if the true goal of those whom we elect to Congress is not to be our agents of self-government or even to preserve our personal liberties but to remain in power by getting re-elected?

What if they use government to aid their own re-elections by bribing us with our own money -- the rich with bailouts, the middle class with tax breaks and the poor with transfer payments?

What if Congress has written laws that are too complex for its own members to read and understand? What if the language of most federal laws is intentionally arcane so that ordinary voters cannot understand it? What if that language is actually written by faceless bureaucrats and not by accountable members of Congress? What if members of Congress in fact rarely read any legislation before voting on it? What if some legislation refers to secrets and secret procedures that only a few members of Congress are permitted to see and utilize?

What if when the select few members of Congress who are permitted to see those secrets do see them, those members are themselves sworn to secrecy? What if that means that our elected representatives -- our supposed agents of self-government in the government -- do not fully know what the government is doing and that even if they do, they canít legally tell us?

What if our representatives in Congress donít really represent us? What if they really represent a political party? What if each political party is controlled by a small leadership group that punishes members who defy it? What if Congress has written laws and rules that permit its leaders to punish membersí defiance? What if another way to characterize defiance of political party leadership is political courage?

What if the laws that Congress has written about the CIA have delegated congressional power to a small secret committee of members from both houses of Congress and both political parties? What if that committee can authorize secret wars in foreign lands conducted not by the military but by the CIA? What if the reason these folks authorize the CIA and not the military to conduct secret wars is the existence of federal laws that require reporting to and a vote of the entire Congress for the military to be used but require only the small secret committee to approve for the CIA to be used?

More:
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 Quoting: RedHeadedStepChild


No doubt government no longer exists for the benefit of the citizens. Quite the opposite now. It exists to the detriment of this nations citizens.
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There are indications that in ancient times, even further back than we are allowed to know, because the records and evidence have been purposely destroyed, that a matriarchal society preceded the current patriarchal. There were indications it was a golden age, and people were not taught violence and fighting.

Then as men became the rulers overthrowing the matriarch, the wars and violence has been perpetual. Like or not, it seems like the Goddess is all throughout the Bible, as hard as they tried to dispel her, she is there in the gematria and elsewhere.
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Lol and that is total bullshit. Women can't manage themselves out side of a kitchen. Most today can't even handle the kitchen.
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