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What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?

 
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what if

we all know this is how the system works,
and working it does, for a selected group
of people. and we all know were to look
for them!

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I just don't see a woman-ruled society as peaceful.

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They can be peaceful enough, but they are also very consensus oriented, and therefore slow to adapt.

A modern example of a woman-ruled society is modern Sweden, and it is failing fast.
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Great cartoon ... especially # 1. I modified to to have pope on top.

Last Edited by JWP on 04/20/2017 11:24 AM
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He is right. We used to have self governance. That went away after WW2. Ike was right, the military-industrial complex is out of control. Our government is bought and paid for by special interests. Lobbyists are criminals throughout the world, except in America. Here they run the government.
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tl;dr
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What if we donít really govern ourselves? What do we do about it?
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We should have remained hunter-gatherers, the best lifestyle for the human animal.

This civilized way of life is slavery, and it's destroying the planet.
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^ more Truth here than most can comprehend!
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Tupper Saussy. Great man. You never heard of him. Why ? Because he was a great man.

Tupper Saussy ... "Rulers of Evil"
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He is right. We used to have self governance. That went away after WW2. Ike was right, the military-industrial complex is out of control. Our government is bought and paid for by special interests. Lobbyists are criminals throughout the world, except in America. Here they run the government.
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WW1 was the start of the'destroying your constitutional rights' era.
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What if everyone took a lesson from the meth heads. They don't pay taxes, they trade and barter for everything. They have ebt cards for food which they trade for meth. The see a lawn mower sitting beside a house, they take it and trade it for meth. Now for a second think about what that, done ethically, would do to the local, state and federal government. You have no income, so I qualify for EBT. You paint someone's garage for some bread, steaks, hamburger and chicken food. You shovel chicken shit in return for a couple of hens and a rooster. Soon you have your own chicken farm. No taxes collected on sales, no declarable income. The system would collapse because of all the government employees that need paychecks to pay their mortgages, etc.
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The herd is too stupid to govern themselves.

However, giving them the false conception that they do, makes them easier to control by the true government.
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The herd is stupid because they were created that way.

The education system is purposely set up to indoctrinate the masses into submission and distraction.

If no one teaches a child how to read...that child will NEVER be able to read.

And it's not the child's fault that he is unable to do or know something that was kept hidden from him.

Yet we have a society filled with people who think themselves intelligent and independent thinkers. Everyone thinks themselves smarter than everyone else. Yet everything a person knows or believes was installed into his brain from an outside source. Even the ability to think critically is a learned skill that doesn't come naturally.


The "elite" want to take out the white, middle class because it's the last group of people that have the resources and grit to fight for their freedoms and rights.

The rest of the world is filled with third Worlders who will forever be oppressed peasants. Because they are easy to manipulate, brainwash and enslave.
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Welcome back, Red.

hf
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It's clear that we don't.

It's not a federal thing either, it's local.

Consider all of your shitty local ordinances and decisions like traffic cameras that give you automatic tickets...did I vote for those?

No I did not, nor would I.

Nor would anyone I know.

So who approved that shit?
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you did by your ignorance of monetary law, go back to sleep
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yeppers. sums it up nicely,
democracy is a failed experiment.
succumbed to the rapacious appetites
of greed and corruption of the
powerful few.
now they walk the earth with impunity
like veritable god-kings.

genuflection is not optional.
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Dudes eye glasses are filthy.

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Andrew Napolitano: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?

[link to www.foxnews.com]

Andrew Napolitano

By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano
·Published April 20, 2017
· FoxNews.com

What if our belief in self-government is a belief in a myth? What if the election of one political party over the other to control Congress changes only appearances? What if taxes stay high and regulations stay pervasive and the government stays oppressive and presidents fight wars no matter what the politicians promise and no matter who wins elections? What if the true goal of those whom we elect to Congress is not to be our agents of self-government or even to preserve our personal liberties but to remain in power by getting re-elected?

What if they use government to aid their own re-elections by bribing us with our own money -- the rich with bailouts, the middle class with tax breaks and the poor with transfer payments?

What if Congress has written laws that are too complex for its own members to read and understand? What if the language of most federal laws is intentionally arcane so that ordinary voters cannot understand it? What if that language is actually written by faceless bureaucrats and not by accountable members of Congress? What if members of Congress in fact rarely read any legislation before voting on it? What if some legislation refers to secrets and secret procedures that only a few members of Congress are permitted to see and utilize?

What if when the select few members of Congress who are permitted to see those secrets do see them, those members are themselves sworn to secrecy? What if that means that our elected representatives -- our supposed agents of self-government in the government -- do not fully know what the government is doing and that even if they do, they canít legally tell us?

What if our representatives in Congress donít really represent us? What if they really represent a political party? What if each political party is controlled by a small leadership group that punishes members who defy it? What if Congress has written laws and rules that permit its leaders to punish membersí defiance? What if another way to characterize defiance of political party leadership is political courage?

What if the laws that Congress has written about the CIA have delegated congressional power to a small secret committee of members from both houses of Congress and both political parties? What if that committee can authorize secret wars in foreign lands conducted not by the military but by the CIA? What if the reason these folks authorize the CIA and not the military to conduct secret wars is the existence of federal laws that require reporting to and a vote of the entire Congress for the military to be used but require only the small secret committee to approve for the CIA to be used?

More:
[link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: RedHeadedStepChild


I don't think he told any of us anything we didn't already know in most cases and suspect in others.

ACA proves congress doesn't write shit or read shit. People like Maxine Waters and a few others prove they don't need to know the laws, just vote the way the party dictates.

DNC has complete power over all members of D party. ck
RNC still has rebellious factions
Leaders of party punish those who don't comply? You bet. Look no further than John Bawhner and his punishment toward tea party members, like Michelle Bachman.

McPain and others prove there is a select group of "know it alls" who stay in power for freaking ever and seem to have their own secret armies. Why else would he be jetting over to the ME and Europe all the damn time?

Yea, it's a swamp with 100 year old gators that have become old, crafty and fat off of Americans.
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nikinto The Democrats put up the wrong person for President. If they would have dumped Hillery and ran Camacho for President it would have been a shoo in. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Love the Judge.
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tl;dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725985


What if we donít really govern ourselves? What do we do about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725648


We should have remained hunter-gatherers, the best lifestyle for the human animal.

This civilized way of life is slavery, and it's destroying the planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725985


this is so true! Fashion, things and technology will never make us more happy anyway.
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Re: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?
It's clear that we don't.

It's not a federal thing either, it's local.

Consider all of your shitty local ordinances and decisions like traffic cameras that give you automatic tickets...did I vote for those?

No I did not, nor would I.

Nor would anyone I know.

So who approved that shit?
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


you did by your ignorance of monetary law, go back to sleep
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72034340


Even when they force through some stupid regulation, they lie about it.

The seat belt law is a good example. People opposed it but they kept solemnly promising that they would never pull over people for not using their seat belts, they might only add it to other infractions if they pulled someone over for something else.

That changed fast to buckle up or pay up.
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"You have to be asleep to believe it." - GC
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There are indications that in ancient times, even further back than we are allowed to know, because the records and evidence have been purposely destroyed, that a matriarchal society preceded the current patriarchal. There were indications it was a golden age, and people were not taught violence and fighting.

Then as men became the rulers overthrowing the matriarch, the wars and violence has been perpetual. Like or not, it seems like the Goddess is all throughout the Bible, as hard as they tried to dispel her, she is there in the gematria and elsewhere.
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Lol and that is total bullshit. Women can't manage themselves out side of a kitchen. Most today can't even handle the kitchen.
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I agree.

Anyone who has lived in a house run completely by women, has seen chaos, filth, continually shifting and unfair rules, and near poverty brought on by vanity - makeup, clothes, furs, diamonds, and such are the highest spending priority.

If the government weren't supporting women, you would see miserable, homeless women everywhere, hauling sick babies around.
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I don't think he told any of us anything we didn't already know in most cases and suspect in others.

ACA proves congress doesn't write shit or read shit. People like Maxine Waters and a few others prove they don't need to know the laws, just vote the way the party dictates.

DNC has complete power over all members of D party. ck
RNC still has rebellious factions
Leaders of party punish those who don't comply? You bet. Look no further than John Bawhner and his punishment toward tea party members, like Michelle Bachman.

McPain and others prove there is a select group of "know it alls" who stay in power for freaking ever and seem to have their own secret armies. Why else would he be jetting over to the ME and Europe all the damn time?

Yea, it's a swamp with 100 year old gators that have become old, crafty and fat off of Americans.
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But it really goes deeper that this. If self-govt is a myth, that means the election, news, political parties, are also myths but myths intended to keep us busy/entertained.
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doesn't matter, constitution or nothing..the ones who don't believe this are the problem and always have been
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tl;dr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725985


What if we donít really govern ourselves? What do we do about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725648


We should have remained hunter-gatherers, the best lifestyle for the human animal.

This civilized way of life is slavery, and it's destroying the planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74725985


Puny Jacob make food. Esau give anything for to eat some.

Anything!? - Jacob senses his chance to score and score big.

And that´s the art of the deal my dear.
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What if?

Well, our country would be in the very state it is in today.
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The herd is too stupid to govern themselves.

However, giving them the false conception that they do, makes them easier to control by the true government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904688


Napolitano is always right on these sort of 'questions'.

So was George Carlin.

There's only one club/party, folks..

..and you're not in it!
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it's misguided and myth-guided
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Re: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?
Yep this country is shit. Every fucking thing is taxed about 50% of your earnings go to the state. The American Revolution was figure bc the colonists got fed the fuck up with paying 15% taxes. Now the closest thing to making any real change is a bunch of fuxking loser bloggers calling themselves oath keepers and faggots modding their ARs and posting pictures of them ok the net with some bad ass quote underneath. Bunch of fucking losers.
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doesn't matter, constitution or nothing..the ones who don't believe this are the problem and always have been
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Look where your "constitution" got you Glenn beck boy. Sanctuary cities, 50% of your income taxed for complete bullshit, and every email you've ever written saved for later scrutiny. All you fags talk about is your guns and constitution but the reality is the USA is shit and you fags will never use your guns to do anything about it.
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Re: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?
It's clear that we don't.

It's not a federal thing either, it's local.

Consider all of your shitty local ordinances and decisions like traffic cameras that give you automatic tickets...did I vote for those?

No I did not, nor would I.

Nor would anyone I know.

So who approved that shit?
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Those cameras aren't local. It's some corporation in NY doing that. In my state it is anyway.
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Re: What if our belief in self-government is just a myth?
We aren't self-governed. We are ruled and enslaved by greedy idiots.

Thus one reason I have chosen not to reproduce.
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Yes! Why can't more people understand this?

In another circumstance, I would have children, and family.

But I will be damned before I'll crank out slaves and cannon fodder for these scumbags running this wicked planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904688


If only there were more intelligent individuals such as yourself.
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Well, thank you, agree and right back at you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69904688


Do you believe people should have restrictions on procreation?


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