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Middle aged IT worker. I see the bad in everything. I see the lies and boogeymen people create to elevate themselves to hero status. Its the marvelization of society. If you can make demographic X evil that equates yourself to hero status. Everyone is practicing it now. Everything is so fucked up now. Im not seeing the point to being miserable anymore. At work I'm chasing an ever smaller piece of pie. You pretty much have to become a pathological liar to advance in corporate America. A fair days wage for a days work was probably always a lie too. Wife's head is buried in TV fantasy soap operas. Somehow its my responsibility to provide a lavish lifestyle even though she's more educated. That's the hoot about American education right now. Women have all these opportunities to become over-educated and no social pressure to do anything with them. Got a doctorate, then start pumping out kids. just finished med school, you deserve a man to take care of you. Its fucked because I don't know one relationship that has survived the woman being the primary bread winner. If your a man and your wife makes more than you. You're looked down upon. period. even if its behind your back.

Im so tired. i don't know ho much longer im hanging in there. Not any time soon, not going to let the dog down. But i'm not going to grow old in this country. I see the hate in these kids eyes. It's going to be much worse here in 10+ years. The globalists have been playing the long game for decades. America will be like that torched restaurant in Goodfellas. They were signing away our futures with their right hand while waiving a flag in the left. always remember nobility largely only exists in fiction. Its the lie that propels society forward.
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Move to gated community and chill.
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I'll put more super glue on my dick so you won't lose your grip....
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I'll put more super glue on my dick so you won't lose your grip....
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I can only get my pinky around that nub. Drink more monster that'll help.
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Start a blog, become a writer. You have some good insights into life in this crazy country.hf
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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I think you're right. I am feeling so dissappointed in Trump.
I do not want anymore wars.
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Oppression ohyeah

State sponsored

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It'll go bankrupt soon
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Just got my third traffic ticket
In 3 weeks
pennywise
Will I wait 9 months on bail
For 4 petty charges
To be heard before a
Argumentative senile charlatan
3 months from now

coffee4

System will just collapse in on itself

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OP nailed it
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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I agree with you, but I believe people are far too self absorbed to even realize what's really going on. I'm at the point that I don't care and welcome war. Something has to happen to affect change.

The USA is over. Our so called government has turned into a self serving dictatorship and clearly doesn't care about the tax paying individuals who support them financially.

I've had enough. I too am a middle aged IT worker and see what's happening very clearly. I don't want to be a part of what's going on. I don't want to contribute my life time and personal resources any longer. It's simply not worth it.
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Just got my third traffic ticket
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coffee4

System will just collapse in on itself
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Your finances are going to collapse because your insurance is going through the roof. I hope you keep you license.
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Your finances are going to collapse because your insurance is going through the roof. I hope you keep you license.
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I'm finished with this system anyhoo

Will swim my way to Thailand next high tide

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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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Fat chance of that. Families will be divided.

I get in arguments with my nephew, who is some kind of psychotic weasel. I have always been very generous with him and his sisters since they were small.

A few yeast ago, he was an adult man living in his mother's house, after she had moved out. Living for free, and mostly unemployed.

He ran the house into the ground. Every inch of it was caked with filth and filled with more flies than you can imagine. Almost all of the windows were broken and the doors were falling off their hinges. Water from the pipes was leaking into the dank, and musty basement, which was full of wet clothes on the floor and all sorts of garbage. The bathroom was filthy and completely trashed, with a broken sink and a rotten hole, more than a foot wide right in front of the toilet. The house should have been condemned.

At my own expense, nearly five thousand dollars, and thousands of hours of labor, I managed to clean the house, fix the bathroom, the leaky pipes, the windows including installing new storm windows, the yard, demolish and rebuild the front porch, and a host of other things, too numerous to mention.

Before I left, I let him have a lot of my stuff, including an expensive stereo system, and a large flat-screen TV, among other things like tools, leather jackets, a table saw, etc.

While I was working on the house, he offered no help, and I was constantly having to clean up after him and his parties. He spent most of his time drunk and stoned. He never even thanked me, and started crying about me paying rent. In a rotten little house that couldn't even legally be rented, where I slept in a large closet sized room in the back while he slept in the master bedroom, I paid him $200.00 per month, but I would have preferred to use the money for materials. I had to quit working when I ran out of money for materials, and I spent the next for months sorting through my stuff, and selling what I couldn't take with me.

Everyone knew for all those months that I was planning to leave, and packing and repacking my car to see how much I could bring with me. I had to leave some things that I couldn't bring with, so I packed them in boxes, ready for shipping, and I told my nephew that I would either send for them when I got a place, or return and pick them up.

When I returned half a year later, my nephew acted distressed and weird, and started accusing me of stealing his stuff. He had to paw through every box I removed, but none of his stuff was in it.

Then he started accusing me of stealing a book of his that he couldn't find. A stupid, little, worthless book! I told him I didn't take it, but he kept insisting I did. I told him that someone had put books that were on shelves in the living room into the basement, and it was probably there. No, he kept insisting I stole it, and he was telling his mother and everyone I stole his book. For months, he kept bitching at me about stealing his book, and when I asked him if he looked in the basement, he claimed he had, and it wasn't there.

A few months ago, I looked around in the basement and found his book. Vindicated with proof, and does anyone even imagine that the very next thing I said to him was that I found his book in the basement where I said it probably was? His reaction was surprising. He just shrugged and said "oh". There was no apology for slandering me.

I am currently sleeping on my sister's couch and planning to go homeless, since I can't find a job. While I had a very wretched, minimum wage job, which didn't pay me enough to find a place of my own, and which was most of last year, I paid my sister $240.00 per month, a third of the rent, to sleep on the couch, and all along, I did most of the housework.

So now I can't pay rent, as I sort out my stuff and try to figure out what I need and what I can carry when I go. I'm still buying my own food and doing most of the house work, and trying not to impose on my sister. I never asked for compensation for the $5000.00 in materials I spent on her house, or any compensation for the thousands of hours of very exhausting and dirty labor on her house.

Yet, after I lost my job, my nephew showed up and started telling me to get a job and contribute. He was talking like the big, swinging dick and lord of the manner, and saying that everyone takes advantage of his mother and I was being a freeloader. Did I need to remind him that he didn't own the whole house he was living in for free? He was the only person present who was still taking advantage of his mother, as he had for many years, while destroying her house.

He was impervious to logic and reason. Nothing I said to him even registered. He just rocked back in his chair, grinning at me, rubbing his fingers together, and saying I had to pay cash.

He really seemed to be acting like his mother's pimp.

Last weekend, we had another argument when I found out he had been telling lies about the book. He had been telling everyone he found the book in a box that I was trying to sneak out of the house with, and he cleverly contrived to ask me about it, and I then reluctantly confessed that I found it. My sister apparently even believed the fabrication. She is not that stupid.

We got in another argument and he recounted his completely delusional version of events. He claimed I had just up and disappeared without telling anyone, and that I had assured him that I would take care of the house and everything. It was completely strange and delusional. I now believe he is a completely deranged psychopath. Something is very very wrong with his brain. Too much drugs? Too much booze? I don't know. Maybe he is simply evil. I have observed that he likes to gaslight people - just about everyone. It is no wonder that his roommate left all of a sudden without notice, at a time when he kept telling me I could kick out his roommate. I had to keep telling him I didn't want to kick out his roommate, and that I liked him. He was a cool guy. His roommate never told me he was leaving, but he left behind many clues and messages that he thought my nephew was evil - really and genuinely evil.

I want to get as far away from that incestuous band of lunatics as I can.

If things are as bad in other families - it is getting very bad.
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Just got my third traffic ticket
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coffee4

System will just collapse in on itself
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That is our prayer.

I red about a logger in Northern Wisconsin a hundred years ago who was hanged for stealing a pair of socks. In that cold, socks could almost be a matter of life or death.

People knew how to treat criminals then, and there weren't a lot of them.
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Move to gated community and chill.
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This. And get a tight set up and grow your own. Safely.
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Times are gone for honest men

dont try to carry the weight of it all ~ no one can- just do what you can do there.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix
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Middle aged IT worker. I see the bad in everything. I see the lies and boogeymen people create to elevate themselves to hero status. Its the marvelization of society. If you can make demographic X evil that equates yourself to hero status. Everyone is practicing it now. Everything is so fucked up now. Im not seeing the point to being miserable anymore. At work I'm chasing an ever smaller piece of pie. You pretty much have to become a pathological liar to advance in corporate America. A fair days wage for a days work was probably always a lie too. Wife's head is buried in TV fantasy soap operas. Somehow its my responsibility to provide a lavish lifestyle even though she's more educated. That's the hoot about American education right now. Women have all these opportunities to become over-educated and no social pressure to do anything with them. Got a doctorate, then start pumping out kids. just finished med school, you deserve a man to take care of you. Its fucked because I don't know one relationship that has survived the woman being the primary bread winner. If your a man and your wife makes more than you. You're looked down upon. period. even if its behind your back.

Im so tired. i don't know ho much longer im hanging in there. Not any time soon, not going to let the dog down. But i'm not going to grow old in this country. I see the hate in these kids eyes. It's going to be much worse here in 10+ years. The globalists have been playing the long game for decades. America will be like that torched restaurant in Goodfellas. They were signing away our futures with their right hand while waiving a flag in the left. always remember nobility largely only exists in fiction. Its the lie that propels society forward.
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Excellent post OP. Please stay here and let's chat.

For one thing, the globalists are the problem. They will push their agenda even if it means WW3. I will not submit and neither should you. I was in a similar situation a few years back -- married, kids, 9-5 job, providing a lavish life.

Wife and I decided to sell our expensive home in NJ and move to Florida. BEST decision ever. First, we made out bandits on the house sale we managed to sell in 2011 when both of us lost our jobs. We could buy 4 homes in Florida for what we sold our house for in NJ. Second, property taxes are 1/4th what they were in NJ.

Now, we work less and spend more time with the kids and we love life. Until the day comes when the globalists take over, we're going to live the good life. Salt Life.
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Move to gated community and chill.
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^this

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Middle aged IT worker. I see the bad in everything. I see the lies and boogeymen people create to elevate themselves to hero status. Its the marvelization of society. If you can make demographic X evil that equates yourself to hero status. Everyone is practicing it now. Everything is so fucked up now. Im not seeing the point to being miserable anymore. At work I'm chasing an ever smaller piece of pie. You pretty much have to become a pathological liar to advance in corporate America. A fair days wage for a days work was probably always a lie too. Wife's head is buried in TV fantasy soap operas. Somehow its my responsibility to provide a lavish lifestyle even though she's more educated. That's the hoot about American education right now. Women have all these opportunities to become over-educated and no social pressure to do anything with them. Got a doctorate, then start pumping out kids. just finished med school, you deserve a man to take care of you. Its fucked because I don't know one relationship that has survived the woman being the primary bread winner. If your a man and your wife makes more than you. You're looked down upon. period. even if its behind your back.

Im so tired. i don't know ho much longer im hanging in there. Not any time soon, not going to let the dog down. But i'm not going to grow old in this country. I see the hate in these kids eyes. It's going to be much worse here in 10+ years. The globalists have been playing the long game for decades. America will be like that torched restaurant in Goodfellas. They were signing away our futures with their right hand while waiving a flag in the left. always remember nobility largely only exists in fiction. Its the lie that propels society forward.
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An epic case of "All I ever think of is how shitty some things in my life seem and then somehow it appears like my life is really shitty!!!!!!!!!"

Wow. You could NEVER have seen that coming, right?

Now all you have to do is sit on your ass and expect someone else to create a wonderful life for you and your patheticness will be complete!
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Wife works the job and I DO everything and I mean everything else and it works really well. Being a woman she doesn't dick around on the job and has advanced to near the top of a fortune 5 company. I raised two kids that are both honor students and also great people to be around. We have everything and more than we ever wanted. So there's one you've now heard of that works. Now we spend our time with her saving kids in the foster system and I work at animal rescue. Once you have all the money you ever wanted, you realize it doesn't mean jack shit. What matters is what you do with it.
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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Fat chance of that. Families will be divided.

I get in arguments with my nephew, who is some kind of psychotic weasel. I have always been very generous with him and his sisters since they were small.

A few yeast ago, he was an adult man living in his mother's house, after she had moved out. Living for free, and mostly unemployed.

He ran the house into the ground. Every inch of it was caked with filth and filled with more flies than you can imagine. Almost all of the windows were broken and the doors were falling off their hinges. Water from the pipes was leaking into the dank, and musty basement, which was full of wet clothes on the floor and all sorts of garbage. The bathroom was filthy and completely trashed, with a broken sink and a rotten hole, more than a foot wide right in front of the toilet. The house should have been condemned.

At my own expense, nearly five thousand dollars, and thousands of hours of labor, I managed to clean the house, fix the bathroom, the leaky pipes, the windows including installing new storm windows, the yard, demolish and rebuild the front porch, and a host of other things, too numerous to mention.

Before I left, I let him have a lot of my stuff, including an expensive stereo system, and a large flat-screen TV, among other things like tools, leather jackets, a table saw, etc.

While I was working on the house, he offered no help, and I was constantly having to clean up after him and his parties. He spent most of his time drunk and stoned. He never even thanked me, and started crying about me paying rent. In a rotten little house that couldn't even legally be rented, where I slept in a large closet sized room in the back while he slept in the master bedroom, I paid him $200.00 per month, but I would have preferred to use the money for materials. I had to quit working when I ran out of money for materials, and I spent the next for months sorting through my stuff, and selling what I couldn't take with me.

Everyone knew for all those months that I was planning to leave, and packing and repacking my car to see how much I could bring with me. I had to leave some things that I couldn't bring with, so I packed them in boxes, ready for shipping, and I told my nephew that I would either send for them when I got a place, or return and pick them up.

When I returned half a year later, my nephew acted distressed and weird, and started accusing me of stealing his stuff. He had to paw through every box I removed, but none of his stuff was in it.

Then he started accusing me of stealing a book of his that he couldn't find. A stupid, little, worthless book! I told him I didn't take it, but he kept insisting I did. I told him that someone had put books that were on shelves in the living room into the basement, and it was probably there. No, he kept insisting I stole it, and he was telling his mother and everyone I stole his book. For months, he kept bitching at me about stealing his book, and when I asked him if he looked in the basement, he claimed he had, and it wasn't there.

A few months ago, I looked around in the basement and found his book. Vindicated with proof, and does anyone even imagine that the very next thing I said to him was that I found his book in the basement where I said it probably was? His reaction was surprising. He just shrugged and said "oh". There was no apology for slandering me.

I am currently sleeping on my sister's couch and planning to go homeless, since I can't find a job. While I had a very wretched, minimum wage job, which didn't pay me enough to find a place of my own, and which was most of last year, I paid my sister $240.00 per month, a third of the rent, to sleep on the couch, and all along, I did most of the housework.

So now I can't pay rent, as I sort out my stuff and try to figure out what I need and what I can carry when I go. I'm still buying my own food and doing most of the house work, and trying not to impose on my sister. I never asked for compensation for the $5000.00 in materials I spent on her house, or any compensation for the thousands of hours of very exhausting and dirty labor on her house.

Yet, after I lost my job, my nephew showed up and started telling me to get a job and contribute. He was talking like the big, swinging dick and lord of the manner, and saying that everyone takes advantage of his mother and I was being a freeloader. Did I need to remind him that he didn't own the whole house he was living in for free? He was the only person present who was still taking advantage of his mother, as he had for many years, while destroying her house.

He was impervious to logic and reason. Nothing I said to him even registered. He just rocked back in his chair, grinning at me, rubbing his fingers together, and saying I had to pay cash.

He really seemed to be acting like his mother's pimp.

Last weekend, we had another argument when I found out he had been telling lies about the book. He had been telling everyone he found the book in a box that I was trying to sneak out of the house with, and he cleverly contrived to ask me about it, and I then reluctantly confessed that I found it. My sister apparently even believed the fabrication. She is not that stupid.

We got in another argument and he recounted his completely delusional version of events. He claimed I had just up and disappeared without telling anyone, and that I had assured him that I would take care of the house and everything. It was completely strange and delusional. I now believe he is a completely deranged psychopath. Something is very very wrong with his brain. Too much drugs? Too much booze? I don't know. Maybe he is simply evil. I have observed that he likes to gaslight people - just about everyone. It is no wonder that his roommate left all of a sudden without notice, at a time when he kept telling me I could kick out his roommate. I had to keep telling him I didn't want to kick out his roommate, and that I liked him. He was a cool guy. His roommate never told me he was leaving, but he left behind many clues and messages that he thought my nephew was evil - really and genuinely evil.

I want to get as far away from that incestuous band of lunatics as I can.

If things are as bad in other families - it is getting very bad.
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Jesus Christ, find your own place to live.
I have been broke, everyone has, but for God's sake get it together.
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Middle aged IT worker. I see the bad in everything. I see the lies and boogeymen people create to elevate themselves to hero status. Its the marvelization of society. If you can make demographic X evil that equates yourself to hero status. Everyone is practicing it now. Everything is so fucked up now. Im not seeing the point to being miserable anymore. At work I'm chasing an ever smaller piece of pie. You pretty much have to become a pathological liar to advance in corporate America. A fair days wage for a days work was probably always a lie too. Wife's head is buried in TV fantasy soap operas. Somehow its my responsibility to provide a lavish lifestyle even though she's more educated. That's the hoot about American education right now. Women have all these opportunities to become over-educated and no social pressure to do anything with them. Got a doctorate, then start pumping out kids. just finished med school, you deserve a man to take care of you. Its fucked because I don't know one relationship that has survived the woman being the primary bread winner. If your a man and your wife makes more than you. You're looked down upon. period. even if its behind your back.

Im so tired. i don't know ho much longer im hanging in there. Not any time soon, not going to let the dog down. But i'm not going to grow old in this country. I see the hate in these kids eyes. It's going to be much worse here in 10+ years. The globalists have been playing the long game for decades. America will be like that torched restaurant in Goodfellas. They were signing away our futures with their right hand while waiving a flag in the left. always remember nobility largely only exists in fiction. Its the lie that propels society forward.
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Excellent post OP. Please stay here and let's chat.

For one thing, the globalists are the problem. They will push their agenda even if it means WW3. I will not submit and neither should you. I was in a similar situation a few years back -- married, kids, 9-5 job, providing a lavish life.

Wife and I decided to sell our expensive home in NJ and move to Florida. BEST decision ever. First, we made out bandits on the house sale we managed to sell in 2011 when both of us lost our jobs. We could buy 4 homes in Florida for what we sold our house for in NJ. Second, property taxes are 1/4th what they were in NJ.

Now, we work less and spend more time with the kids and we love life. Until the day comes when the globalists take over, we're going to live the good life. Salt Life.
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I'm here brother. I travel around networks as a consultant. I spent some time as a kid in Florida, on the treasure coast. What part are you in? I would love to move. I live in the midwest rust belt and people are very beat down. We stayed for my wife's family, whom have all slowly died of cancer, with one still fighting. Perhaps soon I will be able to get out. How is the job market there?
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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I agree with you, but I believe people are far too self absorbed to even realize what's really going on. I'm at the point that I don't care and welcome war. Something has to happen to affect change.

The USA is over. Our so called government has turned into a self serving dictatorship and clearly doesn't care about the tax paying individuals who support them financially.

I've had enough. I too am a middle aged IT worker and see what's happening very clearly. I don't want to be a part of what's going on. I don't want to contribute my life time and personal resources any longer. It's simply not worth it.
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You and the OP IT workers are just like my college buddies who took their tiny slice of the pie and perpetuated this nightmare all these years, it's your guises fault were in this mess for playing willfully ignorant for your tiny slice.
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Middle aged IT worker. I see the bad in everything. I see the lies and boogeymen people create to elevate themselves to hero status. Its the marvelization of society. If you can make demographic X evil that equates yourself to hero status. Everyone is practicing it now. Everything is so fucked up now. Im not seeing the point to being miserable anymore. At work I'm chasing an ever smaller piece of pie. You pretty much have to become a pathological liar to advance in corporate America. A fair days wage for a days work was probably always a lie too. Wife's head is buried in TV fantasy soap operas. Somehow its my responsibility to provide a lavish lifestyle even though she's more educated. That's the hoot about American education right now. Women have all these opportunities to become over-educated and no social pressure to do anything with them. Got a doctorate, then start pumping out kids. just finished med school, you deserve a man to take care of you. Its fucked because I don't know one relationship that has survived the woman being the primary bread winner. If your a man and your wife makes more than you. You're looked down upon. period. even if its behind your back.

Im so tired. i don't know ho much longer im hanging in there. Not any time soon, not going to let the dog down. But i'm not going to grow old in this country. I see the hate in these kids eyes. It's going to be much worse here in 10+ years. The globalists have been playing the long game for decades. America will be like that torched restaurant in Goodfellas. They were signing away our futures with their right hand while waiving a flag in the left. always remember nobility largely only exists in fiction. Its the lie that propels society forward.
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An epic case of "All I ever think of is how shitty some things in my life seem and then somehow it appears like my life is really shitty!!!!!!!!!"

Wow. You could NEVER have seen that coming, right?

Now all you have to do is sit on your ass and expect someone else to create a wonderful life for you and your patheticness will be complete!
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This. You're responsible for your happiness and no one else. If you don't like your life, take responsibility for that and change it
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Times is hard
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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I agree with you, but I believe people are far too self absorbed to even realize what's really going on. I'm at the point that I don't care and welcome war. Something has to happen to affect change.

The USA is over. Our so called government has turned into a self serving dictatorship and clearly doesn't care about the tax paying individuals who support them financially.

I've had enough. I too am a middle aged IT worker and see what's happening very clearly. I don't want to be a part of what's going on. I don't want to contribute my life time and personal resources any longer. It's simply not worth it.
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I'm right there with you. It's time to "Go Galt".
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Middle aged IT worker. I see the bad in everything. I see the lies and boogeymen people create to elevate themselves to hero status. Its the marvelization of society. If you can make demographic X evil that equates yourself to hero status. Everyone is practicing it now. Everything is so fucked up now. Im not seeing the point to being miserable anymore. At work I'm chasing an ever smaller piece of pie. You pretty much have to become a pathological liar to advance in corporate America. A fair days wage for a days work was probably always a lie too. Wife's head is buried in TV fantasy soap operas. Somehow its my responsibility to provide a lavish lifestyle even though she's more educated. That's the hoot about American education right now. Women have all these opportunities to become over-educated and no social pressure to do anything with them. Got a doctorate, then start pumping out kids. just finished med school, you deserve a man to take care of you. Its fucked because I don't know one relationship that has survived the woman being the primary bread winner. If your a man and your wife makes more than you. You're looked down upon. period. even if its behind your back.

Im so tired. i don't know ho much longer im hanging in there. Not any time soon, not going to let the dog down. But i'm not going to grow old in this country. I see the hate in these kids eyes. It's going to be much worse here in 10+ years. The globalists have been playing the long game for decades. America will be like that torched restaurant in Goodfellas. They were signing away our futures with their right hand while waiving a flag in the left. always remember nobility largely only exists in fiction. Its the lie that propels society forward.
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Sometimes just researching that expat life and watching lots of you tubes and doing lots of reading can change or lighten the mindset - just planting the seed there are options.

Today I am looking at Viet Nam - in the past I looked at Uruguay - now - none if it might happen but something about looking - watching youtubes about their food markets, for example yesterday I watched people eating Pho in Viet Nam - and street vendor videos from Cambodia.

Sometime just LOOKING, emerging a view in an outside culture helps for a little bit. Reading is also good for the brain - you know old fashioned turn the page stuff - go to the library look at and feel some books -

Small things like this can make the brain focus on something besides the over pressuring trap of how it seems the world works right now in your reality - the messages you tell yourself, the culture that brain washes you - go look at - occupy your brain with something different -

Its eye opening.
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War on a drastic scale involving everyone will at least bring the majority of the populace down to a level playing field. I suspect it will happen much sooner than everyone thinks. Perhaps with "everyone" just barely holding on we will all start to realize we need each other and start providing compassion. If not then we all eventually die and the world simply moves on without humans. I personally am of the opinion that world war is very very close to popping off. Once this happens the entire economy will most likely stall or outright cease to function. People will be more concerned with survival than being forced to slave for a paycheck. I am starting to think that the President is angling, or being forced into declaring this war.
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I agree with you, but I believe people are far too self absorbed to even realize what's really going on. I'm at the point that I don't care and welcome war. Something has to happen to affect change.

The USA is over. Our so called government has turned into a self serving dictatorship and clearly doesn't care about the tax paying individuals who support them financially.

I've had enough. I too am a middle aged IT worker and see what's happening very clearly. I don't want to be a part of what's going on. I don't want to contribute my life time and personal resources any longer. It's simply not worth it.
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You and the OP IT workers are just like my college buddies who took their tiny slice of the pie and perpetuated this nightmare all these years, it's your guises fault were in this mess for playing willfully ignorant for your tiny slice.
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I built my career and was scrounging from the beginning while most of the people I went to college with stayed for 10+ years to get masters in fine arts degrees. They're all working retail jobs they could have gotten out of high school only with six figure debt. I still remember them laughing that i had to go to work and they were living off student loans and literally partying with that money. I good amount of my salary goes to taxes. So i've paid my share into the system. i have a moral right to vent.
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cant make much sense out of OPs post parts of the post seem to contradict other posts

liberty, OP ... women should have same opportunities as men

there is no reason to place a person in a category and then expect them to behave according to some set of rules

ps -

i think education for its own sake is a wonderful thing , trade school is for learning skills to get a job , a university education teaches you how to learn and how to think and pushes students towards themselves becoming philosophers and scientists -- to the extent they're capable





GLP