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Just As A Reference Point.... Is The Earth Round or Flat?

 
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it's rhomboid
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I need to know where everyone stands on this..

:)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Its neither round nor flat...... Its an oblate spheroid.
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You certainly think a lot of yourself.. You Seem to get triggered a lot if someone just doesn't blindly accept your arguments... I wasn't signaling you out. Dr.. You are proving my point. Attacking and banning the opposition on a conspiracy site no less, seems kinda ironic.
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"They" taught me that dogs and cats and horses all have four legs. Guess we should start looking REALLY hard for that elusive fifth and sixth leg.

Blanket statements are very rarely an effective means of conveying fact. Sometimes, things are exactly how they seem.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


You've never in your life seen the earth as a ball.

This would be like the government telling you, "dogs have 5 legs when you can see they don't but, that 5th leg can only be seen by them - but here's some pictures of it. Oh, it's perfectly okay to ridicule anyone who says it's 4 legs"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


You are correct. I have never in my life seen earth in a single visual scope. Not once. Few have.

I HAVE seen the horizon curve though. Multiple times from multiple locations. Mountains. Planes. Balloons. I HAVE proved that line of sight matters because we live on a semi-spherical object. I HAVE installed repeaters to service OTH locations by calculating the curvature of the earth and determining the optimum location for the repeater in order to act as a signal median. Because without that calculation, shit doesn't work. Because the giant ball of earth gets in the way and blocks the signal. Because fucking basic ass science.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Well, according to the mainstream science purveyors - it's impossible to see a curve from an airplane window. It's simply not high enough.

Relax, I can tell you're a liar because nothing considers the curve of the Earth in a calculated form. The earth doesn't curve. Not in your 45k salary, shit job- or anywhere. Every attempt to measure whether the earth curves or spins has failed.
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So you are willing to accept the conclusions of "mainstream science purveyors" when they support one very small part of your bullshit argument but not when they disprove it with the other 95% of what they say?

You can't have it both ways, bub.

The problem with you is that you aren't actually making an argument. You are just arguing. There is a difference. Please, go play in the road and let the adults talk.
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You certainly think a lot of yourself.. You Seem to get triggered a lot if someone just doesn't blindly accept your arguments... I wasn't signaling you out. Dr.. You are proving my point. Attacking and banning the opposition on a conspiracy site no less, seems kinda ironic.
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He's a clown. He doesn't just work here spreading disinfo - he's all over. Youtube, flat earth sites, ATS...etc.
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Re: Just As A Reference Point.... Is The Earth Round or Flat?
Trin I selected flat but that is for lack of options. In other words I do not believe it is flat or round. For the lack of a better option I will say that I do not believe the Earth and solar system's nature is the way that it is presented to us by mainstream science. There is some strange stuff going on.
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Relax, I can tell you're a liar because nothing considers the curve of the Earth in a calculated form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


Bzzzzzz. Wrong.

All the calculations I did in that spreadsheet directly depend on calculating the round shape of the earth. It's absolutely necessary to calculate for the topocentric parallax which depends directly on the oblate spheroid of the earth as well as the rotation and the observer's location.
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BOOM! HEADSHOT!
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Some people can't handle their paradigms and ritual dogmas challenged. Usually all they can do is take the libtard approach and just ridicule all other opinions.

Einstein was a plagiarizing fraud.. Whose wife had to do his Math for him, But is hailed by the sheep as the poster child for genius...

Don't stampede the sheep by challenging their indoctrination it's not polite..
 Quoting: face to It 63585442


youre parroting white supremacist dogma, you are the one heavily indoctrinated .... into hate

*insert pot - kettle - black smilie*
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Reading the division and anger this thread is creating, I'm deducing that Trinity might be the devil or an advocate.

What gives, Trin?

Is this a conspiracy sight or a fishing adventure for someone else?


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The North Star (Polaris) is at such a high elevation at the North Pole (over head), that on a flat earth, it would never disappear over the horizon when you travel South. It cannot be seen south of the Equator.
 Quoting: Salient Quest


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 Quoting: B@Z


The stars are not that far away. Traveling away from the North Pole is moving away from the star and hense out of visual sight.
 Quoting: Eichmann

Oh really? Start at some mid-northern latitude. Measure the height of Polaris above the horizon. Now travel 500 miles south and repeat... how far above the earth would you say Polaris is? Now travel another 500 miles south and repeat the measurement... then do it again... and again... and again... do it until you pass the equator and can no longer see Polaris... now combine all your measurements... what happens if you try to assume that it's getting lower on the horizon because you're getting farther away on a flat plane, in other words, that you're measuring its altitude above a flat earth? Sure, you can get a number if you combine any two observations, but what happens if you try to compare the numbers you get from combining all the observations in random pairs? Do the resulting answers agree with each other? Nope. They don't. I wonder why...
Ever wonder why there is no 24 hour sun at the South Pole?
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There is. Lies do not require explanation.

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You've never in your life seen the earth as a ball.

This would be like the government telling you, "dogs have 5 legs when you can see they don't but, that 5th leg can only be seen by them - but here's some pictures of it. Oh, it's perfectly okay to ridicule anyone who says it's 4 legs"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


You are correct. I have never in my life seen earth in a single visual scope. Not once. Few have.

I HAVE seen the horizon curve though. Multiple times from multiple locations. Mountains. Planes. Balloons. I HAVE proved that line of sight matters because we live on a semi-spherical object. I HAVE installed repeaters to service OTH locations by calculating the curvature of the earth and determining the optimum location for the repeater in order to act as a signal median. Because without that calculation, shit doesn't work. Because the giant ball of earth gets in the way and blocks the signal. Because fucking basic ass science.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


Well, according to the mainstream science purveyors - it's impossible to see a curve from an airplane window. It's simply not high enough.

Relax, I can tell you're a liar because nothing considers the curve of the Earth in a calculated form. The earth doesn't curve. Not in your 45k salary, shit job- or anywhere. Every attempt to measure whether the earth curves or spins has failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


So you are willing to accept the conclusions of "mainstream science purveyors" when they support one very small part of your bullshit argument but not when they disprove it with the other 95% of what they say?

You can't have it both ways, bub.

The problem with you is that you aren't actually making an argument. You are just arguing. There is a difference. Please, go play in the road and let the adults talk.
 Quoting: PhobiaDHS


No, don't put words in my mouth. I'm using them to contradict your lies. When Neil Tyson says, "you can't see the earth curve from an airplane" You're here to dispute what he's saying? I fly close to 75x per year for my job. I'm into flat earth. I'd love to see a curve, the edge, an infinite plane, anything - because it's my nature to seek truth.

I've never seen a curve and the horizon rises to meet my eye level, even 40k up. That would not happen if the earth fell off due to a curve. There's some math for you.

Like, at 4 mi out, when a boat disappears supposedly behind a curve - but when I'm 40k ft up and see 100s of miles of horizon and it's flat. I can see towns 40-50 miles apart from each other and a flat surface between them.

Show me a measurement I can do, maybe over water that has shown a curve. I can show you 100s that don't. So - your move!
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Re: Just As A Reference Point.... Is The Earth Round or Flat?
You certainly think a lot of yourself.. You Seem to get triggered a lot if someone just doesn't blindly accept your arguments... I wasn't signaling you out. Dr.. You are proving my point. Attacking and banning the opposition on a conspiracy site no less, seems kinda ironic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63585442


He's a clown. He doesn't just work here spreading disinfo - he's all over. Youtube, flat earth sites, ATS...etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


LMAO, no I'm not. I'm on YouTube, yes, and I make no secret of that. I stream for GLP using YouTube all the time. I'm not at those other places though...

I do not require that people "blindly accept" anything, but if you're going to claim my calculations are wrong then you need to show where they're wrong. Blindly attacking me and my data is even worse than blindly believing it.
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Re: Just As A Reference Point.... Is The Earth Round or Flat?
A sphere is the most efficient gathering of mass. So it's a sphere.
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Relax, I can tell you're a liar because nothing considers the curve of the Earth in a calculated form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


Bzzzzzz. Wrong.

All the calculations I did in that spreadsheet directly depend on calculating the round shape of the earth. It's absolutely necessary to calculate for the topocentric parallax which depends directly on the oblate spheroid of the earth as well as the rotation and the observer's location.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


BZZZZ. LOL. Clown. If you're defending it - it's most likely a lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


See, blindly attacking me like this and claiming "it's lies if it comes from you" is not helpful. It's idiotic. If I'm lying then show where my calculations "are a lie."
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Re: Just As A Reference Point.... Is The Earth Round or Flat?
Still mostly ad hominem rhetoric. I have noticed over time here on different subjects the ones that are quickly over run by certain people. With mostly insults and CGI.
 Quoting: face to It 63585442


Calling my footage and data CGI and attacking "certain people" for being "certain people" is itself a form of an ad hominem argument.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


You're a liar and a deceiver. You're a joke and the pathetic thing is; you go to bed at night knowing you're duping innocent minds and wake up the next day and do it all over.

My favorite part of the week is when myself or someone else defeats your shitty lies and you ban or abandon.

How did you telescope party with the other idiot virgins go?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


More blind attacks...

Oh, and the webcast went great, thanks.

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No no no!

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You certainly think a lot of yourself.. You Seem to get triggered a lot if someone just doesn't blindly accept your arguments... I wasn't signaling you out. Dr.. You are proving my point. Attacking and banning the opposition on a conspiracy site no less, seems kinda ironic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63585442


He's a clown. He doesn't just work here spreading disinfo - he's all over. Youtube, flat earth sites, ATS...etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9233880


LMAO, no I'm not. I'm on YouTube, yes, and I make no secret of that. I stream for GLP using YouTube all the time. I'm not at those other places though...

I do not require that people "blindly accept" anything, but if you're going to claim my calculations are wrong then you need to show where they're wrong. Blindly attacking me and my data is even worse than blindly believing it.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


You're NGC hunter on another site. Quit lying, dude. You're a paid disinfo with sock puppet accounts to pat your back while you're lying. Truth sucks, doesn't it. How much do they pay you? Or do you have a part time job at a camera shop or something?
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I need to know where everyone stands on this..

:)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Why 'does' you want to know, Monsieur Trinity?
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It's a mental consruct in the mind of God. It is any damn shape he wants it to be.
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Higher dimensions are bleeding into this one, it's why so many have the deep feeling of flat earth.. along with many other new extra-dimensional learning ignorantly superimposed onto this one. Other dimensional views are flat, this dimensional view is not.

Back to both sides thinking the other side is nuts..
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I need to know where everyone stands on this..

:)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Why 'does' you want to know, Monsieur Trinity?
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That's really a good question.


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I need to know where everyone stands on this..

:)
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


well until now 19% of the posters here are fucking idiots !
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no....

70% ain't woke up yet...


GLP don't let me down...

do this poll again in a month...

I guarantee it will be closer to the 51% tipping point...

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YES! Perhaps more like oblate.

Last Edited by Northman on 04/20/2017 02:34 PM
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"Or do you have a part time job at a camera shop or something?"

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Re: Just As A Reference Point.... Is The Earth Round or Flat?
Trin I selected flat but that is for lack of options. In other words I do not believe it is flat or round. For the lack of a better option I will say that I do not believe the Earth and solar system's nature is the way that it is presented to us by mainstream science. There is some strange stuff going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73802738



Is there a shape in strange?

I would say it's like an earthen jar toungetounge
It can be hollow, open at the top and below, how's that?
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It's a mental consruct in the mind of God. It is any damn shape he wants it to be.
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this^^^^

well put...
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Pure flat ,like' a pancake


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