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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73197145 United States 04/20/2017 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American soldiers in German prison camps said that they were starving, but they were treated well, and their guards were starving too. With city rail hubs and bridges blown to smithereens, it would have been almost impossible to get food and supplies to prison camps. Even gas for trucks was hard to come by. German soldiers themselves were starving, and one of the things that halted the advance at the battle of the Bulge was the capture of allied supply dumps. The soldiers found lots of food and they were so crazy to eat that they wouldn't continue the attack without eating first. The allies knew how bad the situation in Germany was and they knew how the folks back home would react when they saw the results of things like Dresden. Think like a propagandist. They knew they couldn't conceal the effects of strategic bombing and the starving German population. The only option was to make it look like the Germans were so monstrous that they deserved it. Remember: the American soldiers were starving right along with their guards at their prison camps. People were starving at the slave labor camps too because the Germans couldn't move supplies to any of them for months, while they were bombed and bombed and bombed. That's plain facts and simple logic that had to be countered by a propaganda campaign so vicious that no one would bother to think. Blind rage rendered people blind. I never believed that the holocaust happened as claimed, although I always objected to forcibly removing people to concentration camps. It was done by a lot of people. The British did it to the Germans first. Imagine if America were bombed daily and thoroughly, with whole cities burned to the ground, bridges and railroads and roads blown up, and anything seen moving on a road blown up. How do you suppose those Japanese people in their American concentration camp would have fared out in the middle of nowhere? People who have no clue about the situation in Germany find it so easy to judge. I guess they imagine the American people would have made absolutely heroic efforts to feed Japanese prisoners when they were starving themselves, and fighting enemy advances on all boarders, while being bombed night and day. If you believe that, maybe I could sell you a bridge. |
Huck Fillary (OP) User ID: 74668731 United States 04/20/2017 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short answer yes, long answer no. It was thousands, not millions. Most of them were sick that were thrown in the ovens. Watch The man in the High castle, it shows what a Nazi state would be like. No suffering, no waste for terminally ill people, everything is clean, no crime. Some of their concepts were not that awful. And your belief is based on what evidence? Notice that 30% of GLP members and visitors believe the earth is flat. Reason and evidence are just pesky concepts that are outranked by baseless opinion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73197145 United States 04/20/2017 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The propagandists also had to make people think that the war couldn't be won without strategic bombing, and that was pure bullshit. They had to cover their asses after pursuing the greatest horror ever perpetrated against an innocent population. The allies were the very worst kind of war criminals and they had to detract attention from the horrors of their own deeds. |
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Artemis Rand User ID: 45352645 United States 04/20/2017 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow I cannot believe how stupid some people are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73688269 IT HAPPENED! I have undeniable proof I have true photos my dad was there and mother and grandparents ridiculous ITS REAL Holocaust deniers are the worst imo. To hell with them. AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM: KICKING ASS, KILLING NAZIS, KILLING COMMIES, MAKING BABIES, BUILDING CITIES, EXPLORING SPACE, GOING TO THE MOON, AND PUTTING THE "CIVIL" IN CIVILIZATION SINCE 1776! ****************************** But I tell you this man, I tell you this, I carry an aura of "fuck you" everywhere I go and while I may not cause scenes I can sure as hell continue them and escalate them but good. ****************************** There is going to be a second revolution folks. Count on it - and it will be the citizens against the government. It will be damn bloody. It will be a war of attrition. It will result in over 100 million dead. The heavy handedness of the government - the fascists in code enforcement and animal control especially - have brought this upon themselves. |
Artemis Rand User ID: 45352645 United States 04/20/2017 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short answer yes, long answer no. It was thousands, not millions. Most of them were sick that were thrown in the ovens. Watch The man in the High castle, it shows what a Nazi state would be like. No suffering, no waste for terminally ill people, everything is clean, no crime. Some of their concepts were not that awful. And your belief is based on what evidence? Notice that 30% of GLP members and visitors believe the earth is flat. Reason and evidence are just pesky concepts that are outranked by baseless opinion. And probably 40 percent or more believe we never went to the moon either... AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM: KICKING ASS, KILLING NAZIS, KILLING COMMIES, MAKING BABIES, BUILDING CITIES, EXPLORING SPACE, GOING TO THE MOON, AND PUTTING THE "CIVIL" IN CIVILIZATION SINCE 1776! ****************************** But I tell you this man, I tell you this, I carry an aura of "fuck you" everywhere I go and while I may not cause scenes I can sure as hell continue them and escalate them but good. ****************************** There is going to be a second revolution folks. Count on it - and it will be the citizens against the government. It will be damn bloody. It will be a war of attrition. It will result in over 100 million dead. The heavy handedness of the government - the fascists in code enforcement and animal control especially - have brought this upon themselves. |
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Engonoceras User ID: 72899025 United States 04/20/2017 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know the "6 million estimate" existed in the media BEFORE Hitler. That number is evidently what was used to determine how many would or could have died. The question is: Was that pre-Hitler estimate accurate or exaggerated? Last Edited by TexasPaleo on 04/20/2017 10:30 PM |
Hei-Anus & Deplorable User ID: 63553160 United Kingdom 04/20/2017 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the 99 cent store in south orange county i met and old )ewish man.. Quoting: Goneviral i began mentioning God jesus christ and he quickly replied... as we talked he said God? why would God have allowed what i went through in NAZI GERMANY at the camp? he held up his right arm and on his right forearm was the green tattoo he recieved from the nazi's. he is living proof that the nazis did place People of God in concentration camps. Just because some sheister shows you a tattoo doesn't mean anything. If the Jeouuw thinks there's money to be had for it, they would tattoo their mother, father, brothers, sisters, cousins, friends, and associates in one giant tattoo party! He is living proof of the gullible hapless simpletons that are easily duped by parlor tricks. . Heinous Anus: Where Blather Meets Godzilla |
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B.B. User ID: 74727559 Canada 04/20/2017 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hol·o·caust Quoting: Lady Truth Origin Middle English: from Old French holocauste, via late Latin from Greek holokauston, from holos ‘whole’ + kaustos ‘burned’ (from kaiein ‘burn’). Germans as a Burnt Offering, sacrifice, Most of them Gentiles. The numbers....6,900,000 to 7,400,000 [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] Here is your Holocaust. Think most everything here is reversed.......carve this idea into your mind, make new grooves into your brain. |
Azov User ID: 74710390 United Kingdom 04/20/2017 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the 99 cent store in south orange county i met and old )ewish man.. Quoting: Goneviral i began mentioning God jesus christ and he quickly replied... as we talked he said God? why would God have allowed what i went through in NAZI GERMANY at the camp? he held up his right arm and on his right forearm was the green tattoo he recieved from the nazi's. he is living proof that the nazis did place People of God in concentration camps. Just because some sheister shows you a tattoo doesn't mean anything. If the Jeouuw thinks there's money to be had for it, they would tattoo their mother, father, brothers, sisters, cousins, friends, and associates in one giant tattoo party! He is living proof of the gullible hapless simpletons that are easily duped by parlor tricks. . Agreed - no proof for tattoos at all. The chosen are running scared because we are discovering the truth - more laws will be brought in to stop people even being allowed to discuss it. Surely anyone with intelligence can see there is something wrong with this!?! "If you want to shine like the sun, first you have to burn like it." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72916070 04/21/2017 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short answer yes, long answer no. It was thousands, not millions. Most of them were sick that were thrown in the ovens. Watch The man in the High castle, it shows what a Nazi state would be like. No suffering, no waste for terminally ill people, everything is clean, no crime. Some of their concepts were not that awful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64197384 United States 04/21/2017 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember this one incontrovertible fact. The jimmies secretly hate white people. Everything they do in their lives from childhood to adulthood is to destroy white families. They succeeded here in the states with their 50 year long media campaign to undermine and brainwash our children. Read the Talmud. Their bible is worse than the Koran. |
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pmb1 User ID: 15673591 United States 04/21/2017 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the 99 cent store in south orange county i met and old )ewish man.. Quoting: Goneviral i began mentioning God jesus christ and he quickly replied... as we talked he said God? why would God have allowed what i went through in NAZI GERMANY at the camp? he held up his right arm and on his right forearm was the green tattoo he recieved from the nazi's. he is living proof that the nazis did place People of God in concentration camps. Exactly, and to top that off not all of them were Jewish. Some wwere Italian. Grandpa Paul told us about when he was a child and his grandmother holding him as they were taken into a camp. They were from Italy and were taken to the camps, only 2 of the boys made it out. He wasn't my real grandpa but in my heart he was. I grew up with him and his grand kids. I was actually with him when he passed away. The issue here is that most folks that say it never happened didn't have family that went there, and they are not even over 40 and don't know crap about the past at all. |
Strangelove User ID: 71690750 United States 04/21/2017 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow I cannot believe how stupid some people are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73688269 IT HAPPENED! I have undeniable proof I have true photos my dad was there and mother and grandparents ridiculous ITS REAL Holocaust deniers are the worst imo. To hell with them. Amen brother. Wish GLP would ban these bigots. "Strange days, indeed! Most peculiar, Mama!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72466122 United States 04/21/2017 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Short answer yes, long answer no. It was thousands, not millions. Most of them were sick that were thrown in the ovens. Watch The man in the High castle, it shows what a Nazi state would be like. No suffering, no waste for terminally ill people, everything is clean, no crime. Some of their concepts were not that awful. If there were a chart with the stupid people ranked by order of their brain deadness, the Holocaust deniers would be the stupidest by far. It would be no contest. This guy would be brilliant by comparison. :Kainepane: Your willing to believe snot cures cancer, people think people questioning the official history narrative are stupid. |
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Educated Redneck User ID: 69010652 United States 04/21/2017 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of bad info in this thread... which isn't surprising. Holocaust denial is based on racism and antisemitism and not facts. That is why Holocaust deniers are the worst type of scum. Yes, but maybe not the 6 million deaths cited. Quoting: Engonoceras Has anyone done actual research in original records and figured out how many death can actually be documented? Thousands and thousands of scholars have researched this topic with most estimates between 5.7 and 6.2 million J3ws dead from the Holocaust. The allies were bombing the hell out of Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73197145 American soldiers in German prison camps said that they were starving, but they were treated well, and their guards were starving too. With city rail hubs and bridges blown to smithereens, it would have been almost impossible to get food and supplies to prison camps. Even gas for trucks was hard to come by. This one is an old Holocaust denier myth. We've all seen the images of the living skeletons and dead skeletons of people in the work camps after they were liberated. American and British POWs may not have eaten well but they were not skeletons like those in the camps. Same for the people of Germany. They were missing some meals with little selection.... but the people of Germany weren't wasting away as skeletons like those imprisoned in the Nazi concentration camps. Many of those in the camps also died of disease such as typhus. But there were no epidemics among the people of Germany or even across German occupied Eastern Europe. The Nazis treated their slave laborers worse than animals. This was part of the Nazi policy of extermination through labor. Anne Frank spent several years hiding in an attic with little food. Her family stayed healthy hiding in that attic. Within 6 months of the Nazis taking them into custody only her father Otto Frank survived. It wasn't due to strategic bombing, it was because the Nazis didn't take care of their prisoners. I believe someone was held in those camps but I seriously doubt 100% of them were Jewish like they claim. If there really were 6 million people murdered in the camps I also seriously doubt they were 100% Jewish also. Quoting: jkm1864 Interesting questions, but you do realize that the Holocaust occurred 70 years ago and all your question can easily be answered? For example it is really easy to find that 6 million didn't die in the camps and it is easy to find that 100% of them weren't J3wish. The Holocaust of the J3ws was about 5.7 to 6.2 million but if we include the more than 3 million Soviet POWs, more than 2 million mostly Catholic Polish citizens, Serbs, gypsies, disabled people and other non-combat deaths the Holocaust actually killed 10-12 million people. And most of them didn't die in the camps. Early in the war the Germans were slicing through Eastern Europe and Red Army groups were repeatedly surrounded and forced to surrender. Many of the surrendering armies had more than 100,000 Red Army soldiers. In just 8 months 2.8 million Soviet POWs died from starvation and exposure. Even though there was food the Germans didn't feed them, they took their coats and kept them in fenced outdoor areas with no shelter in the winter. 2.8 million surrendered soldiers dead in 8 months! There were also German death squads known as Einsatzgruppen that roamed German occupied territory and murdered J3ws and local leaders from the Baltic states to the Ukraine. These roaming squads murdered about 2 million civilians including about 1.3 J3ws over the years 1941 to 1945 and their bodies were spread over a vast area. Another million J3ws died in walled off areas called Ghettos from disease, starvation and being killed trying to escape to find food. The Holocaust happened and as many posters have already mentioned Holocaust deniers are scum. Last Edited by Educated Redneck on 04/21/2017 03:20 PM |