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Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?

 
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Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
No alarms went off, nothing beeped because everything is fried. It's spring so the temperature change didn't wake you. Just silence. No electricity no cars working, no noise at all. Freaky thought! What would you do first? Ride bike to grocery store? See if neighbors are up?

I don't know but I think the natural early risers would an hour or two head start before chaos.....
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If you are posing this ? then you are far more informed then someone who gets up early. Congradulations!snogging
On the other hand, I have different fingers.
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I figured the first response would be "go back to sleep since I'm takin the day off"

Do toilets work when the grid is down?
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Run a DOOM batch??? banana2
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Actually you'd wake up to several thigs dead but a lot of stuff is already emp hardened.

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The three components of nuclear EMP, as defined by the IEC, are called E1, E2 and E3.

E1

The E1 pulse is the very fast component of nuclear EMP. The E1 component is a very brief but intense electromagnetic field that can quickly induce very high voltages in electrical conductors. The E1 component causes most of its damage by causing electrical breakdown voltages to be exceeded. E1 is the component that can destroy computers and communications equipment and it changes too fast for ordinary lightning protectors to provide effective protection against it. Even consumer transient protectors are becoming increasingly able to handle faster rise-time pulses, though. There are special transient protectors that are fast enough to suppress nuclear EMP.

The E1 component is produced when gamma radiation from the nuclear detonation knocks electrons out of the atoms in the upper atmosphere. The electrons begin to travel in a generally downward direction at relativistic speeds (more than 90 percent of the speed of light). In the absence of a magnetic field, this would produce a large pulse of electric current vertically in the upper atmosphere over the entire affected area. The Earth's magnetic field acts on these electrons to change the direction of electron flow to a right angle to the geomagnetic field. This interaction of the Earth's magnetic field and the downward electron flow produces a very large, but very brief, electromagnetic pulse over the affected area.2

Physicist Conrad Longmire has given numerical values for a typical case of the E1 pulse produced by a second generation nuclear weapon such as those used in high altitude tests of Operation Fishbowl in 1962. According to Longmire, the typical gamma rays given off by the weapon have an energy of about 2 MEV (million electron volts). When these gamma rays collide with atoms in the mid-stratosphere, the gamma rays knock out electrons. This is known as the Compton effect, and the resulting electrons produce an electric current that is known as the Compton current. The gamma rays transfer about half of their energy to the electrons, so these initial electrons have an energy of about 1 MEV. This causes the electrons to begin to travel in a generally downward direction at about 94 percent of the speed of light. Relativistic effects cause the mass of these high energy electrons to increase to about 3 times their normal rest mass.2

If there were no geomagnetic field, and no additional atoms in the lower atmosphere for additional collisions, the electrons would continue to travel downward with an average current density in the stratosphere of about 48 amperes per square meter.2

Because of the downward tilt of the Earth's magnetic field at high latitudes, the area of peak field strength is a U-shaped region to the equatorial side of the nuclear detonation. For nuclear detonations over the continental United States, this U-shaped region is south of the detonation point. Near the equator, where the Earth's magnetic field is more nearly horizontal, the E1 field strength is more nearly symmetrical around the burst location.

The Earth's magnetic field quickly deflects the electrons at right angles to the geomagnetic field, and the extent of the deflection depends upon the strength of the magnetic field. At geomagnetic field strengths typical of the central United States, central Europe or Australia, these initial electrons spiral around the magnetic field lines in a circle with a typical radius of about 85 meters (about 280 feet). These initial electrons are stopped by collisions with other air molecules at a average distance of about 170 meters (a little less than 580 feet). This means that most of the electrons are stopped by collisions with air molecules before the electron can complete one full circle of its spiral around the Earth's magnetic field lines.2

This interaction of the very rapidly moving negatively charged electrons with the magnetic field radiates a pulse of electromagnetic energy. The pulse typically rises to its peak value in about 5 nanoseconds. The magnitude of this pulse typically decays to half of its peak value within 200 nanoseconds. (By the IEC definition, this E1 pulse is ended at one microsecond (1000 nanoseconds) after it begins.) This process occurs simultaneously with about 1025 other electrons.2

There are a number of secondary collisions which cause the subsequent electrons to lose energy before they reach ground level. The electrons generated by these subsequent collisions have such reduced energy that they do not contribute significantly to the E1 pulse.2

These 2 MEV gamma rays will normally produce an E1 pulse near ground level at moderately high latitudes that peaks at about 50,000 volts per meter. This is a peak power density of 6.6 megawatts per square meter.

The process of the gamma rays knocking electrons out of the atoms in the mid-stratosphere causes this region of the atmosphere to become an electrical conductor due to ionization, a process which blocks the production of further electromagnetic signals and causes the field strength to saturate at about 50,000 volts per meter. The strength of the E1 pulse depends upon the number and intensity of the gamma rays produced by the weapon and upon the rapidity of the gamma ray burst from the weapon. The strength of the E1 pulse is also somewhat dependent upon the altitude of the detonation.

There are many reports of super-EMP nuclear weapons that are able to overcome the 50,000 volt per meter limit by the very nearly instantaneous release of a burst of gamma radiation of much higher energy levels than are known to be produced by second generation nuclear weapons. The construction details of these weapons are classified, and therefore cannot be confirmed by scientists in the open scientific literature.3

E2

The E2 component is generated by scattered gamma rays and inelastic gammas produced by weapon neutrons. This E2 component is an "intermediate time" pulse that, by the IEC definition, lasts from about one microsecond to one second after the beginning of the electromagnetic pulse. The E2 component of the pulse has many similarities to the electromagnetic pulses produced by lightning, although the electromagnetic pulse induced by a very close lightning strike may be considerably larger than the E2 component of a nuclear EMP. Because of the similarities to lightning-caused pulses and the widespread use of lightning protection technology, the E2 pulse is generally considered to be the easiest to protect against.

According to the United States EMP Commission, the main potential problem with the E2 component is the fact that it immediately follows the E1 component, which may have damaged the devices that would normally protect against E2.

According to the EMP Commission Executive Report of 2004, "In general, it would not be an issue for critical infrastructure systems since they have existing protective measures for defense against occasional lightning strikes. The most significant risk is synergistic, because the E2 component follows a small fraction of a second after the first component's insult, which has the ability to impair or destroy many protective and control features. The energy associated with the second component thus may be allowed to pass into and damage systems."3

E3

The E3 component is very different from the other two major components of nuclear EMP. The E3 component of the pulse is a very slow pulse, lasting tens to hundreds of seconds, that is caused by the nuclear detonation heaving the Earth's magnetic field out of the way, followed by the restoration of the magnetic field to its natural place. The E3 component has similarities to a geomagnetic storm caused by a very severe solar flare.4, 5, 6 Like a geomagnetic storm, E3 can produce geomagnetically induced currents in long electrical conductors, which can then damage or destroy components such as power line transformers.5

Because of the similarity between solar-induced geomagnetic storms and nuclear E3, it has become common to refer to solar-induced geomagnetic storms as "solar EMP." At ground level, however, "solar EMP" is NOT known to produce an E1 or E2 component.

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It's why we the US have a CHAMP MISSILE, instead of an emp missile...
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Well that was a thoutful and in depth response! Thanks for the info

Now, about the toilets....when I wake up....
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This is gonna sound silly, but...

Out of complete and utter habit, I would check the clock.

*facepalm*
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honestly, I would think that it was a simple power outage. But then again, I would try my cell phone at it would be down or fried, so that would get me wondering what was up. If the cars didnt start after that, it would be a very long and sinking feeling. Stores would typically not be open because no employees could get to work. No cops would be coming around to protect big grocery stores. It would be the managers, and you know most of them wouldnt be able to get to work even if they wanted to go and protect it because of their loyalty and newfound power as a keyholder to a big food storage place. I guesI curtsy like Shirley Templeing would be fast and furious as it became clear that the power wasnt coming back on anytime in the near future if ever at all.
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Make coffee.
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WATER WATER and more WATER!!!

Any time I have a power outage I look at my battery operated clock...if it wasn't ticking I would turn on my battery operated radio.

If that wasn't working I would go try to start my truck...if it didn't start I would know for sure.

Then I would fill EVERYTHING with water (before the water tower runs dry).

Pot, pans, pitchers, barrels, garbage cans, bath tub, indoors, outdoors, if it can hold WATER it's getting filled!
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I will watch archived cat videos on my EMP hardened and in shielded crate until needed backup computer. Cat videos. Just cat videos.
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Pray. Ask God for help and protection.
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Realize it was a False Flag because EMPs and Nukes are a HOAX:
Thread: Threat of EMP attack is a HOAX, Science Fiction
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Actually you'd wake up to several thigs dead but a lot of stuff is already emp hardened.

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The three components of nuclear EMP, as defined by the IEC, are called E1, E2 and E3.

E1

The E1 pulse is the very fast component of nuclear EMP. The E1 component is a very brief but intense electromagnetic field that can quickly induce very high voltages in electrical conductors. The E1 component causes most of its damage by causing electrical breakdown voltages to be exceeded. E1 is the component that can destroy computers and communications equipment and it changes too fast for ordinary lightning protectors to provide effective protection against it. Even consumer transient protectors are becoming increasingly able to handle faster rise-time pulses, though. There are special transient protectors that are fast enough to suppress nuclear EMP.

The E1 component is produced when gamma radiation from the nuclear detonation knocks electrons out of the atoms in the upper atmosphere. The electrons begin to travel in a generally downward direction at relativistic speeds (more than 90 percent of the speed of light). In the absence of a magnetic field, this would produce a large pulse of electric current vertically in the upper atmosphere over the entire affected area. The Earth's magnetic field acts on these electrons to change the direction of electron flow to a right angle to the geomagnetic field. This interaction of the Earth's magnetic field and the downward electron flow produces a very large, but very brief, electromagnetic pulse over the affected area.2

Physicist Conrad Longmire has given numerical values for a typical case of the E1 pulse produced by a second generation nuclear weapon such as those used in high altitude tests of Operation Fishbowl in 1962. According to Longmire, the typical gamma rays given off by the weapon have an energy of about 2 MEV (million electron volts). When these gamma rays collide with atoms in the mid-stratosphere, the gamma rays knock out electrons. This is known as the Compton effect, and the resulting electrons produce an electric current that is known as the Compton current. The gamma rays transfer about half of their energy to the electrons, so these initial electrons have an energy of about 1 MEV. This causes the electrons to begin to travel in a generally downward direction at about 94 percent of the speed of light. Relativistic effects cause the mass of these high energy electrons to increase to about 3 times their normal rest mass.2

If there were no geomagnetic field, and no additional atoms in the lower atmosphere for additional collisions, the electrons would continue to travel downward with an average current density in the stratosphere of about 48 amperes per square meter.2

Because of the downward tilt of the Earth's magnetic field at high latitudes, the area of peak field strength is a U-shaped region to the equatorial side of the nuclear detonation. For nuclear detonations over the continental United States, this U-shaped region is south of the detonation point. Near the equator, where the Earth's magnetic field is more nearly horizontal, the E1 field strength is more nearly symmetrical around the burst location.

The Earth's magnetic field quickly deflects the electrons at right angles to the geomagnetic field, and the extent of the deflection depends upon the strength of the magnetic field. At geomagnetic field strengths typical of the central United States, central Europe or Australia, these initial electrons spiral around the magnetic field lines in a circle with a typical radius of about 85 meters (about 280 feet). These initial electrons are stopped by collisions with other air molecules at a average distance of about 170 meters (a little less than 580 feet). This means that most of the electrons are stopped by collisions with air molecules before the electron can complete one full circle of its spiral around the Earth's magnetic field lines.2

This interaction of the very rapidly moving negatively charged electrons with the magnetic field radiates a pulse of electromagnetic energy. The pulse typically rises to its peak value in about 5 nanoseconds. The magnitude of this pulse typically decays to half of its peak value within 200 nanoseconds. (By the IEC definition, this E1 pulse is ended at one microsecond (1000 nanoseconds) after it begins.) This process occurs simultaneously with about 1025 other electrons.2

There are a number of secondary collisions which cause the subsequent electrons to lose energy before they reach ground level. The electrons generated by these subsequent collisions have such reduced energy that they do not contribute significantly to the E1 pulse.2

These 2 MEV gamma rays will normally produce an E1 pulse near ground level at moderately high latitudes that peaks at about 50,000 volts per meter. This is a peak power density of 6.6 megawatts per square meter.

The process of the gamma rays knocking electrons out of the atoms in the mid-stratosphere causes this region of the atmosphere to become an electrical conductor due to ionization, a process which blocks the production of further electromagnetic signals and causes the field strength to saturate at about 50,000 volts per meter. The strength of the E1 pulse depends upon the number and intensity of the gamma rays produced by the weapon and upon the rapidity of the gamma ray burst from the weapon. The strength of the E1 pulse is also somewhat dependent upon the altitude of the detonation.

There are many reports of super-EMP nuclear weapons that are able to overcome the 50,000 volt per meter limit by the very nearly instantaneous release of a burst of gamma radiation of much higher energy levels than are known to be produced by second generation nuclear weapons. The construction details of these weapons are classified, and therefore cannot be confirmed by scientists in the open scientific literature.3

E2

The E2 component is generated by scattered gamma rays and inelastic gammas produced by weapon neutrons. This E2 component is an "intermediate time" pulse that, by the IEC definition, lasts from about one microsecond to one second after the beginning of the electromagnetic pulse. The E2 component of the pulse has many similarities to the electromagnetic pulses produced by lightning, although the electromagnetic pulse induced by a very close lightning strike may be considerably larger than the E2 component of a nuclear EMP. Because of the similarities to lightning-caused pulses and the widespread use of lightning protection technology, the E2 pulse is generally considered to be the easiest to protect against.

According to the United States EMP Commission, the main potential problem with the E2 component is the fact that it immediately follows the E1 component, which may have damaged the devices that would normally protect against E2.

According to the EMP Commission Executive Report of 2004, "In general, it would not be an issue for critical infrastructure systems since they have existing protective measures for defense against occasional lightning strikes. The most significant risk is synergistic, because the E2 component follows a small fraction of a second after the first component's insult, which has the ability to impair or destroy many protective and control features. The energy associated with the second component thus may be allowed to pass into and damage systems."3

E3

The E3 component is very different from the other two major components of nuclear EMP. The E3 component of the pulse is a very slow pulse, lasting tens to hundreds of seconds, that is caused by the nuclear detonation heaving the Earth's magnetic field out of the way, followed by the restoration of the magnetic field to its natural place. The E3 component has similarities to a geomagnetic storm caused by a very severe solar flare.4, 5, 6 Like a geomagnetic storm, E3 can produce geomagnetically induced currents in long electrical conductors, which can then damage or destroy components such as power line transformers.5

Because of the similarity between solar-induced geomagnetic storms and nuclear E3, it has become common to refer to solar-induced geomagnetic storms as "solar EMP." At ground level, however, "solar EMP" is NOT known to produce an E1 or E2 component.

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It's why we the US have a CHAMP MISSILE, instead of an emp missile...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71042857


Well that was a thoutful and in depth response! Thanks for the info

Now, about the toilets....when I wake up....
 Quoting: Evolution16


You'll be able to flush your morning constitutional.
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Toilets would work until the water tower went dry & there was no water pressure.
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probably smoke a bowl.
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Try to figure out why the hell the electricity is off.

Once I figure it out, time to secure stuff & prepare to defend the fort.
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I figured the first response would be "go back to sleep since I'm takin the day off"

Do toilets work when the grid is down?
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For a while.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

INTJ:
Independent, original, analytical, and determined. Have an exceptional ability to turn theories into solid plans of action. Highly value knowledge, competence, and structure. Driven to derive meaning from their visions. Long-range thinkers. Have very high standards for their performance, and the performance of others. Natural leaders, but will follow if they trust existing leaders.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
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Try to figure out why the hell the electricity is off.

Once I figure it out, time to secure stuff & prepare to defend the fort.
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See? Now why don't I think like that? I'm such a robot!

I guess, after I figured out that things weren't "the same" as any other day, I'd get myself in gear. It would probably happen somewhere near the coffee pot and end with "Go_ Da_n It!"

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Might as well just turn over and go back to sleep. Perfect excuse to sleep in.
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fire up the 59 ford f-100, it'll still run fine. use it to get to the supermarket, break in and grab as much canned goods, prescriptions, water bottles, whatever I could get.
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I'd set up the fort. Then I'd realize the the EMP risk is largely overblown.

Yeah there'd be a lot of broken stuff, but there would also be a massive ammount of stuff completel unaffected.
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I figured the first response would be "go back to sleep since I'm takin the day off"

Do toilets work when the grid is down?
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Only once. No power No pumps
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Open my gun safe with the physical key
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Realize it was a False Flag because EMPs and Nukes are a HOAX:
Thread: Threat of EMP attack is a HOAX, Science Fiction
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kill yourself
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Pray and ask for God's help in the name of his son Jesus.
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I figured the first response would be "go back to sleep since I'm takin the day off"

Do toilets work when the grid is down?
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They work by gravity so all you have to do is pour water in and it will flush.

Speaking of water, that is the NO. 1 survival item.

Fill all of your containers, bathtubs, etc. while the water is still running.
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No alarms went off, nothing beeped because everything is fried. It's spring so the temperature change didn't wake you. Just silence. No electricity no cars working, no noise at all. Freaky thought! What would you do first? Ride bike to grocery store? See if neighbors are up?

I don't know but I think the natural early risers would an hour or two head start before chaos.....
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Put the fires out.

One thing that NOBODY ever mentions with an EMP is the fact that many of the electronics burst into flame when they get zapped!

PUT THE FIRES OUT FIRST.
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WATER WATER and more WATER!!!

Any time I have a power outage I look at my battery operated clock...if it wasn't ticking I would turn on my battery operated radio.

If that wasn't working I would go try to start my truck...if it didn't start I would know for sure.

Then I would fill EVERYTHING with water (before the water tower runs dry).

Pot, pans, pitchers, barrels, garbage cans, bath tub, indoors, outdoors, if it can hold WATER it's getting filled!
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This! 100%!
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Realize it was a False Flag because EMPs and Nukes are a HOAX:
Thread: Threat of EMP attack is a HOAX, Science Fiction
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kill yourself
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shill

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fire up the 59 ford f-100, it'll still run fine. use it to get to the supermarket, break in and grab as much canned goods, prescriptions, water bottles, whatever I could get.
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This is what I was running through in my mind. There would be a SIGNIFICANT advantage to an early riser who was alert enough to sense the problem is Not temporary, and wasn't so naive to think someone else will fix it. For those of us who don't have a functioning truck from the 50s - would motorcycles still work?
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Pray and ask for God's help in the name of his son Jesus.
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And thenn... wait?


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