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Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?

 
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I probably wouldn't notice for at least an hour.

I wake up, without an alarm, before dawn every day. I move through the house with the lights off, so everyone else stays asleep. The dogs follow me like shadows and we head outside, me to check out the fading stars and to make sure the dogs don't decide to play with a skunk or a pack of raccoons, and them to do their thing. When we all get back inside, I light the gas stove and throw on a kettle for tea, to enjoy out on the porch, whatever the weather. I enjoy the velvet feel of night slipping into day. There is a moment every morning when you hear and sense the community around you wake up, almost as a group. And it seems like the seconds leading up to that belong to just you, because you are the only crazy-assed human up and out at that time, watching the world roll over on its belly.

Yeah, I wouldn't start to get suspicious until the sky started to turn grey and an alarm did not go off inside, waking someone up.

No biggie, though...

Three weeks without power after Sandy in freezing temps, plus a nor'easter, was a good dry run for an EMP. Half my neighborhood was washed away and we did fine.

If you don't have a wood stove, get one. They are key to survival. Seriously. Or build an indoor rocket stove.

Kerosine lanterns are also very efficient fuel-wise, although camping lanterns throw a lot more light. Not sure if the latter would be affected. Candles are worthless in terms of casting usable light...you'd have to have more candles than the Vatican to properly light a room.
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I found him!

He is "the one""the anomaly"

AC9500 Stay Safe and God Speed!
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I think you'll find 9500 is a she
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
realizing, then get the gas stove, boil some water and drink my instant coffee
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
go back to sleep, emp's are a nightmare.
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Withdraw my bitcoins obviously
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
It would not be silent tho. The constant crying and winging of all the snowflakes because their phones/playstations/xboxes and the like are not working. That noise sure as hell will be deafening
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It would not be silent tho. The constant crying and winging of all the snowflakes because their phones/playstations/xboxes and the like are not working. That noise sure as hell will be deafening
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Ha! An X-box battery operated rig would be the most valuable thing to trade a snowflake - could probably get all their food and water. Then there would be more tears as they realize they can't play online anymore
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Pray and ask for God's help in the name of his son Jesus.
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That first

and then unwrap my shortwave radio from its tinfile and see if I can get any reception and then go check on the kids on the other side of town.

I grew up in a place & time where people lived off the land mostly and I knew families that didn't have indoor plumbing, running water or electricity and I still remember how they manage to carry on with life. I would do what they did.

Water, food and heat.
Everything else is gravy.
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WATER WATER and more WATER!!!

Any time I have a power outage I look at my battery operated clock...if it wasn't ticking I would turn on my battery operated radio.

If that wasn't working I would go try to start my truck...if it didn't start I would know for sure.

Then I would fill EVERYTHING with water (before the water tower runs dry).

Pot, pans, pitchers, barrels, garbage cans, bath tub, indoors, outdoors, if it can hold WATER it's getting filled!
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yup that is would I do also.hf
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I figured the first response would be "go back to sleep since I'm takin the day off"

Do toilets work when the grid is down?
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Actually only for awhile if you live where there is town water or county water once the water is used up that is in the pipes that is it (roughly about 10 minutes). The had issues with our water about a month ago and shut the county water off, could not flush the toilets at all. I even tried doing it with bottled water and wasted the water. Only way to flush toilet is to dump a bucket of water into the bowl itself. You can't fill the back tank in one.
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I would most likely do what I normally do when the power is out, go make breakfast on my gas stove, then go feed the chickens and let them out and the ducks, then sit back and relax with a good book.

After a few days of no power that is when I would start worrying. Also would depend on if I had chicks under a heat lamp if so I would have to toss a few in my bra to help keep them warm.

I wouldn't miss the electric to much. However my daughters would they enjoy playing games on the play station, or using their cell phones. Me I never use either.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
EMP is a myth. If a legitimate one happened,and the government wanted the lights back on, an automatic relay would restore power in 3 seconds. Therefore, I'd start the Mister Coffee and enjoy the usual morning brew.
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Wiring is the REQUIRED antenna to produce the signal strength enough to generate the over-voltage potential, which may or may not cause the over-current breakdown. If there is not enough wire length or circuit board foil length, there will not be enough electromagnetic radiation pickup to cause damage. Your watch and cell phone will be fine. Big stuff has been hardened years ago.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Press the snooze button and go back to sleep.
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I'm going to start preparing specifically for an emp.

Water, batteries, food, medications, basic living necessitates,

Tomorrow I'm going to clean my house, get rid of shit that's useless. Reorganize and restock.


Shits getting real boys, you can only feel it coming.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Was watching a movie/ show were they had an emergency scenario or something,

First thing,the boy does is fill the bath tub with water.

He tells his dad, the first thing we lose is water, did I do good dad?
What movie/show am I thinking of?

Can anybody help me out lol.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
EMP is a myth. If a legitimate one happened,and the government wanted the lights back on, an automatic relay would restore power in 3 seconds. Therefore, I'd start the Mister Coffee and enjoy the usual morning brew.
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Wiring is the REQUIRED antenna to produce the signal strength enough to generate the over-voltage potential, which may or may not cause the over-current breakdown. If there is not enough wire length or circuit board foil length, there will not be enough electromagnetic radiation pickup to cause damage. Your watch and cell phone will be fine. Big stuff has been hardened years ago.
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Alluminium clouds from chemictrails act like a huge antenna.

Even vulcanic ashes act like an antenna. Blowing the yellowston and then using Emp bombs will work a charm.

Under the Etna wifi and others radionetworks works at extended distances due to the metal particles in the vulcanic ashes.

Like a huge antenna
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
I'd furiously masterbate then after I'm done , I would think about what I'm going to do that day.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Well get out the old record player that uses valuves if i can get some electric and then go speeding down the road in my car if it works because all the speed entrapment camera's are broken.

Not pay the rent or home loan and play some Abba music

in a flash of light god brings back a little heaven to earth because all this computer stuff is making us slaves to the machines

No rents, not BS education for McJobs, no taxes or Fakebook

What are we waiting for, does anyone have instractions so i can build one please
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Drink coffee and smoke weed first. Always.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Was watching a movie/ show were they had an emergency scenario or something,

First thing,the boy does is fill the bath tub with water.

He tells his dad, the first thing we lose is water, did I do good dad?
What movie/show am I thinking of?

Can anybody help me out lol.
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Jericho
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Take a piss
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
What a lot of people don't realize is that the water supply is off of water pressure pumps.
No electricity no water in the city's.
The toilet would work once and then would not fill back up with water
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Fill all water containers before the tower goes dry.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Dust off the box of old Playboys.

Keep prepping ya'll.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
WATER WATER and more WATER!!!

Any time I have a power outage I look at my battery operated clock...if it wasn't ticking I would turn on my battery operated radio.

If that wasn't working I would go try to start my truck...if it didn't start I would know for sure.

Then I would fill EVERYTHING with water (before the water tower runs dry).

Pot, pans, pitchers, barrels, garbage cans, bath tub, indoors, outdoors, if it can hold WATER it's getting filled!
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^^^^This! And then in short order, lock down my set of Foxfire books, revert to extended off-grid living and gather whatever I could for bartering.
tomato Oh, and try to calm down the 'mater plants.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Go back to sleep, then after I wake up I'd paint the ceiling with my brains and skull fragments.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
better not be at work but i am shutting the inlet valve and head to the nearest horse corral then to town. for my rusty .44, some supplies and a piece of ass then out to the sticks we go
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Actually you'd wake up to several thigs dead but a lot of stuff is already emp hardened.

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The three components of nuclear EMP, as defined by the IEC, are called E1, E2 and E3.

E1

The E1 pulse is the very fast component of nuclear EMP. The E1 component is a very brief but intense electromagnetic field that can quickly induce very high voltages in electrical conductors. The E1 component causes most of its damage by causing electrical breakdown voltages to be exceeded. E1 is the component that can destroy computers and communications equipment and it changes too fast for ordinary lightning protectors to provide effective protection against it. Even consumer transient protectors are becoming increasingly able to handle faster rise-time pulses, though. There are special transient protectors that are fast enough to suppress nuclear EMP.

The E1 component is produced when gamma radiation from the nuclear detonation knocks electrons out of the atoms in the upper atmosphere. The electrons begin to travel in a generally downward direction at relativistic speeds (more than 90 percent of the speed of light). In the absence of a magnetic field, this would produce a large pulse of electric current vertically in the upper atmosphere over the entire affected area. The Earth's magnetic field acts on these electrons to change the direction of electron flow to a right angle to the geomagnetic field. This interaction of the Earth's magnetic field and the downward electron flow produces a very large, but very brief, electromagnetic pulse over the affected area.2

Physicist Conrad Longmire has given numerical values for a typical case of the E1 pulse produced by a second generation nuclear weapon such as those used in high altitude tests of Operation Fishbowl in 1962. According to Longmire, the typical gamma rays given off by the weapon have an energy of about 2 MEV (million electron volts). When these gamma rays collide with atoms in the mid-stratosphere, the gamma rays knock out electrons. This is known as the Compton effect, and the resulting electrons produce an electric current that is known as the Compton current. The gamma rays transfer about half of their energy to the electrons, so these initial electrons have an energy of about 1 MEV. This causes the electrons to begin to travel in a generally downward direction at about 94 percent of the speed of light. Relativistic effects cause the mass of these high energy electrons to increase to about 3 times their normal rest mass.2

If there were no geomagnetic field, and no additional atoms in the lower atmosphere for additional collisions, the electrons would continue to travel downward with an average current density in the stratosphere of about 48 amperes per square meter.2

Because of the downward tilt of the Earth's magnetic field at high latitudes, the area of peak field strength is a U-shaped region to the equatorial side of the nuclear detonation. For nuclear detonations over the continental United States, this U-shaped region is south of the detonation point. Near the equator, where the Earth's magnetic field is more nearly horizontal, the E1 field strength is more nearly symmetrical around the burst location.

The Earth's magnetic field quickly deflects the electrons at right angles to the geomagnetic field, and the extent of the deflection depends upon the strength of the magnetic field. At geomagnetic field strengths typical of the central United States, central Europe or Australia, these initial electrons spiral around the magnetic field lines in a circle with a typical radius of about 85 meters (about 280 feet). These initial electrons are stopped by collisions with other air molecules at a average distance of about 170 meters (a little less than 580 feet). This means that most of the electrons are stopped by collisions with air molecules before the electron can complete one full circle of its spiral around the Earth's magnetic field lines.2

This interaction of the very rapidly moving negatively charged electrons with the magnetic field radiates a pulse of electromagnetic energy. The pulse typically rises to its peak value in about 5 nanoseconds. The magnitude of this pulse typically decays to half of its peak value within 200 nanoseconds. (By the IEC definition, this E1 pulse is ended at one microsecond (1000 nanoseconds) after it begins.) This process occurs simultaneously with about 1025 other electrons.2

There are a number of secondary collisions which cause the subsequent electrons to lose energy before they reach ground level. The electrons generated by these subsequent collisions have such reduced energy that they do not contribute significantly to the E1 pulse.2

These 2 MEV gamma rays will normally produce an E1 pulse near ground level at moderately high latitudes that peaks at about 50,000 volts per meter. This is a peak power density of 6.6 megawatts per square meter.

The process of the gamma rays knocking electrons out of the atoms in the mid-stratosphere causes this region of the atmosphere to become an electrical conductor due to ionization, a process which blocks the production of further electromagnetic signals and causes the field strength to saturate at about 50,000 volts per meter. The strength of the E1 pulse depends upon the number and intensity of the gamma rays produced by the weapon and upon the rapidity of the gamma ray burst from the weapon. The strength of the E1 pulse is also somewhat dependent upon the altitude of the detonation.

There are many reports of super-EMP nuclear weapons that are able to overcome the 50,000 volt per meter limit by the very nearly instantaneous release of a burst of gamma radiation of much higher energy levels than are known to be produced by second generation nuclear weapons. The construction details of these weapons are classified, and therefore cannot be confirmed by scientists in the open scientific literature.3

E2

The E2 component is generated by scattered gamma rays and inelastic gammas produced by weapon neutrons. This E2 component is an "intermediate time" pulse that, by the IEC definition, lasts from about one microsecond to one second after the beginning of the electromagnetic pulse. The E2 component of the pulse has many similarities to the electromagnetic pulses produced by lightning, although the electromagnetic pulse induced by a very close lightning strike may be considerably larger than the E2 component of a nuclear EMP. Because of the similarities to lightning-caused pulses and the widespread use of lightning protection technology, the E2 pulse is generally considered to be the easiest to protect against.

According to the United States EMP Commission, the main potential problem with the E2 component is the fact that it immediately follows the E1 component, which may have damaged the devices that would normally protect against E2.

According to the EMP Commission Executive Report of 2004, "In general, it would not be an issue for critical infrastructure systems since they have existing protective measures for defense against occasional lightning strikes. The most significant risk is synergistic, because the E2 component follows a small fraction of a second after the first component's insult, which has the ability to impair or destroy many protective and control features. The energy associated with the second component thus may be allowed to pass into and damage systems."3

E3

The E3 component is very different from the other two major components of nuclear EMP. The E3 component of the pulse is a very slow pulse, lasting tens to hundreds of seconds, that is caused by the nuclear detonation heaving the Earth's magnetic field out of the way, followed by the restoration of the magnetic field to its natural place. The E3 component has similarities to a geomagnetic storm caused by a very severe solar flare.4, 5, 6 Like a geomagnetic storm, E3 can produce geomagnetically induced currents in long electrical conductors, which can then damage or destroy components such as power line transformers.5

Because of the similarity between solar-induced geomagnetic storms and nuclear E3, it has become common to refer to solar-induced geomagnetic storms as "solar EMP." At ground level, however, "solar EMP" is NOT known to produce an E1 or E2 component.

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It's why we the US have a CHAMP MISSILE, instead of an emp missile...
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Well that was a thoutful and in depth response! Thanks for the info

Now, about the toilets....when I wake up....
 Quoting: Evolution16


your toilet will flush at least once, if emp really does take grid down, your toilets tank will not be refilled so you will have to refill it manually. After a few days, with city sewage pumps not working, your toilet will back up
if you have a septic tank system and a water source like me, your toilets will work fine (albeit more work due to having to dump buckets of water in the toilett tank by hand.
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
if you are in a city with gravity drain sewage, and you're in a lower elevation sectio of the sewage system, your toilet will likely become a fountain of shit water as people upstream of you fill the pipes!
but i think you'll have bigger problems than sanitation before that happens as after a few days, the niqqers will see an opportunity....
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I need find a clothes washboard...do they still make those?
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Yeah...check ebay
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Re: Wake up after an EMP attack....What do you do first?
Try to figure out why the hell the electricity is off.

Once I figure it out, time to secure stuff & prepare to defend the fort.
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THIS.

Go into action. Start the plan.


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