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So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city

 
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So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
So many Christians want to change the world...yet they seldom even change their city.

They want to "reach millions"...yet SELDOM even "reach" their FRIENDS and their COWORKERS.

It is the price the Church PAYS when it is CONDITIONED to seek FAME instead of FAITHFULNESS.

The age of the Mega-church...and TELEVANGELISM...has left much of the LOCAL church in ruins...and everyone now wants to be known BEYOND their "sphere of influence."

Even those from small towns and cities have scarcely made a DENT in their COMMUNITIES...as towns of 30,000...40,000...or even 50,000 people STILL have THOUSANDS of UNSAVED people walking the streets daily.

Yet..."Think big!" remains the mantra...even though "Reach ONE!" should be the rallying cry!

God placed LOCAL churches in towns and cities everywhere...and the Bible...not Ron...says that God wants to use LOCAL churches to reach LOCAL people.

God placed churches in Horn Lake, Mississippi for one purpose:

So Horn Lake, Mississippi could hear the Gospel...allowing the people of Horn Lake, Mississippi to hear the TRUTH and to be SHEPHERDED by a CARING and FAITHFUL pastor.

Dislike it all you wish...but I say tonight what I STRONGLY feel the Holy Spirit saying:

Stop trying to "reach the world"...and look around!

There are THOUSANDS right where you ARE that need Jesus!

Be faithful in a FEW things...in what you even deem to be SMALL things...and God will ANOINT you for that very purpose!

Who around you is LOST?

Then...fill in the blank:

"My calling is to reach _____________ (the name of someone LOCAL who is UNSAVED)."

Get going! Time is short.
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Go to a non-Christian city. Go to a non-Christian country.

Report back.
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Being raised in the church its all i ever heard. Reach the world and have a worldwide ministry etc. It was all about fame and money and they didnt give a shit about the people around them.

They day came when i left this cult of money and greed and zaid goodbye to it forever as i could not live the lie they pushed.

30 years have passed since then.

In my minglings with the "world"...just living life out there beyond the walls of the church i noticed one thing...

In the last three decades not ONCE have i or anyone i know EVER had a christian try to tell us the gospel.

NOT EVEN ONCE.

And within 5 kilometers of where i was there are THREE MEGA CHURCHES...THREE!!!

and not one of them lazy selfish money loving self centered fuckheads has EVEN ONCE stepped outside the doors of their church to say anything.


Its the main reason i left.

I simply could NOT LIVE A LIE.
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04/25/2017 03:07 PM

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Because they forget to work on themselves first.

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Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
If America were really Xtian? Society wouldnt be in shape its in- pron accepted, Xtians higher divorce rate than nonXtians, war everywhere, greed, destruction, selfishness...
The evenagelicals prayed for POTUS Trump cause they want what he has- wealth, fame, power.
Xtians are on the forefront of fighting for righteousness- NOWHERE. they dont even fight or voice help for their own kind being persecuted in m.e.- home of their religion. Garbage
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Start here - simple -

Thread: If you have children, you should see this.
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Jesus Last Words to His Disciples

Jesus : He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

Jesus : "Take nothing for the journey--no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra shirt

Jesus : Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit

Peter : "Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk."

Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know.
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04/25/2017 03:24 PM
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
The wording of the thread title is misleading.

There is no SELDOM involved.

The word that should have been used is NEVER.
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04/25/2017 03:27 PM
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If America were really Xtian? Society wouldnt be in shape its in- pron accepted, Xtians higher divorce rate than nonXtians, war everywhere, greed, destruction, selfishness...
The evenagelicals prayed for POTUS Trump cause they want what he has- wealth, fame, power.
Xtians are on the forefront of fighting for righteousness- NOWHERE. they dont even fight or voice help for their own kind being persecuted in m.e.- home of their religion. Garbage
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59129600


American are pagans like a viking
as a pagan , American not under xtian law
war and peace are option not decision depend on their mood :)
in the past pagan believe in how sharp their swords
as today American pagan believe in how big their nuke
unlike xtian in m.e although they have many car they never hit mass people :)
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Plant seeds.

Those who have an ear will understand.
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Thoughts change the world...
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
the only thing christards care about changing, is recruiting more christards to their ranks
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Jesus Last Words to His Disciples

Jesus : He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

Jesus : "Take nothing for the journey--no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra shirt

Jesus : Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit

Peter : "Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk."

Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73677563


Wow!


Just realized Jesus said preach the gospel to the whole creation... that means everything!!
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
So many Christians want to change the world...yet they seldom even change their city.

They want to "reach millions"...yet SELDOM even "reach" their FRIENDS and their COWORKERS.

It is the price the Church PAYS when it is CONDITIONED to seek FAME instead of FAITHFULNESS.

The age of the Mega-church...and TELEVANGELISM...has left much of the LOCAL church in ruins...and everyone now wants to be known BEYOND their "sphere of influence."

Even those from small towns and cities have scarcely made a DENT in their COMMUNITIES...as towns of 30,000...40,000...or even 50,000 people STILL have THOUSANDS of UNSAVED people walking the streets daily.

Yet..."Think big!" remains the mantra...even though "Reach ONE!" should be the rallying cry!

God placed LOCAL churches in towns and cities everywhere...and the Bible...not Ron...says that God wants to use LOCAL churches to reach LOCAL people.

God placed churches in Horn Lake, Mississippi for one purpose:

So Horn Lake, Mississippi could hear the Gospel...allowing the people of Horn Lake, Mississippi to hear the TRUTH and to be SHEPHERDED by a CARING and FAITHFUL pastor.

Dislike it all you wish...but I say tonight what I STRONGLY feel the Holy Spirit saying:

Stop trying to "reach the world"...and look around!

There are THOUSANDS right where you ARE that need Jesus!

Be faithful in a FEW things...in what you even deem to be SMALL things...and God will ANOINT you for that very purpose!

Who around you is LOST?

Then...fill in the blank:

"My calling is to reach _____________ (the name of someone LOCAL who is UNSAVED)."

Get going! Time is short.
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Good read. Thanks.
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Plant seeds.

Those who have an ear will understand.
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They dont even do that much.

And the few that do their seed is "bow to my god who really loves you or he will burn you alive in sick endless eternal agony forever...cauze he loves you"

Idiots.
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
the only thing christards care about changing, is recruiting more christards to their ranks
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its duty for every xtian to tells about Christ
a Man without sin which take your bullet not by money but by His own blood
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the only thing christards care about changing, is recruiting more christards to their ranks
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Which is usually a sign of insecurity about your own religion.
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the only thing christards care about changing, is recruiting more christards to their ranks
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its duty for every xtian to tells about Christ
a Man without sin which take your bullet not by money but by His own blood
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73677563

of course, someone who creates a movement and wishes it to expand would COMMAND that you CONVERT the unbelievers. Same with Islam, even though their methods are more extreme, christards methods used to be the same or worse
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They want change but know what pulling the trigger on it means. They will be persecuted until Jesus comes back.
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They want change but know what pulling the trigger on it means. They will be persecuted until Jesus comes back.
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Jesus Last Words to His Disciples

Jesus : He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

Jesus : "Take nothing for the journey--no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra shirt

Jesus : Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit

Peter : "Silver or gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk."

Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73677563


Wow!


Just realized Jesus said preach the gospel to the whole creation... that means everything!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6917763


It makes sense when you realize that the Gospel that Jesus was talking about was "The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand" (obtainable, here and now, within) Heal the Earth!

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“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
Being raised in the church its all i ever heard. Reach the world and have a worldwide ministry etc. It was all about fame and money and they didnt give a shit about the people around them.

They day came when i left this cult of money and greed and zaid goodbye to it forever as i could not live the lie they pushed.

30 years have passed since then.

In my minglings with the "world"...just living life out there beyond the walls of the church i noticed one thing...

In the last three decades not ONCE have i or anyone i know EVER had a christian try to tell us the gospel.

NOT EVEN ONCE.

And within 5 kilometers of where i was there are THREE MEGA CHURCHES...THREE!!!

and not one of them lazy selfish money loving self centered fuckheads has EVEN ONCE stepped outside the doors of their church to say anything.


Its the main reason i left.

I simply could NOT LIVE A LIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74755592


No reply to this?

Truth really hurts.
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Re: So many Christians want to change the world, yet they seldom even change their city
the only thing christards care about changing, is recruiting more christards to their ranks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74757336


its duty for every xtian to tells about Christ
a Man without sin which take your bullet not by money but by His own blood
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73677563

of course, someone who creates a movement and wishes it to expand would COMMAND that you CONVERT the unbelievers. Same with Islam, even though their methods are more extreme, christards methods used to be the same or worse
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74757336


its same with atheist which believe in evolution but doesnt have solution ?

what for you as mortal can count billions planet in universe but cant reach it ?

its only wasting your times
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Being raised in the church its all i ever heard. Reach the world and have a worldwide ministry etc. It was all about fame and money and they didnt give a shit about the people around them.

They day came when i left this cult of money and greed and zaid goodbye to it forever as i could not live the lie they pushed.

30 years have passed since then.

In my minglings with the "world"...just living life out there beyond the walls of the church i noticed one thing...

In the last three decades not ONCE have i or anyone i know EVER had a christian try to tell us the gospel.

NOT EVEN ONCE.

And within 5 kilometers of where i was there are THREE MEGA CHURCHES...THREE!!!

and not one of them lazy selfish money loving self centered fuckheads has EVEN ONCE stepped outside the doors of their church to say anything.


Its the main reason i left.

I simply could NOT LIVE A LIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74755592


No reply to this?

Truth really hurts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74755592


I felt more unconditional love, compassion and acceptance the day I visited a Krishna temple than in any Christian church I've ever attended. Very sad.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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