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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74774178 South Africa 04/27/2017 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. -North Korea Quoting: Merit Total Population: 24,983,205 Available Manpower: 13,000,000 Fit for Service: 10,100,000 Reaching Military Age Annually: 415,000 Active Frontline Personnel: 700,000 Active Reserve Personnel: 4,500,000 -America Total Population: 321,368,864 Available Manpower: 145,215,000 Fit for Service: 120,025,000 Reaching Military Age Annually: 4,220,000 Active Frontline Personnel: 1,400,000 Active Reserve Personnel: 1,100,000 I would say more fit for a gastric bypass, than war. -NK Human wave: 24,983,204 (let's exclude Kimmi) -USA Human Wave: 0 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73797742 Philippines 04/27/2017 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. they had top minds from Oregon come over to teach them how to make fuel from dead babies [link to www.salon.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73797742 Philippines 04/27/2017 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. ... Quoting: Merit Did you just compare the Nazis military beast that was some shit right out of revelations capable of literally taking the world over to NK and Lil kim? Surely you see why that is a false equivalency? This is the 26th strongest military in the world with a starving barely educated population against the strongest military in the world and a super power. The nazis could not have done what they did if they were in Kims position. kim got nuclear bomb and icbm. he got got enought nuclear fuel for an underground nuclear reactor. A nuclear reactor won't run an army. Oil runs an army. No one has seen an ICBM. All he has is rockets that blow up on the launchpad and missles he can't control when they do take off and have limited distances they can strike. He has shit. If I was Trump, I'd have a boomer in the sea of Japan to roast Pyongyang... NK is just another US defense industry created boogey man. Probably eventually they willl pound the hell out of it and milk the tax payers out of a few billion more on the effort. |
Psych User ID: 71582760 Netherlands 04/27/2017 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. There is no reason for anyone to be scared, except the people from NK. The complexity is in how to topple the government without too much collateral damage. They hold their own civilians hostage, and any type of intervention will hurt the people. NK is a true tyranny in every sense of the word. |
Herzog User ID: 1486342 United States 04/27/2017 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. ..... Quoting: Merit At the links it breaks down both countries fighting numbers/data if you want to compare them. You forget one thing. The USA has no oil there either. It has to have it shipped, they need supplies shipped, they need military hardware shipped, personnel shipped. Also a war is being fought on North Koreas turf. Their resources are right there. Also China and Russia are right next door. The US hasn't gone up against a conventional army since the Vietnam war and we all know what happened there. No way China and Russia are going to allow the US to walk through NK and set up camp on their border. This one is going to end up messy But hey at least Ivanka will be safe tucked away in her nuclear bunker somewhere while the rest of the world fries So? You've never heard of Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm? So? You've never heard of Hwy 8? Watch this vid and educate yourself, piker. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] BTW, what the fuck did Ivanka ever do to you? The answer is NOTHING! So lay off the leftist rhetoric, drunk ass sheep-fucker. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74718762 Brazil 04/27/2017 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. There is no reason for anyone to be scared, except the people from NK. Quoting: Psych The complexity is in how to topple the government without too much collateral damage. They hold their own civilians hostage, and any type of intervention will hurt the people. NK is a true tyranny in every sense of the word. Me smaht me watch duh teluhbishin! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74718762 Brazil 04/27/2017 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. ..... Quoting: Merit At the links it breaks down both countries fighting numbers/data if you want to compare them. You forget one thing. The USA has no oil there either. It has to have it shipped, they need supplies shipped, they need military hardware shipped, personnel shipped. Also a war is being fought on North Koreas turf. Their resources are right there. Also China and Russia are right next door. The US hasn't gone up against a conventional army since the Vietnam war and we all know what happened there. No way China and Russia are going to allow the US to walk through NK and set up camp on their border. This one is going to end up messy But hey at least Ivanka will be safe tucked away in her nuclear bunker somewhere while the rest of the world fries So? You've never heard of Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm? So? You've never heard of Hwy 8? Watch this vid and educate yourself, piker. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] BTW, what the fuck did Ivanka ever do to you? The answer is NOTHING! So lay off the leftist rhetoric, drunk ass sheep-fucker. She's a globalist ZOG-ling sellout cunt. |
BadProgBad User ID: 72349243 United States 04/27/2017 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. "Wrong." "Army surrendered, never defeated the people who are indigenous to Iraq." Really? Apparently you forget all of the blue fingers, and parents Letting their kids play in the streets with Soldiers and Marines. The fact is, we liberated Iraq, partnered with Sunni tribal leaders all throughout the country to defeat Sunni terrorists, established permanent military presence in order to maintain peace and provide a check on Iranian hegemony, and watched millions of happy Iraqis celebrate the first free Elections of their lifetime. The indigenous peoples did not learn to distrust America and the West until Bath House Barry forced the military to forsake the people of Iraq, breaking our promises, and double-crossing the tribes we had made promises to in order to have them fighting by our side. Many of those friends wound up murdered by the Wahabist extremists who we had promised to protect them from. Murdered by our own weapons which were provided by the traitor Barry. Of course now they are angry, but don't blame America. Blame the subversive, traitorous politicians who gave the orders--much like the politicians who are responsible for the political purges that occurred in South Vietnam after said politicians forced our military to forsake our allies there. ------------------------------------------------------- What you did was take away the control structure of another country, leaving it open to other forces to fill the void. ISIS is a product of the vacuum. So if destabilising the region was the goal it was achieved. Why is the idea that there are Iraq natives who will see the change as an invasionalforepointegn? ------------------------------------------------------- Apparently you didn't bother reading what I said before commenting. I already pointed that out. That goal was achieved by Bath House Barry. Last Edited by BadProgBad on 04/27/2017 12:58 PM All enemies, foreign and domestic. |
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The Comedian :D User ID: 74244541 United States 04/27/2017 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. The north koreans would be using the same weapons they fought the korean war with. Quoting: Rufus Juice One sub clears that entire beach. 20 b2s dropping at the same time over their 8 suspected nuke sites and kim doesnt get one off the ground. Pearl harbor style attack....biggest threat to its success would be keeping the pres off twitter. The Navy should've taken a couple of battleships out of mothballs for old times sake. But of course defense contractors make many more dollars selling cruise missiles. Cruise missiles are ground-hugging sex on a stick. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74777559 Canada 04/27/2017 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. "NK has no oil." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74760543 Well NK seemed to do just fine during the first USA vs NK War. Can they match us Conventionally? Of course not, that's why any War with NK will go Nuclear quickly. That's because they had logistical support from Russia and China, both of which had (and still have) their own independent reserves of oil and the means to refine it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74777559 Canada 04/27/2017 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. The north koreans would be using the same weapons they fought the korean war with. Quoting: Rufus Juice One sub clears that entire beach. 20 b2s dropping at the same time over their 8 suspected nuke sites and kim doesnt get one off the ground. Pearl harbor style attack....biggest threat to its success would be keeping the pres off twitter. The Navy should've taken a couple of battleships out of mothballs for old times sake. But of course defense contractors make many more dollars selling cruise missiles. Cruise missiles are ground-hugging sex on a stick. :daffywank: They sure are. And all the US would have to do, really, is arm them with neutron-type nuclear weapons in the 5kT to 10kT range, and it's bye-bye NK artillery bunkers and hardened air defence/radar sites. The radiation from neutron weapons is very intense but also very short-lived, so there'd be no fallout to worry about. The cruise missiles would also be very hard to detect and even harder to counter because they fly so close to the ground. |
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The Comedian :D User ID: 74244541 United States 04/27/2017 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. So tell me. What are you all going to do when neither China or Russia defends North Korea Quoting: Merit The question is: What are we all going to do when they form alliances with each other and the US and all other nations, all at the same time. Shaking one hand with the right and shotting someone else with the left? Nope. No fear hear. What are you going to do when they don't? Maybe wish you would have done somethings differently instead of cucking out to an imaginary worst case scenario? You don't have to admit it, but that's what anyone would do. They would feel like a fool for getting bluffed. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
The Comedian :D User ID: 74244541 United States 04/27/2017 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. The north koreans would be using the same weapons they fought the korean war with. Quoting: Rufus Juice One sub clears that entire beach. 20 b2s dropping at the same time over their 8 suspected nuke sites and kim doesnt get one off the ground. Pearl harbor style attack....biggest threat to its success would be keeping the pres off twitter. The Navy should've taken a couple of battleships out of mothballs for old times sake. But of course defense contractors make many more dollars selling cruise missiles. Cruise missiles are ground-hugging sex on a stick. They sure are. And all the US would have to do, really, is arm them with neutron-type nuclear weapons in the 5kT to 10kT range, and it's bye-bye NK artillery bunkers and hardened air defence/radar sites. The radiation from neutron weapons is very intense but also very short-lived, so there'd be no fallout to worry about. The cruise missiles would also be very hard to detect and even harder to counter because they fly so close to the ground. Absolute fact. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74777559 Canada 04/27/2017 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. Lack of oil is what stopped the Nazi war machine. They never were able to take Baku from the Soviets. That was the beginning of the end. Funny thing, if the Nazis hadn't tried to take Stalingrad, and if they had developed a well-protected logistical chain, they could have taken the Baku oilfields. For a while, anyway, before the Russians poured everything they had into ousting the Nazis. |
Merit (OP) User ID: 1130686 United States 04/27/2017 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. Lack of oil is what stopped the Nazi war machine. They never were able to take Baku from the Soviets. That was the beginning of the end. Funny thing, if the Nazis hadn't tried to take Stalingrad, and if they had developed a well-protected logistical chain, they could have taken the Baku oilfields. For a while, anyway, before the Russians poured everything they had into ousting the Nazis. You mean everything we had. The Russians were beat and starving with no food or ammo. The allies saved them and THEN they turned on Hitler after he betrayed them at the end of the war. Up until that point the Russians fought for and with the nazis during the entire war. Last Edited by Merit on 04/27/2017 04:52 PM • Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass. • |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74777559 Canada 04/27/2017 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. Artillery doesn't need oil. Quoting: R. Wordsworth Good for America, sucks for Seoul. The good guys will not get out of this one unscathed. Too late now, it's killin time. Godspeed to the ROK Frontline boys. This is gonna be ugly. First sorties.....take out nuke pads and artillery batteries aimed at South Korea. 1950's era MIGs are no match for even a F-15/F-16 much less an F-22....swat them like mosquitos. :headnod12: 10,000 guns in hardened bunkers can put a lot of fucking ordinance downrange before our flyboys can even get in the air. We can take out their air defenses in an hour, their artillery will have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds by then. Have you seen what a single 155 shell can do? Now multiply that by a hundred thousand. You're right, the North Koreans could get quite a few rounds downrange before the US and South Korean air forces could respond. However, the damage and loss of life won't be quite as great as some imagine. Plus, US and SK artillery assets emplaced near the DMZ have fire detection systems that will allow them to respond almost instantaneously with a counter-strike, and in less time than it will take the first incoming rounds to arrive. It's estimated that at least 25% of North Korea's artillery pieces, due to age, may malfunction on the first day of a war. Ammunition failures will be equally prevalent. Gun crew fatigue and incapacity will whittle down the numbers of functional artillery batteries still further. Their longest-ranging guns and rocket artillery can only hit the outskirts of the greater Seoul metropolitan area, not Seoul proper. There is an extensive network of shelters in the Seoul metropolitan area, meaning that a lot of people will be able to get below ground quickly once the first rounds start landing. Yes, some will still die. The only chance the North Koreans have of doing really significant damage is if they use the element of surprise and launch an artillery strike that is unexpected. |
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Herzog User ID: 71067161 United States 04/27/2017 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. ..... Quoting: Merit At the links it breaks down both countries fighting numbers/data if you want to compare them. You forget one thing. But hey at least Ivanka will be safe tucked away in her nuclear bunker somewhere while the rest of the world fries So? You've never heard of Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm? So? You've never heard of Hwy 8? Watch this vid and educate yourself, piker. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] BTW, what the fuck did Ivanka ever do to you? The answer is NOTHING! So lay off the leftist rhetoric, drunk ass sheep-fucker. She's a globalist ZOG-ling sellout cunt. State your sources, not just spout from your undefined vacant imaginary hate filled machinations, AC. Well? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72149333 United States 04/27/2017 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. China supplies NK's oil. China is simply using NK to test President Trump. President Trump is doing a nice job of verbal parrying and thrusting with Xi. The Chinese respect this verbal gamesmanship ability. Mr. Trump's Syrian air base salvo and his mother of all bomb drop on Afghan tunnels was a demonstration of his resolve and an effective way to say "don't fuck with me." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72149333 United States 04/27/2017 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. China supplies NK's oil. China is simply using NK to test President Trump. President Trump is doing a nice job of verbal parrying and thrusting with Xi. The Chinese respect this verbal gamesmanship ability. Mr. Trump's Syrian air base salvo and his mother of all bomb drop on Afghan tunnels was a demonstration of his resolve and an effective way to warn Xi and others ..."don't fuck with me." |
Herzog User ID: 71097417 United States 04/27/2017 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. I personally do not think China or Russia is "testing" Trump. I think that those two nations are just sick and tired of Kim, the boo boo queen and want the US to take out the thorn in their sides, to cure the disease that has been plaguing their countries for sixty plus years. Their armies are poised at their respective borders, not to assist but to prevent refugees from crossing their borders. My opinion. Think about it. If C and R wanted Kimmy to have nukes, to start shit, then they would have sold them to his government by now. I would think that they know if he has a competent delivery system, he could very well launch on them just as well as he could on neighboring nations. Instability in their back yard is not conducive to economic growth. Both nations want to grow their economies. It is illogical to think otherwise. Yet they have this piece of shit step-brother in-law holding on to outdated Marxist ideas that have been proven to fail everywhere it has been tried. Both nations have seen this first hand and they have the prime example of it's failure in their back yard. Trade fails. The world may say, "Okay Russia we will trade with you, but you support a shit-head so, sozy no, not today, we do not trust you." To China they say, "Okay China, we want to trade with you, because you are the biggest market on the planet, but you support an anal douche-head so, nope, not today, soz brah." So they are stuck, unable to move forward until their shared cancer is excised and removed. I know some here think the two nations are pulling the strings trying to manipulate Trump, but I do not see it that way. I think they view the Norks are no longer useful in the bigger scheme of things, but they can not do what needs to be done by themselves or they look like welchers on a deal, or something along those lines. Anyways, Just thinking out loud. |
BadProgBad User ID: 72728364 United States 04/28/2017 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. The north koreans would be using the same weapons they fought the korean war with. Quoting: Rufus Juice One sub clears that entire beach. 20 b2s dropping at the same time over their 8 suspected nuke sites and kim doesnt get one off the ground. Pearl harbor style attack....biggest threat to its success would be keeping the pres off twitter. The Navy should've taken a couple of battleships out of mothballs for old times sake. But of course defense contractors make many more dollars selling cruise missiles. Cruise missiles are ground-hugging sex on a stick. Al - Most - There! LOL All enemies, foreign and domestic. |
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The Comedian :D User ID: 27619355 United States 04/28/2017 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So I was looking at NK's logistical ability to have a war with a superpower. They have a big problem. NK has no oil. The north koreans would be using the same weapons they fought the korean war with. Quoting: Rufus Juice One sub clears that entire beach. 20 b2s dropping at the same time over their 8 suspected nuke sites and kim doesnt get one off the ground. Pearl harbor style attack....biggest threat to its success would be keeping the pres off twitter. The Navy should've taken a couple of battleships out of mothballs for old times sake. But of course defense contractors make many more dollars selling cruise missiles. Cruise missiles are ground-hugging sex on a stick. Al - Most - There! LOL Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |