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Atheist man Dies Went To Hell what he saw is Horrifying

 
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That would mean heaven would be full of souls in eternal torment, as they watch their loved ones suffer in hell. The whole afterlife is torture for monotheists.Many of them never stop complaining about this life , either, so its misery the whole way.
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You know. I've always wondered about that.
The bible speaks of no more sorrow when we get to heaven.

But what about people with unsaved friends and family?
Will they be given some sort of amnesia when they get to heaven?

How can people rejoice in eternity knowing that people they know will be suffering for eternity?? This question is such a good one, an absolute mind bender. Unfortunately, i have only come across one reference to this and its a story relayed via third party so its impossible to tell of authenticity. On the video on page 1 entitled '2 terrifying death experiences' it contains a story of a duel death scenario. Friends in a car, they crash and both die. Anyway, long story short the one reporting the story is eventually greeted by someone they felt they knew from elsewhere but not the life they had just lived. Through some kind of visible entry to hell, he observed his friend having horrific acts done to him by demons. His friend seemed to be aware of the fact he was observing and was calling for help but he felt unable to do anything. What he was told next by the being he was greeted by was something like this 'dont worry, his pain will be short lived or something like that. It is the only time I have heard this kind of information relayed back but the duel death testomonies are not as common as a single passing as you could probably imagine. No point in pinning any hope on it until someone else reports something similar though.

Even watching the Christian play "Eternity"
They had scenes where friends or family ended up dying at the same time in an accident. And one would go on to heaven blissfully while the other dragged away.
That always left me uneasy.
Which brings up another question.
If Christians are so certain of the reality of Hell. Youd think theyd be desperately proselytizing? I guess deep down maybe many of us dont or dont want to believe such a place exists.
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That would mean heaven would be full of souls in eternal torment, as they watch their loved ones suffer in hell. The whole afterlife is torture for monotheists.Many of them never stop complaining about this life , either, so its misery the whole way.
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You know. I've always wondered about that.
The bible speaks of no more sorrow when we get to heaven.

But what about people with unsaved friends and family?
Will they be given some sort of amnesia when they get to heaven?

How can people rejoice in eternity knowing that people they know will be suffering for eternity?? This question is such a good one, an absolute mind bender. Unfortunately, i have only come across one reference to this and its a story relayed via third party so its impossible to tell of authenticity. On the video on page 1 entitled '2 terrifying death experiences' it contains a story of a duel death scenario. Friends in a car, they crash and both die. Anyway, long story short the one reporting the story is eventually greeted by someone they felt they knew from elsewhere but not the life they had just lived. Through some kind of visible entry to hell, he observed his friend having horrific acts done to him by demons. His friend seemed to be aware of the fact he was observing and was calling for help but he felt unable to do anything. What he was told next by the being he was greeted by was something like this 'dont worry, his pain will be short lived or something like that. It is the only time I have heard this kind of information relayed back but the duel death testomonies are not as common as a single passing as you could probably imagine. No point in pinning any hope on it until someone else reports something similar though.

Even watching the Christian play "Eternity"
They had scenes where friends or family ended up dying at the same time in an accident. And one would go on to heaven blissfully while the other dragged away.
That always left me uneasy.
Which brings up another question.
If Christians are so certain of the reality of Hell. Youd think theyd be desperately proselytizing? I guess deep down maybe many of us dont or dont want to believe such a place exists.
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Adding to the bold comments I made above, the reason I mentioned that as something of interest is because of another NDE story. There is an element of similarity from Pam Willaims in the interview below. At somepoint she describes a place where she can observe hell and it sounds incredibly similar to the story I referenced above in terms of where they were at that moment and how they were seeing things around them.

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so out of the 100's of thousands, if not MILLIONS of people he saw burning in these cubes in hell, he got to see HITLER...

how cliche

not Josef Stalin, not Mao Ze Dong, not Pol Pot, not Friedrich Engels, not Karl Marx, not Leon Traotsky, not Vladimir Lenin, not Che Guervera...

but THE ONE AND ONLY, HISTORY'S MOST PLAYED OUT CLICHE OF A TYRANT...

DRUM ROLL PLEASE...

uncle Addy...

how childishly cliche
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Vintagethis

Way too convenient...
I don’t suffer fools or shills lightly...

Don’t gaslight me, bro.
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I feel your sarcasm fella, it does seem like a joke huh? or at least something thats so beyond what you currently think, its laughable that it exists.

Stop what your doing right now and keep looking around your room and wave to your self. This moment will be relived in the life review when you pass. I'm doubting they will fast forward pass this bit, you can at least look at your self waving back in glee when you finally know the truth for your self and discover which one if us is right. It would take quite an ego to say theyre all lieing and you knew this because.... well, its just easier to believe right?
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Yea but if you aren't a bad person why would you be punished in your afterlife?

I can see if you are an asshole, rapist, murderer, in general spending your life making other's miserable. But what about just a regular person who doesn't do any wrong to anyone? Helps when they can and just lives a normal life?

Why should they go to hell?
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You are basing your assumptions of Good and Bad on man's terms. God has his own terms and if you want to enter his Kingdom, you have to let Jesus Christ into your life. Then you have to repent of your sins and try not to do them and stay on a righteous path. Then you have to believe that Jesus Christ is your savior. He died for your sins and was resurrected. If you can do that, then you will enter Heaven...

You can't get into Heaven by doing good deeds. There are no degree's of sin. Sin is Sin. There is an absolute sin that God will grant you. That sin is to not believe in Him and not want Him in your life. He will grant that and not have you enter Heaven...

You may be in Total darkness until the Judgment, or you may be cast into Hell...

Everyone gets judged at the end of time. That means the living and the dead. If you have not repented and taken Jesus as your savior, then you will be cast into the Lake of Fire. You will be dead for ever...
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so out of the 100's of thousands, if not MILLIONS of people he saw burning in these cubes in hell, he got to see HITLER...

how cliche

not Josef Stalin, not Mao Ze Dong, not Pol Pot, not Friedrich Engels, not Karl Marx, not Leon Traotsky, not Vladimir Lenin, not Che Guervera...

but THE ONE AND ONLY, HISTORY'S MOST PLAYED OUT CLICHE OF A TYRANT...

DRUM ROLL PLEASE...

uncle Addy...

how childishly cliche
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:Vintagethis:

Way too convenient...
 Quoting: Little Red Hen


Some of these people report that after their hell experience and the change it brought about them, they felt it would have taken something like that to occur for them to trully change the path they were on prior to that occurring. There are quite a few stories of people seeing friends, associates etc they they knew prior all suffering in hell. I know, the place is crowded to the brink and yet they can see people connected to their life amongst that without searching around. I dont understand that either. The one common theme I can find is that they can observe hell as a whole in one second and then the next it's like a lens has been placed in front and it focuses straight on someone relevant to them. Dont get me wrong, they dont report a lens, its' the best i can do to put it into some kind of descrption that we could relate to somehow. This would make sense if the experience is unique to them and therefore shown reference to something that would resonate with them. This guy though? I dont know, thats where my own thoughts on all that stop at the logic I can comprehend in all this. There are others who report seeing celebrities as well, I dont know what to make of those either honestly. What I can tell you though is that there are a more than a few stories that report witnessing an area of hell stacked with the cubes. There are also similarities between other areas people have managed to describe which seem to tie up with other NDE accounts.
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so out of the 100's of thousands, if not MILLIONS of people he saw burning in these cubes in hell, he got to see HITLER...

how cliche

not Josef Stalin, not Mao Ze Dong, not Pol Pot, not Friedrich Engels, not Karl Marx, not Leon Traotsky, not Vladimir Lenin, not Che Guervera...

but THE ONE AND ONLY, HISTORY'S MOST PLAYED OUT CLICHE OF A TYRANT...

DRUM ROLL PLEASE...

uncle Addy...

how childishly cliche
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Vintagethis

Way too convenient...
 Quoting: Little Red Hen


Some of these people report that after their hell experience and the change it brought about them, they felt it would have taken something like that to occur for them to trully change the path they were on prior to that occurring. There are quite a few stories of people seeing friends, associates etc they they knew prior all suffering in hell. I know, the place is crowded to the brink and yet they can see people connected to their life amongst that without searching around. I dont understand that either. The one common theme I can find is that they can observe hell as a whole in one second and then the next it's like a lens has been placed in front and it focuses straight on someone relevant to them. Dont get me wrong, they dont report a lens, its' the best i can do to put it into some kind of descrption that we could relate to somehow. This would make sense if the experience is unique to them and therefore shown reference to something that would resonate with them. This guy though? I dont know, thats where my own thoughts on all that stop at the logic I can comprehend in all this. There are others who report seeing celebrities as well, I dont know what to make of those either honestly. What I can tell you though is that there are a more than a few stories that report witnessing an area of hell stacked with the cubes. There are also similarities between other areas people have managed to describe which seem to tie up with other NDE accounts.
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Yes, very interesting that Hell has cubes and the area inside them vary drastically. Some are as small as a coffin, where others are as large as a farm....

Heaven is similar. There are Houses/Areas for each person. They are not cubes, they are bubbles. Note that Hell prepares a demonic setting for your stay. Heaven lets you choose what scene you would like to stay in. You get to create your own Heaven in that Bubble. You are not isolated from others either. You can enter other's Areas/Bubbles and when your done visiting, then you return to your own space/bubble. You can go anywhere in Heaven and travel at the speed of light. Its very eye opening and pleasing...
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Take it or leave it, my own conclusion on hell is it seems very much like a place. It can be observed from the outside by people not destined, entered from above and has outter parameters, an edge if you like that allow access in but are oblviousas to being a point of exit if you're on the other side. It doesnt sound like a place of the mind, it sounds more like somewhere that is physically in the in the closest sense I can understand it. In terms of peoples escape, I have only found 2 scenarios. Saved by god or medical science on this side manages to pull you back if you're so lucky enough to have something they can save you from. Other than that, Ive heard nothing of people leaving via the outter parameters or glimpses of what would seem an exit point and a way to escape your self using other entry points.
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Hell is a human construct to keep you tithing out of fear.
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Hell is a human construct to keep you tithing out of fear.
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Tithing will not get you into Heaven. So why would people Tithe out of fear....

That's nonsense....
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so out of the 100's of thousands, if not MILLIONS of people he saw burning in these cubes in hell, he got to see HITLER...

how cliche

not Josef Stalin, not Mao Ze Dong, not Pol Pot, not Friedrich Engels, not Karl Marx, not Leon Traotsky, not Vladimir Lenin, not Che Guervera...

but THE ONE AND ONLY, HISTORY'S MOST PLAYED OUT CLICHE OF A TYRANT...

DRUM ROLL PLEASE...

uncle Addy...

how childishly cliche
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:Vintagethis:

Way too convenient...
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Some of these people report that after their hell experience and the change it brought about them, they felt it would have taken something like that to occur for them to trully change the path they were on prior to that occurring. There are quite a few stories of people seeing friends, associates etc they they knew prior all suffering in hell. I know, the place is crowded to the brink and yet they can see people connected to their life amongst that without searching around. I dont understand that either. The one common theme I can find is that they can observe hell as a whole in one second and then the next it's like a lens has been placed in front and it focuses straight on someone relevant to them. Dont get me wrong, they dont report a lens, its' the best i can do to put it into some kind of descrption that we could relate to somehow. This would make sense if the experience is unique to them and therefore shown reference to something that would resonate with them. This guy though? I dont know, thats where my own thoughts on all that stop at the logic I can comprehend in all this. There are others who report seeing celebrities as well, I dont know what to make of those either honestly. What I can tell you though is that there are a more than a few stories that report witnessing an area of hell stacked with the cubes. There are also similarities between other areas people have managed to describe which seem to tie up with other NDE accounts.
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Yes, very interesting that Hell has cubes and the area inside them vary drastically. Some are as small as a coffin, where others are as large as a farm....

Heaven is similar. There are Houses/Areas for each person. They are not cubes, they are bubbles. Note that Hell prepares a demonic setting for your stay. Heaven lets you choose what scene you would like to stay in. You get to create your own Heaven in that Bubble. You are not isolated from others either. You can enter other's Areas/Bubbles and when your done visiting, then you return to your own space/bubble. You can go anywhere in Heaven and travel at the speed of light. Its very eye opening and pleasing...
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I would just be content with somewhere to sit amongst the meadows, at peace with the choas of the life I would have come from and in the company of others where friendships can still be made and time spent with loved ones. Everything else people describe beyond that is more than I would want to wish for honestly. No physical desire for food or any of that. Weather seems to be good, nothing to fear or any darkness - to be honest I struggle to see why we would need a house in the respect of how a home is typically used on this side. But, I have such a limited inisight, there is more I know I am missing :)
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I feel your sarcasm fella, it does seem like a joke huh? or at least something thats so beyond what you currently think, its laughable that it exists.

Stop what your doing right now and keep looking around your room and wave to your self. This moment will be relived in the life review when you pass. I'm doubting they will fast forward pass this bit, you can at least look at your self waving back in glee when you finally know the truth for your self and discover which one if us is right. It would take quite an ego to say theyre all lieing and you knew this because.... well, its just easier to believe right?
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Yea but if you aren't a bad person why would you be punished in your afterlife?

I can see if you are an asshole, rapist, murderer, in general spending your life making other's miserable. But what about just a regular person who doesn't do any wrong to anyone? Helps when they can and just lives a normal life?

Why should they go to hell?
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No way they would if you ask me. At least I hope not anyway. I would hope h.e. double hockey sticks is reserved for the worst of the worst!
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Vintagethis

Way too convenient...
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Some of these people report that after their hell experience and the change it brought about them, they felt it would have taken something like that to occur for them to trully change the path they were on prior to that occurring. There are quite a few stories of people seeing friends, associates etc they they knew prior all suffering in hell. I know, the place is crowded to the brink and yet they can see people connected to their life amongst that without searching around. I dont understand that either. The one common theme I can find is that they can observe hell as a whole in one second and then the next it's like a lens has been placed in front and it focuses straight on someone relevant to them. Dont get me wrong, they dont report a lens, its' the best i can do to put it into some kind of descrption that we could relate to somehow. This would make sense if the experience is unique to them and therefore shown reference to something that would resonate with them. This guy though? I dont know, thats where my own thoughts on all that stop at the logic I can comprehend in all this. There are others who report seeing celebrities as well, I dont know what to make of those either honestly. What I can tell you though is that there are a more than a few stories that report witnessing an area of hell stacked with the cubes. There are also similarities between other areas people have managed to describe which seem to tie up with other NDE accounts.
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Yes, very interesting that Hell has cubes and the area inside them vary drastically. Some are as small as a coffin, where others are as large as a farm....

Heaven is similar. There are Houses/Areas for each person. They are not cubes, they are bubbles. Note that Hell prepares a demonic setting for your stay. Heaven lets you choose what scene you would like to stay in. You get to create your own Heaven in that Bubble. You are not isolated from others either. You can enter other's Areas/Bubbles and when your done visiting, then you return to your own space/bubble. You can go anywhere in Heaven and travel at the speed of light. Its very eye opening and pleasing...
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I would just be content with somewhere to sit amongst the meadows, at peace with the choas of the life I would have come from and in the company of others where friendships can still be made and time spent with loved ones. Everything else people describe beyond that is more than I would want to wish for honestly. No physical desire for food or any of that. Weather seems to be good, nothing to fear or any darkness - to be honest I struggle to see why we would need a house in the respect of how a home is typically used on this side. But, I have such a limited inisight, there is more I know I am missing :)
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Exactly, you don't need a house on the otherside. We are just accustomed to being in a place, called a home, that we reside in. Home could be a tent next to a beautiful stream and the grounds have beautiful wild flowers and the colors are extraordinary. Heaven is what we make it. That is also like saying, why do you need a bed in Heaven, since you don't have to sleep. It is because we are used to things and eventually those things fade and new memories take over. Eventually if we peel back the onion/layers of Heaven and get to higher levels you may find spirits just meditating and praising God....

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We live on a planet that has evolved from billions of years of survival of the fittest. Yet, don't mention hell. Oh, no don't mention that possibilities of something that dramatic.
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Some of these people report that after their hell experience and the change it brought about them, they felt it would have taken something like that to occur for them to trully change the path they were on prior to that occurring. There are quite a few stories of people seeing friends, associates etc they they knew prior all suffering in hell. I know, the place is crowded to the brink and yet they can see people connected to their life amongst that without searching around. I dont understand that either. The one common theme I can find is that they can observe hell as a whole in one second and then the next it's like a lens has been placed in front and it focuses straight on someone relevant to them. Dont get me wrong, they dont report a lens, its' the best i can do to put it into some kind of descrption that we could relate to somehow. This would make sense if the experience is unique to them and therefore shown reference to something that would resonate with them. This guy though? I dont know, thats where my own thoughts on all that stop at the logic I can comprehend in all this. There are others who report seeing celebrities as well, I dont know what to make of those either honestly. What I can tell you though is that there are a more than a few stories that report witnessing an area of hell stacked with the cubes. There are also similarities between other areas people have managed to describe which seem to tie up with other NDE accounts.
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Yes, very interesting that Hell has cubes and the area inside them vary drastically. Some are as small as a coffin, where others are as large as a farm....

Heaven is similar. There are Houses/Areas for each person. They are not cubes, they are bubbles. Note that Hell prepares a demonic setting for your stay. Heaven lets you choose what scene you would like to stay in. You get to create your own Heaven in that Bubble. You are not isolated from others either. You can enter other's Areas/Bubbles and when your done visiting, then you return to your own space/bubble. You can go anywhere in Heaven and travel at the speed of light. Its very eye opening and pleasing...
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I would just be content with somewhere to sit amongst the meadows, at peace with the choas of the life I would have come from and in the company of others where friendships can still be made and time spent with loved ones. Everything else people describe beyond that is more than I would want to wish for honestly. No physical desire for food or any of that. Weather seems to be good, nothing to fear or any darkness - to be honest I struggle to see why we would need a house in the respect of how a home is typically used on this side. But, I have such a limited inisight, there is more I know I am missing :)
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Exactly, you don't need a house on the otherside. We are just accustomed to being in a place, called a home, that we reside in. Home could be a tent next to a beautiful stream and the grounds have beautiful wild flowers and the colors are extraordinary. Heaven is what we make it...
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Dont get me wrong, the houses segment I understand are for people like saints, rather than someone who's kind of just fumbled through life and made it. My thinking is would we really need a house to be at bliss if the physical desires we have this side are no longer part of us? Laugh at me because this may sound silly but without the physical body, the typical acts carried out by husband and wife could no lobger occur if you catch my drift? Without needing food, theres no need for a toilet? Any act of what we typically require privacy for is removed and I'm guessing the desires that go with that as a result of being removed from physical form?

Please feel free to help me out here? I have no idea on the above. That is just all assumption on my part.
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That would mean heaven would be full of souls in eternal torment, as they watch their loved ones suffer in hell. The whole afterlife is torture for monotheists.Many of them never stop complaining about this life , either, so its misery the whole way.
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You know. I've always wondered about that.
The bible speaks of no more sorrow when we get to heaven.

But what about people with unsaved friends and family?
Will they be given some sort of amnesia when they get to heaven?

How can people rejoice in eternity knowing that people they know will be suffering for eternity??

Even watching the Christian play "Eternity"
They had scenes where friends or family ended up dying at the same time in an accident. And one would go on to heaven blissfully while the other dragged away.
That always left me uneasy.
Which brings up another question.
If Christians are so certain of the reality of Hell. Youd think theyd be desperately proselytizing? I guess deep down maybe many of us dont or dont want to believe such a place exists.
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As I understand it everything in Heaven only further contributes to the happiness of the saved, including knowledge of the damned. We'll be aware of the people in Hell, but it won't upset us. It's not something we can fully understand from an Earthly perspective.
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Yes, very interesting that Hell has cubes and the area inside them vary drastically. Some are as small as a coffin, where others are as large as a farm....

Heaven is similar. There are Houses/Areas for each person. They are not cubes, they are bubbles. Note that Hell prepares a demonic setting for your stay. Heaven lets you choose what scene you would like to stay in. You get to create your own Heaven in that Bubble. You are not isolated from others either. You can enter other's Areas/Bubbles and when your done visiting, then you return to your own space/bubble. You can go anywhere in Heaven and travel at the speed of light. Its very eye opening and pleasing...
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I would just be content with somewhere to sit amongst the meadows, at peace with the choas of the life I would have come from and in the company of others where friendships can still be made and time spent with loved ones. Everything else people describe beyond that is more than I would want to wish for honestly. No physical desire for food or any of that. Weather seems to be good, nothing to fear or any darkness - to be honest I struggle to see why we would need a house in the respect of how a home is typically used on this side. But, I have such a limited inisight, there is more I know I am missing :)
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Exactly, you don't need a house on the otherside. We are just accustomed to being in a place, called a home, that we reside in. Home could be a tent next to a beautiful stream and the grounds have beautiful wild flowers and the colors are extraordinary. Heaven is what we make it...
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Dont get me wrong, the houses segment I understand are for people like saints, rather than someone who's kind of just fumbled through life and made it. My thinking is would we really need a house to be at bliss if the physical desires we have this side are no longer part of us? Laugh at me because this may sound silly but without the physical body, the typical acts carried out by husband and wife could no lobger occur if you catch my drift? Without needing food, theres no need for a toilet? Any act of what we typically require privacy for is removed and I'm guessing the desires that go with that as a result of being removed from physical form?

Please feel free to help me out here? I have no idea on the above. That is just all assumption on my part.
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You are correct in your assumptions, but we become more spiritual and are placed in our new Heavenly bodies. We don't talk to communicate. We would use a form of telepathy. It's like a batch transmission. You now everything in a blink of an eye. Our eyes don't just see ROYGBIV, but see many more colors and they are more brilliant. We also love, but its not sexual and its much deeper. We do have physical desires in Heaven. We all like to see things, go places, meet other people and enjoy other's company. So you can play volleyball with friends and then go skiing in the Alps. There is no limit to what the imagination can generate. Once we are done pleasing ourselves and others then we begin the journey of spirituality where external desires become less meaningful and thankfulness and praise to God becomes more relevant. That is why it is said in Heaven that everything praises the Lord God....

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I'm a Christian and Hell is bullshit. Either you have a soul or not.

If God do not see it good, God will not formed it from void!.

Clearly OP is another die hard reborn again RCC muppet.

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DMT
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If it helps, breaking down the events and sequence as described helped also clarify the realities of this. Stage 1, spirit disconnect. Thankfully this part is a little easier to prove that having to die first. Do some digging on OBE's and insights based on DMT. What happens after is obviously only achievable from going to the edge of your mortality yourself. This next stage (2) is transportation to a black void. I kind of interpretate this as the realm between heaven and hell. Now, what happens next can alter, some then progress to a life review where the relive all their choices and experience the consequences of those choices. Some cases I have heard with this seems to be skipped and an individual is dragged straight to hell from the void.

But understand this, heaven is as real as hell. There is a nice place to actually go after, only we're a bit late to the party and have some catching up todo if thats the destination you want head too! Keep looking at more hell NDE's, trust me, this does not sound like a place we want to be heading :(
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All get a life review.

Yep, both fake as fuck.
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went to hell in 2006 on an nde...turns out it is just black for me....nothing. A black hole would be more inviting. Can't wait to die...
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Hey AC, thank you for sharing that. You're not the only one reporting that a black void was as much as you saw in the experience. I have no idea what this must feel like either!! Do you mind if I ask a couple of questions in relation to this? Depending on how the event occurred and weather or not there was time before hand to experience this initial part, there are many that report an initial buzzing sound the rapidly builds in volume before suddenly stopping. This is actually really common with people taking DMT as well and have no doubt it's probably the first sign you'll be aware of that its happening. Is this something you managed to experience? Not everyone does dont get me wrong but I think this is down to where the body is at that point (hooked up to various medicines in hospital, sudden death etc).

The other common relation seems to be a sense of no time, I'm not sure how this is felt but some do seem to be aware that things are not moving forward as such? Another major event that a high number report upon initial crossing is the sensation of feeling more relaxed. Still conciously aware of there life before crossing and despite having children in this life, they sense they feel they're now somewhere they feel is incredibly natural in terms of the sensations occurring. A sudden increase of euphoria if you will but with some kind of awareness that they dont need to worry about those they left behind? Is there anything could report that you were aware of in that sense?


The only thing I can offer some insight on is that by the pattern of events I picked up from all of these, you were only at the point of crossing but had you remained there longer one of these (or maybe more? I dont know?) would have started to happen:


1. You will start to here voices from around you and figures will emerge that appear of human form, but their faces dont seem to be clear. They'll encourage you to walk with them, taking advantage of the confusion that you're in. They seem to become aggressive if you dont go or start to question where you're being led to. As you would expect from this kind of behaviour, they're leading you to hell.

2. A light will start to appear and you will be drawn to it. Not like a moth, more of a sensation of being pulled that way.

In terms of events after the light, this is where the life review part seems to occur. As to who is present and how that sequence of memories is displayed in front of you seems to differ. I would love to know if its more like viewing images but having the sensation of the experience being felt in the form that you are or if you're almost sucked into the memory again and for a brief moment, are there feeling it and seeing as if though it were happening again, rather than witnessing it in a frame as such and observing with the emotional connection. Regardless of who is reported as being present, from the ones I have watched, this being or beings do not radiate an energy that's of fear.

To the best of the ones I have listened to, Ive not heard one life review take place in hell, it seems to happen prior, almost like you're getting a fair trial or something. I would certainly prefer that kind of scenario rather than the monsters of the deep surrounding me during a life review.
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It was drug induced and I don't do drugs. All I can describe it as is being disconnected from life itself. It was the most frightening experience ever imagineable. There was no trial, just empty and thinking over and over again I don't want to dle...guess that worked for me. It was so bad that just thinking or writing about it takes me back there.
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so out of the 100's of thousands, if not MILLIONS of people he saw burning in these cubes in hell, he got to see HITLER...

how cliche

not Josef Stalin, not Mao Ze Dong, not Pol Pot, not Friedrich Engels, not Karl Marx, not Leon Traotsky, not Vladimir Lenin, not Che Guervera...

but THE ONE AND ONLY, HISTORY'S MOST PLAYED OUT CLICHE OF A TYRANT...

DRUM ROLL PLEASE...

uncle Addy...

how childishly cliche
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You raise a great point friend, which is similar to what I noticed a while ago about all the ordinary common themed "heaven" NDEs. Did you ever notice that they are all completely childish and lacked any concept of sexuality or adult element into their story??? I mean seriously it seems they are all written by idiot women or eunuchs or something! It's as if they were all written by Disney writers or mr Rodgers or something! That right there was a dead give away that the NDE thing is bullshit propaganda. I mean, I'm not saying afterlife or anything doesn't exist but this whole NDE storytelling is BOGUS!!!!
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went to hell in 2006 on an nde...turns out it is just black for me....nothing. A black hole would be more inviting. Can't wait to die...
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Hey AC, thank you for sharing that. You're not the only one reporting that a black void was as much as you saw in the experience. I have no idea what this must feel like either!! Do you mind if I ask a couple of questions in relation to this? Depending on how the event occurred and weather or not there was time before hand to experience this initial part, there are many that report an initial buzzing sound the rapidly builds in volume before suddenly stopping. This is actually really common with people taking DMT as well and have no doubt it's probably the first sign you'll be aware of that its happening. Is this something you managed to experience? Not everyone does dont get me wrong but I think this is down to where the body is at that point (hooked up to various medicines in hospital, sudden death etc).

The other common relation seems to be a sense of no time, I'm not sure how this is felt but some do seem to be aware that things are not moving forward as such? Another major event that a high number report upon initial crossing is the sensation of feeling more relaxed. Still conciously aware of there life before crossing and despite having children in this life, they sense they feel they're now somewhere they feel is incredibly natural in terms of the sensations occurring. A sudden increase of euphoria if you will but with some kind of awareness that they dont need to worry about those they left behind? Is there anything could report that you were aware of in that sense?


The only thing I can offer some insight on is that by the pattern of events I picked up from all of these, you were only at the point of crossing but had you remained there longer one of these (or maybe more? I dont know?) would have started to happen:


1. You will start to here voices from around you and figures will emerge that appear of human form, but their faces dont seem to be clear. They'll encourage you to walk with them, taking advantage of the confusion that you're in. They seem to become aggressive if you dont go or start to question where you're being led to. As you would expect from this kind of behaviour, they're leading you to hell.

2. A light will start to appear and you will be drawn to it. Not like a moth, more of a sensation of being pulled that way.

In terms of events after the light, this is where the life review part seems to occur. As to who is present and how that sequence of memories is displayed in front of you seems to differ. I would love to know if its more like viewing images but having the sensation of the experience being felt in the form that you are or if you're almost sucked into the memory again and for a brief moment, are there feeling it and seeing as if though it were happening again, rather than witnessing it in a frame as such and observing with the emotional connection. Regardless of who is reported as being present, from the ones I have watched, this being or beings do not radiate an energy that's of fear.

To the best of the ones I have listened to, Ive not heard one life review take place in hell, it seems to happen prior, almost like you're getting a fair trial or something. I would certainly prefer that kind of scenario rather than the monsters of the deep surrounding me during a life review.
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It was drug induced and I don't do drugs. All I can describe it as is being disconnected from life itself. It was the most frightening experience ever imagineable. There was no trial, just empty and thinking over and over again I don't want to dle...guess that worked for me. It was so bad that just thinking or writing about it takes me back there.
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Hey AC, thanks for responding and sharing your experience. I'm sorry to hear that it has left you with a negative memory of the whole thing. There's one more thing I would love to ask you, but this thread has created enough entertainment already I think for you to answer it honestly without a backlash of any kind from the sleepers on the side. If you've been there, you would have come back with it but understandably want to keep it quiet.


So, for the others who've come by for an encore, I'm afraid that's all I have for you. But for the all knowings who've been awake since midnight and look for chatter amongst the I cant believes.., you knew that already didn't you?.... I'm not sure what causes the rest of you more threat here. Someone who brings other testimonies and admits they don't have all the pieces and posts from a perspective of own thoughts - or those who act like they do know it all and are so enlightened that they've been blinded not by light but their own ego and in reality know absolute very little about the lives of those they harvest for fun. Shame, seemed to cause more of an action to help others or at least trigger enough to look further than simply mocking or quoting. As amusing as I am sure it has been, ive stood my own ground on a subject presented in a way that neither party has appreciated and with little knowledge from the bible to back me up. But I didnt need too. I'm not making the claims, I simply pointed out the statistic of testimonies that say otherwise and show the breadcrumbs of the common pattern that can be shown. The only thing thats been attacked is the ignorance in which to look. I'm more amazed it has been savaged by some of the all knowing whizmical trolls. Not the ones that seek to aid but the ones that seek to mock. Given view counts of the thread, I am amazed by the low attack rate its had apart from the one shot one liners - and all those that bring 'the idiots answers to all' in Giff.
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That would mean heaven would be full of souls in eternal torment, as they watch their loved ones suffer in hell. The whole afterlife is torture for monotheists.Many of them never stop complaining about this life , either, so its misery the whole way.
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You know. I've always wondered about that.
The bible speaks of no more sorrow when we get to heaven.

But what about people with unsaved friends and family?
Will they be given some sort of amnesia when they get to heaven?

How can people rejoice in eternity knowing that people they know will be suffering for eternity??

Even watching the Christian play "Eternity"
They had scenes where friends or family ended up dying at the same time in an accident. And one would go on to heaven blissfully while the other dragged away.
That always left me uneasy.
Which brings up another question.
If Christians are so certain of the reality of Hell. Youd think theyd be desperately proselytizing? I guess deep down maybe many of us dont or dont want to believe such a place exists.
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Cause DEEP DOWN we all KNOW that God is not a torture loving revenge obsessed sadistic family shattering total and ytter CUNT as hristians TEACH him to be.

Think about what GOD IS...

GOD is ALL POWERFUL..and NOTHING WHATSOEVER IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE...

AND HIS WILL IS ABOVE ALL AND IS UNTHWARTABLE...and CANNOT BE ANNULLED...then..

EVERYONE EVER BORN IN ONE WAY...OR ANOTHER...WILL BE SAVED...AT SOME POINT...SIMPLY BECAUSE...

IT IS NOT HIS WILL THAT ANYONE SHOULD PERISH.

And if its HIS WILL THAT ALL COME TO KNOW HIM..

THEN...ALL...WILL!!!

Because IF HE CANNOT SAVE EVERYONE...THEN HIS WILL IS NULL AND VOID...HIS POWER LIMITED...AND SAVING ALL IS IN FACT...IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM TO DO..

Thus...MAKING HIM A LIAR AND HIS OWN WORDS LIES..AND HIS WILL......simply a forlorne...wish.

According to MOST CHRISTIANS...HE IS UTTERLY POWERLESS TO SAVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF MANKIND...EVEN THOUGH NOTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM.

And if OUR WILL...IS STRONGER THAN HIS WILL...MANKIND IS STRONGER...THAN...GOD..

AND THIS MEANS...

GOD IS AN UTTER FAILURE...A LIAR..AND A GIVER OF FALSE HOPES AND USELESS PROMISES..TO BECOME ALL IN ALL.

Christians are mostly misreable and always depressed or angry because they TRY SO HARD to believe a LIE and thus suffer CONSTANT cognitive dissonance.
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Hell is death, the opposite is life, Just so you know.
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Hell sounds fun, can't wait to go.
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All I bring is testimonies, your all to caught up or being deliberately diverted to the wheres and hows of topic presented - rather than the message in which it brings. Some appear to have completely fallen apart on the fact that upon realizing this my self and despite little religious background, I can observe this and acknowledge what that means for me. Instead of me pretending that its not there, I have seek to help bring the information to light and the patterns that form evidence to support it. I know my current destiny, that is my own burden, the for everyone else at the moment the crime is being denied the knowledge and the choice that exists. I am a nobody here, I never expected this to have heavy hitting weight, its a message no one's to hear told in a way that no one agrees purely because they cant work out the motivation behind its intent. ITS SIMPLE - WAKE UP TO ITS EXISTENCE AND MOVE FORWARD KNOWING SO - that's it. For those that did dare to pick up the breadcrumbs laid down, you must have worked out by now the underlining message in all of them? Actions and consequences. There are many reports that people are shown events that happened 30 years prior to their passing and judged on what they said to shopkeeper they only ever met once. It doesn't matter how clever you think you are, how rich you are - non of that. Its simple cause and effect - positive and negative and how far the ripple extends beyond the choices that you made. Whats to deny or work out? If you have mass testimonies and evidence to prove otherwise, lay it out and help us all and do so at the source rather than your own dark minds. Its to easy to hide in the corners and speak in a way that has only lead to your own delusions looking for context beyond its intended meaning.

. I have hung my self out and exposed my self as one who is effected by this. Your shock is down to the admittance, rather than whys. Some may laugh and point at my own down falls, very little of you have managed to produce something that has helped anyone see otherwise. I have asked many questions in previous threads which have been posed in a way that asks for either reference to a particular subject or suggestion of the interpretation and how that might actually account for the question I am asking. All have been ignored for either ones own ego that they cant confess to not knowing the answer or because it dangerously invades their own belief system.


I feel compelled to write this because I am still struggling with my own downfalls which I know indicates I am heading somewhere I know to be true and desperately do not want to go. I have struggled with have the life I led lead me to know hope of what lays before me.

But I watched a new NDE last night, he describes how god could see him in the life review he was given and crumbled when he could see how god saw him. It was the part of him describing how he was saved as a baby and shown the evidence of how god was present in human form that day and was the very thing that saved him and his mother. After he said this, I had a flash of a story my mother once stated about how poorly I was at 18 months old. They knew something wasnt quite right but long story short, drove some 150+ miles away to a hospital that would accept there was more going on than a simple bug. They never found out what the problem was and were struggling to deal with it but I was allegedly in so much pain and that agitated, my mum had to leave the room and she couldn't endure the screams which I cried out. It was around about then that a priest appears from no where and began to pray over me. My mum was more angry than anything that someone had felt that I was that poorly that they sent for one. Only no one did and she still doesn't know why he appeared. He done his blessing and left, shortly after I calmed down, took the fluids and began to get better. I find my self now wondering if this event was of similar nature. And then there is my partner who had pneumonia just some months ago. Neither of new she had it or how bad it would become. I was to self absorbed doing what I do daily to keep the roof over our heads I didnt even know she was downstairs rapidly declining in health, i thought she was at work still. She has always been someone who doesn't complain and just gets on with it. It wasn't until her friend came round at lunchtime to check on her did I begin to even realize she was home and that there was a problem. I know had her friend not come round, she would still have been downstairs slipping away slowly, both of us unaware of events unfolding or the help she needed. She was saved that day, there is no other way I can put it if I am tru to my self as to why she is her now. She questioned if she was being punished, when in reality she was being saved. She was where she needed to be with people who could something about it before anyone knew what the problem even was by that stage. An intervention had occurred. With all those I had lost before me, there is no way i could have got back up from that blow had that not happened and I had lost her. But my internal termoils of not understanding why my brother suffered the way he did shall always remain. I still dont know but rather than resent, I believe it is something that will be answered when it needs to be. Until then, I just need to worry about what I know now and what I am going to do about it. Maybe some of you should be thinking the same. I can face my imperfections, you can judge me, but its value holds nothing against the opinion of the one who will decide a final destiny.


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Nothing dies and then comes back to life. These people were not dead.
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Only thing that needs so be said. All " ndes" are bullshit, you're either dead or alive. There is no in-between.
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Yes, they are actually dead. The life leaves the body, this happens all the time. One is either stupidified by fear to realize that there is no such thing as life, or they are so clingingly stuck to life that they are demiurgic.
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These people are talking about the afterlife trap. This is all a supercomputer system that pretend to be god, it's all a scam.
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I feel your sarcasm fella, it does seem like a joke huh? or at least something thats so beyond what you currently think, its laughable that it exists.

Stop what your doing right now and keep looking around your room and wave to your self. This moment will be relived in the life review when you pass. I'm doubting they will fast forward pass this bit, you can at least look at your self waving back in glee when you finally know the truth for your self and discover which one if us is right. It would take quite an ego to say theyre all lieing and you knew this because.... well, its just easier to believe right?
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Are you that idiot that write tracts?
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This is one way to jump timelines.





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