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Rabbis seek to resume animal sacrifices
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

A fringe group of extremist rabbis wants to resume the biblical practice of animal sacrifice at Jerusalem's Temple Mount, members said Wednesday, defying centuries of religious bans and triggering a stiff protest from a Muslim leader.

The group, called the "Re-established Sanhedrin" after the Temple-era religious high court, has decided to buy some sheep and try to find one that is ritually perfect for sacrifice, with an eye toward resuming the practice.

"Regrettably, there are many extremist Israeli groups who want to carry out their plans," said Jerusalem's senior Islamic cleric, Mohammed Hussein. "Let them say what they want, Al Aqsa is a Muslim mosque."

The 71 members of the "Re-established Sanhedrin" say they want to begin sacrificing animals again, despite the absence of the Temple, the ritual altar and all the required implements listed in the Bible. Rabbi Dov Stein of the group admitted that it won't be any time soon.

"We want to do the sacrifice, but we have political problems," Stein said. "We hope there will come a time when the government will agree. We will push for that to happen."

Other rabbis point out that ritual animal sacrifice has been banned since the destruction of the Second Temple in A.D. 70.

"Around that time, animal sacrifice, as a mode of religious worship, stopped for Jews, Christians and Muslims," said Rabbi Doniel Hartman of the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. "Moving back in that direction is not progress."

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my father told me to watch for something like this to happen in the end times. i mean - if they actually start doing this.. it will be a large sign to me.
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We're doomed.

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Prophecy: NO

Barbeque: YES

This is just a ploy to get the Christian Zionists to send more money to them
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my father told me to watch for something like this to happen in the end times. i mean - if they actually start doing this.. it will be a large sign to me.
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It has to do with the scripture in Daniel that says when you see the “abomination” in the holy place.

Jesus was the sacrifice for sin. When they go back to sacrificing animals, it is said to be a sign of the end.

Hal Lindsey I think. Cant remember for sure.
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Exactly, if this is allowed to
happen, better run for the hills.

This is a good candidate for
the abomination of desolation
in the holy place.

Since 70AD what have the Jews
used for sin atonement?
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Since 70AD what have the Jews
used for sin atonement?
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They confess to Catholic priests.

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lol
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animals = goyim to 'them', no?
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To think its been since 70ad and all of a sudden they want to begin it again,,,now?

Im not much of an end times believer and I dont believe much about bible prophecy but this has got to be more than a cooinkidink.

Kinda spooky.
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waiting, and watching events! If these people are extremist, why should they wait for the Israel government for permission?




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If memory serves me correct if there were no 'animals to be found for sacrifice you could leave a substitute, flour;
Le;5;7:
And if he be not able to bring a lamb,
then he shall bring for his trespass,
which he hath committed,
two turtledoves,
or two young pigeons,
unto the LORD;
one for a sin offering,
and the other for a burnt offering.

Le;5;11:
But if he be not able to bring two turtledoves,
or two young pigeons,
then he that sinned shall bring for his offering the tenth part of an ephah of fine flour for a sin offering;
he shall put no oil upon it,
neither shall he put any frankincense thereon:
for it is a sin offering.

Today there are no 'holding pens', if you don't build any new ones you do not have any animals for sacrifice.

That is one reason, an even more important one is because of this. Jesus was the last blood sacrifice, to offer up other life for the same reason would be seen as an abomination to Him;
Isa;66;2:
For all those things hath mine hand made,
and those things have been,
saith the LORD:
but to this man will I look,
even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit,
and trembleth at my word.
Isa;66;3:
He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man;
he that sacrificeth a lamb,
as if he cut off a dog's neck;
he that offereth an oblation,
as if he offered swine's blood;
he that burneth incense,
as if he blessed an idol.
Yea,
they have chosen their own ways,
and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
Isa;66;4:
I also will choose their delusions,
and will bring their fears upon them;
because when I called,
none did answer;
when I spake,
they did not hear:
but they did evil before mine eyes,
and chose that in which I delighted not.

You can pretty much guess how it goes after this for the above. God wasn't even all that fond of this back in the OT, it was a necessity back then, that is no longer the case. Suffer through these next verses, one verse by itself does not do justice to the subject, make the wrong free choice and the outcomes are very different;

Isa;1;9-22:
Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant,
we should have been as Sodom,
and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
Hear the word of the LORD,
ye rulers of Sodom;
give ear unto the law of our God,
ye people of Gomorrah.
To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD:
I am full of the burnt offerings of rams,
and the fat of fed beasts;
and I delight not in the blood of bullocks,
or of lambs,
or of he goats.
When ye come to appear before me,
who hath required this at your hand,
to tread my courts?
Bring no more vain oblations;
incense is an abomination unto me;
the new moons and sabbaths,
the calling of assemblies,
I cannot away with;
it is iniquity,
even the solemn meeting.
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me;
I am weary to bear them.
And when ye spread forth your hands,
I will hide mine eyes from you:
yea,
when ye make many prayers,
I will not hear:
your hands are full of blood.
Wash you,
make you clean;
put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Learn to do well;
seek judgment,
relieve the oppressed,
judge the fatherless,
plead for the widow.
Come now,
and let us reason together,
saith the LORD:
though your sins be as scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they be red like crimson,
they shall be as wool.
If ye be willing and obedient,
ye shall eat the good of the land:
But if ye refuse and rebel,
ye shall be devoured with the sword:
for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
How is the faithful city become an harlot!
it was full of judgment;
righteousness lodged in it;
but now murderers.
Thy silver is become dross,
thy wine mixed with water:

Sodom and Gomorrah in Revelations refers to the place the two witnesses are killed, Jerusalem BTW. Since the planned action has links to the Bible, and the Bible is not silent on this subject, and taken into account the above verses, all I can say is "Best of luck with that but I will pass and stick with prayer, don't bitch if the attention it draws from above is not just what you had expected."
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This is a good candidate for
the abomination of desolation
in the holy place.

Since 70AD what have the Jews
used for sin atonement?
 Quoting: impetigo 2671


Not compared to putting a throne in there and having someone sit on it claiming to be God.

Prayer seem to work pretty good for Daniel when he was in exile.
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It has to do with the scripture in Daniel that says when you see the “abomination” in the holy place.

Jesus was the sacrifice for sin. When they go back to sacrificing animals, it is said to be a sign of the end.

Hal Lindsey I think. Cant remember for sure.
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PACNWman you bible thumper you!

Actually, that prophecy was fulfilled physically by Antichus Epiphanes, about 150 years before Christ.

Spiritually, it has to do with profaning the temple with the temple being our bodies. I've had only three profane thoughts today, how about you??!?
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This is a good candidate for
the abomination of desolation
in the holy place.

Since 70AD what have the Jews
used for sin atonement?


Not compared to putting a throne in there and having someone sit on it claiming to be God.

Prayer seem to work pretty good for Daniel when he was in exile.
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>>>>Not compared to putting a throne in there and having someone sit on it claiming to be God.<<<<


Exactly, that is the REAL 'abomination of desolation'.

Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, let (him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains:


2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
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It has to do with the scripture in Daniel that says when you see the “abomination” in the holy place.

Jesus was the sacrifice for sin. When they go back to sacrificing animals, it is said to be a sign of the end.

Hal Lindsey I think. Cant remember for sure.


PACNWman you bible thumper you!

Actually, that prophecy was fulfilled physically by Antichus Epiphanes, about 150 years before Christ.

Spiritually, it has to do with profaning the temple with the temple being our bodies. I've had only three profane thoughts today, how about you??!?
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yeay im a jew let get on with the bible prophecy hf
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It has to do with the scripture in Daniel that says when you see the “abomination” in the holy place.

Jesus was the sacrifice for sin. When they go back to sacrificing animals, it is said to be a sign of the end.

Hal Lindsey I think. Cant remember for sure.


PACNWman you bible thumper you!

Actually, that prophecy was fulfilled physically by Antichus Epiphanes, about 150 years before Christ.

Spiritually, it has to do with profaning the temple with the temple being our bodies. I've had only three profane thoughts today, how about you??!?
 Quoting: ButchHowdy


>>>>Actually, that prophecy was fulfilled physically by Antichus Epiphanes, about 150 years before Christ.
((the “abomination” in the holy place.)) <<<<

Oh really? I guess Jesus didn't know about that when he said this:

Mar 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, let (him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judea flee to the mountains:


I am so happy that you (Butch) are so much more learned that Jesus. (sarcasm, just in case you don't get it)
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Yes, the Bible does predict there will be a temple in Jerusalem in the last days.

The antichrist will desecrate it.

These things will happen.

Write it down.

How many Bible prophecies have to come to pass before you will believe?

Here is a presentation about a prophecy about Jesus that will blow your mind:

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The implements for the temple and sacrifices are already created and awaiting a temple.
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The rebuilding of the Holy Temple: In our time?

The reality of the Jewish experience means that the Temple will be rebuilt. Many people who visit the Temple Institute are incredulous and cannot help but exclaim: "Do you really think that you will live to see the Holy Temple rebuilt?" The answer to that question is of little importance. Let us rather recall that Jewish history has a trajectory, which began when the patriarch Abraham smashed his father's idols. That trajectory has spanned the millennia, and it is obvious that we are rapidly approaching climactic times, in which the Holy Temple will once again become the focal point for mankind's spiritual focus. Whether this transpires in our generation or not, we can still choose to be active participants, and not simply spectators, in G-d's bold plan for the Redemption of Israel and all humanity.
-----------excerpt from the Temple Institute Statement


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Isn't the Muslim Dome an abomination
as well?
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Here is a presentation about a prophecy about Jesus that will blow your mind:

[link to www.xenos.org]
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I'm sorry. That link did not "blow my mind." I want a refund.
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It has to do with the scripture in Daniel that says when you see the “abomination” in the holy place.


Actually, that prophecy was fulfilled physically by Antichus Epiphanes, about 150 years before Christ.


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And, very often, there are more than one level of fulfillment with YHWH's prophecies. It happened then, and it will happen again.
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i thought they stopped once the last temple fell....therefore can't reestablish until the temple is rebuilt....which some say can happen because the mosque doesn't cover all of the original site
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Antichus Epiphanes...that's right...ruled as god...had coins made as god.

PACNWguy...surprised you'd post this.

they've been wanting to do sacrifices for more than just right now. they've been looking for the red heifer that is pure...funny they haven't had anything genetically altered yet so as to get one.

pfffttt.
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i thought they stopped once the last temple fell....therefore can't reestablish until the temple is rebuilt....which some say can happen because the mosque doesn't cover all of the original site
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if the israeli have their way it will happen as they continue their sidewalk construction or perhaps as they dig under the mosque.

people can create the most terrible things to happen.
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PACNWguy...surprised you'd post this.

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Why?
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Yes, the Bible does predict there will be a temple in Jerusalem in the last days.

The antichrist will desecrate it.
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Just what spot would you plant your palaces on if you wanted to convince people you were God, draw a line from these two references and see what city the line runs through;
Da;11;45:
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;
yet he shall come to his end,
and none shall help him.

Are you referencing Ezekiel's temple?
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Here is a presentation about a prophecy about Jesus that will blow your mind:

[link to www.xenos.org]


I'm sorry. That link did not "blow my mind." I want a refund.
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You didn't view the entire presentation. It takes 49 minutes.

I would love to hear some feedback from someone who viewed the entire 49 minute presentation.
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i thought they stopped once the last temple fell....therefore can't reestablish until the temple is rebuilt....which some say can happen because the mosque doesn't cover all of the original site
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There has been some rumors to the idea that the original temple was not located where the mosque is but off to one side, which would allow them to rebuild without delay. It is still being debated.
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MUCH ABOUT HISTORY
Temple's location found,
says Israeli archaeologist
Study of ancient cisterns pinpoints sacred site,
– Muslim Dome of the Rock outside confines
Posted: February 11, 2007
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Using maps created in 1866 by a British explorer and passages from the Jewish Mishnah, an Israeli archaeologist and professor at Hebrew University says he has pinpointed the location of the sacred Jewish Temple, twice built and twice destroyed in ancient times.

While popular consensus places the Temple, built by King Solomon in the 10th century B.C. and rebuilt by Jews who returned from Babylon in the 5th century B.C., on the site of the present Muslim Dome of the Rock, Prof. Joseph Patrich says archaeological remains show its exact location – and the consensus is wrong.


Dome of the Rock on Jerusalem's Temple Mount, facing west.


According to Patrich, the Temple, its corresponding courtyards, chambers and gates were oriented in a more southeasterly direction, sitting diagonally on what is the modern Temple Mount. The difference in orientation and the placement further eastward varies from the east-facing orientation of other scholars who believe the Temple was closer to today's Western Wall.

However, that difference is why, Patrich says, the Temple did not sit over the rock believed by Jews to be the site where Abraham was prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac and where Muslims believe Muhammad ascended into heaven.

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