It is very strange that we have NOT been back to the moon since 1972. What did they find???? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73095897 Australia 05/12/2017 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe the theory is we sent them into L.E.O. ( Low Earth Orbit) because of the Vam Allen belt. If you watch the video of " A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon" the producer claim , NASA accidentally sent him a film that showed the crew of Apollo 11 faking a shot out the window of the capsule . The flight time of film was supposed to be when the space capsule was between the Earth and Moon . It show the capsule was in L.E.O. It is on the Tube site. I didn't post it because I'm sure someone already has in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74280142 They also claim that Stanley Kubrick was approached by NASA to fake the footage and that is why he made 2001 as a research project. Again it is fascinating this theory of a faked mooned landing . I love it . Sibrel lies multiple times in that video. He lies that it was accidentally sent to him. he requested available footage and that is what he got. It was NOT classified and part of it was broadcast live at the time. It does not show the capsule in LEO. He deliberately and deceptively cut out footage that proves him wrong. explained here and explained here [link to www.clavius.org] and here [link to www.clavius.org] |
Ostria1 User ID: 74850025 Greece 05/12/2017 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a good analysis on the space radiation issue with graphs Apollo Lunar Astronauts Show Higher Cardiovascular Disease Mortality: Possible Deep Space Radiation Effects on the Vascular Endothelium [link to www.nature.com (secure)] Ostria |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74873585 United States 05/13/2017 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clearly they are hiding something. With the shit technology then. We could go to the moon so much easier now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42917823 I wouldn't call 1960's tech "shit technology" I read that the blue prints for the Saturn 5 rockets that got us to the moon were destroyed / lost years ago. And you read wrong. they are still owned by the company that built it (not NASA, they contract out all builds). But they wouldn't be useful in building a rocket today. First the safety standards have increased, second the manufacturing techniques have changed, and third, when they go back they want to go for longer and with more people so the previous equipment is inadequate for the task. First, the Saturn V (to say nothing of the Command, Service, and Lunar Excursion modules) were built by dozens of different companies operating under three general contractors. NASA has the plans, but not the details. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74873585 United States 05/13/2017 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 options. There is literally nothing there but fucking dirt so its not worth the money. Or they found something big and don't want to talk about it ever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74082468 There is Helium 3 there and in large quantities. Anyone who can return large amounts to Earth will become RICH! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74873585 United States 05/13/2017 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 options. There is literally nothing there but fucking dirt so its not worth the money. Or they found something big and don't want to talk about it ever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74082468 There is Helium 3 there and in large quantities. Anyone who can return large amounts to Earth will become RICH! Production: Current US industrial consumption of helium-3 is approximately 60,000 liters (approximately 8 kg) per year; cost at auction has typically been approximately $100/liter although increasing demand has raised prices to as much as $2,000/liter in recent years.Aug 16, 2014 Helium 3 would be used in Fusion Reactors to create power. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 68914848 Netherlands 05/13/2017 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP here, My question to all of you who say the landing was fake. We launched those rockets. That part wasn't fake. So the astronauts were not one there? Quoting: OP 70394538 You could get numerous different answers with that question. A problem with the Apollo Hoax Conspiracy Theory is that it lacks an actual theory. A Conspiracy Theory is a narration that offers an alternative explanation for the known facts. The Hoax Believers have yet to offer a consistent and comprehensive story that explains how all the evidence for Apollo was faked. Never mind present any actual evidence in support of the theory. Most what you usually get from HBs is statements that they believe Apollo was hoaxed. Somehow... They also have the rather insurmountable problem that each and every one of them doesn't even know what most of the evidenced for Apollo actually is. And, of course, the even more insurmountable problem of being wrong. Production: Current US industrial consumption of helium-3 is approximately 60,000 liters (approximately 8 kg) per year; cost at auction has typically been approximately $100/liter although increasing demand has raised prices to as much as $2,000/liter in recent years.Aug 16, 2014 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74873585 Helium 3 would be used in Fusion Reactors to create power. That's ~$15,000 per gram. Even if you could just pick it up from the lunar surface it prolly wouldn't be profitable. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74882288 Turkey 05/13/2017 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew it was fake as I watched it live in 1969. You would have to be a mental midget to think we could go to the moon on transistors. The astronauts circled the earth for several days while pretending to be on the moon. More than one NASA official said the radio transmissions were coming from earth orbit. The Russians knew it and faked a moon mission too, it was called LUNA and you could see strings holding up the actors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 05/13/2017 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP here, My question to all of you who say the landing was fake. We launched those rockets. That part wasn't fake. So the astronauts were not one there? Quoting: OP 70394538 You could get numerous different answers with that question. A problem with the Apollo Hoax Conspiracy Theory is that it lacks an actual theory. A Conspiracy Theory is a narration that offers an alternative explanation for the known facts. The Hoax Believers have yet to offer a consistent and comprehensive story that explains how all the evidence for Apollo was faked. Never mind present any actual evidence in support of the theory. Most what you usually get from HBs is statements that they believe Apollo was hoaxed. Somehow... They also have the rather insurmountable problem that each and every one of them doesn't even know what most of the evidenced for Apollo actually is. And, of course, the even more insurmountable problem of being wrong. Production: Current US industrial consumption of helium-3 is approximately 60,000 liters (approximately 8 kg) per year; cost at auction has typically been approximately $100/liter although increasing demand has raised prices to as much as $2,000/liter in recent years.Aug 16, 2014 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74873585 Helium 3 would be used in Fusion Reactors to create power. That's ~$15,000 per gram. Even if you could just pick it up from the lunar surface it prolly wouldn't be profitable. like all the water, it's bound-up in the Crust. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 05/13/2017 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 options. There is literally nothing there but fucking dirt so its not worth the money. Or they found something big and don't want to talk about it ever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74082468 There is Helium 3 there and in large quantities. Anyone who can return large amounts to Earth will become RICH! Which would require a processing plant on the Moon to refine as well as the rocketry infrastructure to get there and back regularly. Then they need the industry to use that helium-3 here which they don't have yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 05/13/2017 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew it was fake as I watched it live in 1969. You would have to be a mental midget to think we could go to the moon on transistors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74882288 Because computing power helps so much in lifting objects to orbit The astronauts circled the earth for several days while pretending to be on the moon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74882288 demonstrably false when their rockets were observed leaving Earth orbit, they had live images showing Earth from a distance, and they had live interaction on the surface of the Moon in low gravity and vacuum conditions. More than one NASA official said the radio transmissions were coming from earth orbit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74882288 why do you lie? The Russians knew it and faked a moon mission too, it was called LUNA and you could see strings holding up the actors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74882288 why do you lie? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73095897 Australia 05/13/2017 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Should be the other way around, and I've not been convinced yet by any of the 'proof' we didn't go there. I still love a conspiracy, and I'm sure there were many cold war shenanigans that NASA would rather keep swept under the carpet, like airbrushed photos - just as the Soviets have. Yuri Gagarin NOT being the first man in space for instance. Rather, he was the first man 'to survive' a low earth entry. There's a strong case it was Illyushin, who spent time in China after his craft landed thousands of miles off course. NASA was supposed to be civilian, but at the end of the day, none of it would have happened if it weren't for the various military agencies and military contractors involvement. That alone would account for certain things being kept quiet, or airbrushed out of pictures. Doesn't always have to be aliens... And talking about being thin skinned, what was that layer on the inside of the aluminium skins used on the space craft? We now know it as more of a relationship to current submarine skin tech' which to this day is still classified. They have developed it further again, to current D.D coatings, which ironically are produced in space. Wonder why they wouldnt release that info to the public? There goes all the VAB arguments. The irony is that these stupid arguments about whether we went or not hide very nicely, what the military side of the programs would have you not know or investigate. The controlled opposition is clever and has CT's treading water looking at the same old pics, bringing up the same old arguments. You can be an LB (landing believer) but still have a CT approach to the secrecy of it all. How about investing some energy into what the heck X37B has been up to? Now THAT is something I'd love Dr Astro to track over the months it is up there.... |
DFM8608 User ID: 69424346 United States 05/14/2017 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reflection of the moon surface from the sun made it so bright that the camera aperture was adjusted to only let the needed light through so that the film would not be over exposed. As such, the stars were not bright enough in most photos to get captured in the background. I have analyzed literally hundreds of the digitized photos that were converted from the original film. There are some photos where stars were indeed visible. That happened when the astronaut happened to take a photo where they were mostly pointing the camera upward and away from most of the surface. We went to the moon. I read many of these posts and it boggles my mind as to some of the utter ignorance and stupidity from some people. But, you asked a legit question. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74891993 Mexico 05/14/2017 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Retired aerospace engineer here. During my career I worked for four retired astronauts and have spent some time with a few Apollo astronauts. Quoting: darth 70183558 We found that it cost over 1% of GNP for about 10 years to make a few trips to Luna. That would be in the hundreds of billions today with inflation. We never went back because of an unholy alliance of liberals and conservatives. The libs think that a dollar not spent on welfare or graft is wasted. A few religious right guys thought that Jesus would return soon, so why explore space? Congress barely funded the Shuttle and let NASA turn the Space Station into an international kumbayah boondoggle as well as gravy train of jobs in certain districts. As for technology, we pushed every known material and element in the Periodic Table to its limits. That is why rockets today are about like the rockets of 50 years ago. No new elements available. I applaud the entrepreneurs planning on private space ventures. They are the hope of mankind. You will be able to travel to Luna someday. However, the crew will be speaking Chinese... Thanks for sharing. I had heard that from a friend who had worked for NASA years ago. It really pisses me off when people say we never went to the moon. If we didn't, then why have there been ZERO whistleblowers among the technicians, astronauts, workers at the cape, etc.. ? That alone tells me we went. The only guys that really have to know are the astronauts themselves. And the guys calling the shots. Everyone else can easily be kept in the dark. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73085799 United States 05/14/2017 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Retired aerospace engineer here. During my career I worked for four retired astronauts and have spent some time with a few Apollo astronauts. Quoting: darth 70183558 We found that it cost over 1% of GNP for about 10 years to make a few trips to Luna. That would be in the hundreds of billions today with inflation. We never went back because of an unholy alliance of liberals and conservatives. The libs think that a dollar not spent on welfare or graft is wasted. A few religious right guys thought that Jesus would return soon, so why explore space? Congress barely funded the Shuttle and let NASA turn the Space Station into an international kumbayah boondoggle as well as gravy train of jobs in certain districts. As for technology, we pushed every known material and element in the Periodic Table to its limits. That is why rockets today are about like the rockets of 50 years ago. No new elements available. I applaud the entrepreneurs planning on private space ventures. They are the hope of mankind. You will be able to travel to Luna someday. However, the crew will be speaking Chinese... Thanks for sharing. I had heard that from a friend who had worked for NASA years ago. It really pisses me off when people say we never went to the moon. If we didn't, then why have there been ZERO whistleblowers among the technicians, astronauts, workers at the cape, etc.. ? That alone tells me we went. The only guys that really have to know are the astronauts themselves. And the guys calling the shots. Everyone else can easily be kept in the dark. If that were the case then the contractors would have built equipment capable of getting to the Moon and back. So why not use it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73095897 Australia 05/15/2017 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sassy Granny Thanks for sharing. I had heard that from a friend who had worked for NASA years ago. It really pisses me off when people say we never went to the moon. If we didn't, then why have there been ZERO whistleblowers among the technicians, astronauts, workers at the cape, etc.. ? That alone tells me we went. The only guys that really have to know are the astronauts themselves. And the guys calling the shots. Everyone else can easily be kept in the dark. If that were the case then the contractors would have built equipment capable of getting to the Moon and back. So why not use it? Do you think contractors still have tooling, jigs, skill set for developing and building? Nope. They are on to the next design, the next project. Businesses do not keep all this stuff, it simply costs too much to store. And Govt's dont throw that kind of development money around any more. It is all private funded these days, and that means specific targets. The moon is not a specific target of interest atm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70186654 United States 05/15/2017 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Artemis Rand It really pisses me off when people say we never went to the moon. If we didn't, then why have there been ZERO whistleblowers among the technicians, astronauts, workers at the cape, etc.. ? That alone tells me we went. The only guys that really have to know are the astronauts themselves. And the guys calling the shots. Everyone else can easily be kept in the dark. If that were the case then the contractors would have built equipment capable of getting to the Moon and back. So why not use it? Do you think contractors still have tooling, jigs, skill set for developing and building? Nope. They are on to the next design, the next project. Businesses do not keep all this stuff, it simply costs too much to store. And Govt's dont throw that kind of development money around any more. It is all private funded these days, and that means specific targets. The moon is not a specific target of interest atm. he didn't say for now. He was replying to the idea that it was compartmentalized so much that only a few would have to be in on it. In that case then all the contractors would have built working equipment so no reason not to go. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 68914848 Netherlands 05/15/2017 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA had journalists running all over the place, sticking their noses into stuff and talking to everyone, so the whole 'compartmentalization' thing is pretty much a fantasy any way. Never mind that 10 men and their dogs are not going to fake all the OTHER evidence that isn't "the movie" that hoax believers seem to think is the only evidence for Apollo. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Halcyon Daze User ID: 70077538 United States 05/15/2017 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reflection of the moon surface from the sun made it so bright that the camera aperture was adjusted to only let the needed light through so that the film would not be over exposed. As such, the stars were not bright enough in most photos to get captured in the background. I have analyzed literally hundreds of the digitized photos that were converted from the original film. There are some photos where stars were indeed visible. That happened when the astronaut happened to take a photo where they were mostly pointing the camera upward and away from most of the surface. We went to the moon. I read many of these posts and it boggles my mind as to some of the utter ignorance and stupidity from some people. But, you asked a legit question. Wow..so you've seen stars that virtually nobody else has. But..but...all the "believers" (sheople) claim that the Stars can't be seen because blah blah blah. Remarkable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73095897 Australia 05/15/2017 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74891993 The only guys that really have to know are the astronauts themselves. And the guys calling the shots. Everyone else can easily be kept in the dark. If that were the case then the contractors would have built equipment capable of getting to the Moon and back. So why not use it? Do you think contractors still have tooling, jigs, skill set for developing and building? Nope. They are on to the next design, the next project. Businesses do not keep all this stuff, it simply costs too much to store. And Govt's dont throw that kind of development money around any more. It is all private funded these days, and that means specific targets. The moon is not a specific target of interest atm. he didn't say for now. He was replying to the idea that it was compartmentalized so much that only a few would have to be in on it. In that case then all the contractors would have built working equipment so no reason not to go. Ahh, OK. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72992616 Canada 05/15/2017 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | January 28, 1986. Challenger blows up killing all six Astronauts inside. Fast forward to today. They all have jobs and most didn't even change their names. Two of them even claim to be identical twins to the deceased. Mandela effect or NASA fuckery??? I don't even think anyone is on those things when they blast off. Most of the ISS stuff NASA puts out is so so so so fake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72992616 Canada 05/15/2017 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they found they can't go to the moon, and they can't get to 'outer space' either. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72899362 well, Wernher Von Braun went to his grave satisfied that he made it to the Moon, and that's good enough for me. Von Braun went to his grave and had them put Psalms 19:1 on his tombstone?? Psalm 19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Firmanment huh? Glad the satisfaction of a Nazi rocket scientist is good enough for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 05/15/2017 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they found they can't go to the moon, and they can't get to 'outer space' either. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72899362 well, Wernher Von Braun went to his grave satisfied that he made it to the Moon, and that's good enough for me. Von Braun went to his grave and had them put Psalms 19:1 on his tombstone?? Psalm 19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Firmanment huh? Glad the satisfaction of a Nazi rocket scientist is good enough for you. no. Saturn 5. |