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The facts to focus on during all this POTUS chaos. 3 key things being covered up/ignored. The game is afoot.

 
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Thanks Merit. Was waiting for you to post on this for the past couple of days.
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Thanks Merit. Was waiting for you to post on this for the past couple of days.
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Twas busy and it needed to develop. Once I saw Trump requested the special council I could see the play.
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Trump knows he did nothing so, while they are busy, so is he. He doing what he said he would do.
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Awesome thread posting OP!

Been telling my angry roomie ever since announced that since the reason for a special prosecutor is not specifically defined, and as you put it (paraphrasing) -to sort out all this mess wherever it leads- that when the non-existing Russiagate is answered then look for a tie-in to the Russian hacking claim - and it will lead all the way to the DNS and Hillary. From there.... well... down go the Democrats.

I am placing my bets on August sometime due to the powerful Eclipses.

Then by end of the year Hillary is completely toast. What goes on from there... well... the Democrats will wish they never demanded a special prosecutor. Bingo - heading in to midterm election year.

I do wonder though how far past Hillary Robert M will go. hopefully all the way to Soros but who knows.
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I don't even want to speculate. Leverage is like cash. You can spend it a million different ways. How you use it is only limited by your imagination.

It depends what he gets and how he wants to use it.
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I even saw Jeffrey Toobin, the resident legal putz on CNN, earlier today, he caught himself in a moment of realization and said, oh wow, you know, no one knows where this could actually end up going.

LOL I don't think the libtards are sleeping well tonight...
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The OP is right on, congrats. I will add some conspiracy points...

This was 8-D chess by Trump...

It became obvious to him and his team there must be independent counsel or MSM and Dems are going for the mass suicide. So they made the plan detailed on Trump-Sessions-Rosenstein meeting to agree on IC, but they will remove Comey in the process. So they did and Trump said Rod did it, Rod said I didn and I will quit, Trump said OK I was looking to fire Comey since inauguration...when all played out Dems and MSM got crazy, started calling impeachment, Rod said, OK, I give you guys IC, a good one. Trump said OK, but I am in no fault...and DON, as a real DON, didn't say he will cooperate, hedging he would fire IC if he goes too crazy.

This lil conspiracy will be confirmed if Hilary's case is reopened.
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Oh I should point out that Trump can not fire the special council. That was put in the language. Only Rosenstein can and that Muller is supposed to stay quiet about his investigation. The role of special council is not some reporter to the general public.
He is supposed to keep results confidential unless moving forward on an indictment.

That being said Congress and I think the Senate also can subpoena his findings and make them public if they want.

So that's a little wrinkle added to this for those that think this dude is going to give a big presser sometime.

He likely wont and if you hear "leaks" about his investigation they're bullshit regardless of who they benefit. This old FBI war horse is not leaking to nobody.

We will find about an indictment, get some kind of generic update or all clear, or Congress or the Senate will eventually subpoena his findings if they want them public.

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The OP is right on, congrats. I will add some conspiracy points...

This was 8-D chess by Trump...

It became obvious to him and his team there must be independent counsel or MSM and Dems are going for the mass suicide. So they made the plan detailed on Trump-Sessions-Rosenstein meeting to agree on IC, but they will remove Comey in the process. So they did and Trump said Rod did it, Rod said I didn and I will quit, Trump said OK I was looking to fire Comey since inauguration...when all played out Dems and MSM got crazy, started calling impeachment, Rod said, OK, I give you guys IC, a good one. Trump said OK, but I am in no fault...and DON, as a real DON, didn't say he will cooperate, hedging he would fire IC if he goes too crazy.

This lil conspiracy will be confirmed if Hilary's case is reopened.
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Except for trump being able to fire the special you may be right on.
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In one of the threads someone said the guy got a special pension or something and that no one can fire him. Was a link from a news source.

The worrisome thing is folks are bringing up that he is the former head of the FBI and ergo won't be able to investigate the FBI. He will think they only do the good and right thing. So those same folks are saying that this is the escape hatch for the demonrats to become critical and argumentative if they don't like the direction they think the investigation is going.

Although I pointed out to friends tonight he has them all on tape protesting comey's firing.
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OP is a gentleman and a scholar. It's definitely helpful to come up for air in the toxic news media ocean.

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In one of the threads someone said the guy got a special pension or something and that no one can fire him. Was a link from a news source.

The worrisome thing is folks are bringing up that he is the former head of the FBI and ergo won't be able to investigate the FBI. He will think they only do the good and right thing. So those same folks are saying that this is the escape hatch for the demonrats to become critical and argumentative if they don't like the direction they think the investigation is going.

Although I pointed out to friends tonight he has them all on tape protesting comey's firing.
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They are incorrect. Trump can not fire him. The AG can.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]

In this case the Deputy AG because the AG recused himself.
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OP is a gentleman and a scholar. It's definitely helpful to come up for air in the toxic news media ocean.

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The OP is right on, congrats. I will add some conspiracy points...

This was 8-D chess by Trump...

It became obvious to him and his team there must be independent counsel or MSM and Dems are going for the mass suicide. So they made the plan detailed on Trump-Sessions-Rosenstein meeting to agree on IC, but they will remove Comey in the process. So they did and Trump said Rod did it, Rod said I didn and I will quit, Trump said OK I was looking to fire Comey since inauguration...when all played out Dems and MSM got crazy, started calling impeachment, Rod said, OK, I give you guys IC, a good one. Trump said OK, but I am in no fault...and DON, as a real DON, didn't say he will cooperate, hedging he would fire IC if he goes too crazy.

This lil conspiracy will be confirmed if Hilary's case is reopened.
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Except for trump being able to fire the special you may be right on.
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CNN said only Trump as Prez can fire IC, because they change the law...it was the right of JD to fire him, not Prez, now only the prez can fire IC.
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The OP is right on, congrats. I will add some conspiracy points...

This was 8-D chess by Trump...

It became obvious to him and his team there must be independent counsel or MSM and Dems are going for the mass suicide. So they made the plan detailed on Trump-Sessions-Rosenstein meeting to agree on IC, but they will remove Comey in the process. So they did and Trump said Rod did it, Rod said I didn and I will quit, Trump said OK I was looking to fire Comey since inauguration...when all played out Dems and MSM got crazy, started calling impeachment, Rod said, OK, I give you guys IC, a good one. Trump said OK, but I am in no fault...and DON, as a real DON, didn't say he will cooperate, hedging he would fire IC if he goes too crazy.

This lil conspiracy will be confirmed if Hilary's case is reopened.
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Except for trump being able to fire the special you may be right on.
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CNN said only Trump as Prez can fire IC, because they change the law...it was the right of JD to fire him, not Prez, now only the prez can fire IC.
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1dunno1 CNN is wrong like usual

Here's the actual current law

[link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)]

This law is in place because of like the situation with Nixon firing his special prosecutor.

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There is NO chaos. It's all created by mainstream media and the Democrat party.

It's over for them. This is their shot and it's all manufactured.

People see through it, they are finished.
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Oh noes, Dims, don't throw me in the briar patch.
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Very good synopsis. Thank you, OP.
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If i under stand prophecy right trump spells chaos.
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News today is called: 'Baffle with bullshit'

nough said and the solution is even more easy but for many it is hard to do, turn the tv off.
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Great thread. 5*!

Your premise is well illustrated by the fact that Marco Rubio (often publically critical of the Pres. has a 100% rating.

On Mark Levin's show one of the guest outlined the law stating Jimmy Commie is obligated to report obstruction of justice by anyone on any case. Failure to do so, open him up to prosecution himself and being stripped of his law licence. So he is in a box.

They (the commie alinsky dem party) may have let a genie out of the bottle. They have been living outside the law in their bubble. I hope this is the "darkest before the dawn" part, because it feels pretty dark with the dems acting as if they are in power and have the majorities.
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Great thread. 5*!

Your premise is well illustrated by the fact that Marco Rubio (often publically critical of the Pres. has a 100% rating.

On Mark Levin's show one of the guest outlined the law stating Jimmy Commie is obligated to report obstruction of justice by anyone on any case. Failure to do so, open him up to prosecution himself and being stripped of his law licence. So he is in a box.

They (the commie alinsky dem party) may have let a genie out of the bottle. They have been living outside the law in their bubble. I hope this is the "darkest before the dawn" part, because it feels pretty dark with the dems acting as if they are in power and have the majorities.
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The dim dems have now fallen into their own trap. It will be worthy of popcorn.
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Goodness, thank you for the insights.
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Intelligent and insightful. Thank you, OP.
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There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feinstein

Manchin

Kucinich


Feel free to add examples.



Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So no impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
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Love this, Merit. As usual, you did another great job.
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Naming Mueller would seem to have some bearing on perceived confidence in candidates for the FBI Director, yes?
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There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feinstein

Manchin

Kucinich


Feel free to add examples.



Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So no impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
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TLDR: The mother of all bear traps is being set.
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