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The facts to focus on during all this POTUS chaos. 3 key things being covered up/ignored. The game is afoot.

 
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They expect the prosecutor to call it a wash, so they can screech about a coverup.

They have hit the hornets' nest but it hasn't occurred to them that they may get stung.

Trump is the kind of guy that won't just hand them the stick; he'll SELL IT TO THEM!
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There's the bullshit and then there's the facts! Who's going to end up looking bad? The diapercrats of course! baby
 Quoting: bigD111


In a fact based argument they're toast.

What could happen though has already bern mentioned.

Trump could whitewash the whole thing when he gets the goods on everyone to make them act right.

We'll have to place close attention to how the special investigator words his findings and see if he is leaving paths to further action or closing the loop.
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What a cluster....
 Quoting: bigD111


Politics man...

I couldn't do it. I'd be squirting ppl in the face with a spray bottle everytime they did something stupid trying to train them like a cat.


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They expect the prosecutor to call it a wash, so they can screech about a coverup.

They have hit the hornets' nest but it hasn't occurred to them that they may get stung.

Trump is the kind of guy that won't just hand them the stick; he'll SELL IT TO THEM!
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Nice analogy

not bad


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Re: The facts to focus on during all this POTUS chaos. 3 key things being covered up/ignored. The game is afoot.
There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feel free to add examples.

Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So already we see two things very unlike what we are being fed by the media and even so called other Trump supporters and supposedly well informed right wing political pundits.  I mean right? The testimony of the left and numbers for voting with Trump are right there.

No impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
 Quoting: Merit


5 Stars X 10

Thread of the year.

Bravo!
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Re: The facts to focus on during all this POTUS chaos. 3 key things being covered up/ignored. The game is afoot.
There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feel free to add examples.

Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So already we see two things very unlike what we are being fed by the media and even so called other Trump supporters and supposedly well informed right wing political pundits.  I mean right? The testimony of the left and numbers for voting with Trump are right there.

No impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
 Quoting: Merit


lot of words
little info
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TLDR: The mother of all bear traps is being set.
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Awesome thread posting OP!

Been telling my angry roomie ever since announced that since the reason for a special prosecutor is not specifically defined, and as you put it (paraphrasing) -to sort out all this mess wherever it leads- that when the non-existing Russiagate is answered then look for a tie-in to the Russian hacking claim - and it will lead all the way to the DNS and Hillary. From there.... well... down go the Democrats.

I am placing my bets on August sometime due to the powerful Eclipses.

Then by end of the year Hillary is completely toast. What goes on from there... well... the Democrats will wish they never demanded a special prosecutor. Bingo - heading in to midterm election year.

I do wonder though how far past Hillary Robert M will go. hopefully all the way to Soros but who knows.
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hmm
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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There's the bullshit and then there's the facts! Who's going to end up looking bad? The diapercrats of course! baby
 Quoting: bigD111


In a fact based argument they're toast.

What could happen though has already bern mentioned.

Trump could whitewash the whole thing when he gets the goods on everyone to make them act right.

We'll have to place close attention to how the special investigator words his findings and see if he is leaving paths to further action or closing the loop.
 Quoting: Merit


What a cluster....
 Quoting: bigD111


Politics man...

I couldn't do it. I'd be squirting ppl in the face with a spray bottle everytime they did something stupid trying to train them like a cat.
 Quoting: Merit


I swear to you, I came up with that training mechanism in the 1980's completely independently of anyone or anything else.

I should have patented the approach.

But enough of missing the point of this world-class thread.

As usual,

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Re: The facts to focus on during all this POTUS chaos. 3 key things being covered up/ignored. The game is afoot.
There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feel free to add examples.

Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So already we see two things very unlike what we are being fed by the media and even so called other Trump supporters and supposedly well informed right wing political pundits.  I mean right? The testimony of the left and numbers for voting with Trump are right there.

No impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
 Quoting: Merit


lot of words
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Didn't leave you any room to argue did i? chuckle


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Awesome thread posting OP!

Been telling my angry roomie ever since announced that since the reason for a special prosecutor is not specifically defined, and as you put it (paraphrasing) -to sort out all this mess wherever it leads- that when the non-existing Russiagate is answered then look for a tie-in to the Russian hacking claim - and it will lead all the way to the DNS and Hillary. From there.... well... down go the Democrats.

I am placing my bets on August sometime due to the powerful Eclipses.

Then by end of the year Hillary is completely toast. What goes on from there... well... the Democrats will wish they never demanded a special prosecutor. Bingo - heading in to midterm election year.

I do wonder though how far past Hillary Robert M will go. hopefully all the way to Soros but who knows.
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I don't even want to speculate. Leverage is like cash. You can spend it a million different ways. How you use it is only limited by your imagination.

It depends what he gets and how he wants to use it.


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In a fact based argument they're toast.

What could happen though has already bern mentioned.

Trump could whitewash the whole thing when he gets the goods on everyone to make them act right.

We'll have to place close attention to how the special investigator words his findings and see if he is leaving paths to further action or closing the loop.
 Quoting: Merit


What a cluster....
 Quoting: bigD111


Politics man...

I couldn't do it. I'd be squirting ppl in the face with a spray bottle everytime they did something stupid trying to train them like a cat.
 Quoting: Merit


I swear to you, I came up with that training mechanism in the 1980's completely independently of anyone or anything else.

I should have patented the approach.

But enough of missing the point of this world-class thread.

As usual,

meritright
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In a fact based argument they're toast.

What could happen though has already bern mentioned.

Trump could whitewash the whole thing when he gets the goods on everyone to make them act right.

We'll have to place close attention to how the special investigator words his findings and see if he is leaving paths to further action or closing the loop.
 Quoting: Merit


What a cluster....
 Quoting: bigD111


Politics man...

I couldn't do it. I'd be squirting ppl in the face with a spray bottle everytime they did something stupid trying to train them like a cat.
 Quoting: Merit


I swear to you, I came up with that training mechanism in the 1980's completely independently of anyone or anything else.

I should have patented the approach.

But enough of missing the point of this world-class thread.

As usual,

meritright
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The DemonRats are to old to keep up with this.
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What a cluster....
 Quoting: bigD111


Politics man...

I couldn't do it. I'd be squirting ppl in the face with a spray bottle everytime they did something stupid trying to train them like a cat.
 Quoting: Merit


I swear to you, I came up with that training mechanism in the 1980's completely independently of anyone or anything else.

I should have patented the approach.

But enough of missing the point of this world-class thread.

As usual,

meritright
 Quoting: The Comedian :D


yass

red_heart
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Politics man...

I couldn't do it. I'd be squirting ppl in the face with a spray bottle everytime they did something stupid trying to train them like a cat.
 Quoting: Merit


I swear to you, I came up with that training mechanism in the 1980's completely independently of anyone or anything else.

I should have patented the approach.

But enough of missing the point of this world-class thread.

As usual,

meritright
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yass

red_heart
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 Quoting: Merit


lmao

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I swear to you, I came up with that training mechanism in the 1980's completely independently of anyone or anything else.

I should have patented the approach.

But enough of missing the point of this world-class thread.

As usual,

meritright
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yass

red_heart
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 Quoting: Merit


lmao

smuggy
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I don't think ppl want to hear our pillow talk.


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I don't think ppl want to hear our pillow talk.
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They probably do. You know how it is around here. chuckle

Ok, I'm secretly hoping you find a way to use this smiley tonight:

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I don't think ppl want to hear our pillow talk.
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They probably do. You know how it is around here. chuckle

Ok, I'm secretly hoping you find a way to use this smiley tonight:

factsfeelings
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Won't happen tonight. I'll bump this tomorrow. I'll work it in.


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yass

red_heart
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 Quoting: Merit


lmao

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 Quoting: Merit




Ok. Back to serious political talk! I will stop disrupting the class!
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1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk. Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

No they're not. Top folks have not even said it. Middle folks are saying "we need to follow every lead and get all the evidence until we start using the "i" word" and it's just lower guys saying impeachment so far.

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

So you're saying that loyalty to party means someone who should be impeached shouldn't? Simply because some people like them? But also your 98% number is bologna. Show me where you got that.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

What's your point?
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I don't think ppl want to hear our pillow talk.
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They probably do. You know how it is around here. chuckle

Ok, I'm secretly hoping you find a way to use this smiley tonight:

factsfeelings
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Won't happen tonight. I'll bump this tomorrow. I'll work it in.
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Tomorrow you will be busy with ME. But ok! Tonight I think 99% of people reading this thread are happy to have the reassurance about everything going on this past week in Washington.
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There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feel free to add examples.

Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So already we see two things very unlike what we are being fed by the media and even so called other Trump supporters and supposedly well informed right wing political pundits.  I mean right? The testimony of the left and numbers for voting with Trump are right there.

No impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
 Quoting: Merit


BINGO

&

SUPER BUMP!

The MSM wouldn't be going this insane and sacrificing their "credibility" to 3/4s of the country unless there is something VERY bad waiting to come out that President Trump knows. No one with any sense of strategy or the upper hand would do what they are doing; VICTORS DONT ACT THIS WAY. They are acting with pure reckless abandonment and desperation. You can see the soul crushing disappointment and defeat in the eyes of Feinstein. Something big this way come...
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You've made an awesome point. Some interesting peripheral info will undoubtably come out. I wonder how it will be used.

5 stars!
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1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk. Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

No they're not. Top folks have not even said it. Middle folks are saying "we need to follow every lead and get all the evidence until we start using the "i" word" and it's just lower guys saying impeachment so far.

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

So you're saying that loyalty to party means someone who should be impeached shouldn't? Simply because some people like them? But also your 98% number is bologna. Show me where you got that.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

What's your point?
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1. Nancy Pelosi is as top Democrat as you get. Fail.

2.I linked where I got it from. How the hell did you read that and not see the link?? Calm down. I think you might be spazzing out.

3. My point is Dems are fucked because ppl made up false stories and treated them as real to undermine the president and now he will be exonerated and the left humiliated.

In conclusion:

factsfeelings

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There is a narrative developing behind what the MSM is reporting and spinning. That's normal of course but it's hard to see sometimes unless you know where to look and what to look for. Some of this stuff you all know. It's been discussed on GLP. I'm just going to organize it a little.

First is the suddenly emerging narrative from the left I'm going to call:

"Impeachment? What impeachment? Who said anything about impeachment?"

Pelosi [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Turley

Ken Starr

Feel free to add examples.

Next is the narrative being pushed that Republicans don't support Trump. While that certainly seems true in some ways, in other very important ways it doesn't hold water.


  [link to projects.fivethirtyeight.com (secure)] <-------That link there? A break down of every Republican Senator and Congressman and how they voted in regards to Trump's agenda and policies.  The result? Trump has a success rate with Republicans of over 98% voting with him and his agenda. No shit. Take a look for yourself.

So already we see two things very unlike what we are being fed by the media and even so called other Trump supporters and supposedly well informed right wing political pundits.  I mean right? The testimony of the left and numbers for voting with Trump are right there.

No impeachment, Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump's agenda where it counts.

But not in public hmm

We have those very curious developments and facts to process against what media is trying to tell us and portray and now we have the special council.

First off let me clear something up, special council, special prosecutor, independent investigator are all the same thing.  What they are called has to do with what they are being used for in the private sector. In politics however what they are called simply depends on the spin whoever is speaking is trying to put on their statement. If they want it to sound ominous they will say special prosecutor. If they want to soften the way this persons title sounds they will typically say special council. 

In this case independent investigator best describes him out of the three at this point.
Deputy AG made it very clear in his statement that this is not someone being deployed to investigate POTUS but rather the entire situation we are dealing with. That includes Russia, leaks, rumors, fake news, claims of collusion, all of it. 

This man job is to investigate the whole shit show and prosecute anything/anyone he thinks broke the law.

That is very different again that what they are trying to portray this guy as. There has not been a special prosecutor assigned to POTUS. That is a categorically false statement. There is special council assigned to the entire situation who has the authority to prosecute ANYONE he finds evidence of wrong doing on in the process. Up to and including the POTUS.

His job is to both clear people's names and prosecute people simultaneously if it is warranted. That goes for everyone. His investigation is in no way centered on just POTUS and Russian collusion.

So this is nothing like Nixon. I mean nothing. Not even in the same galaxy.

So we have three important pieces of 100% fact here to not forgot going forward and watching this develop.

1. Democratic figures are suddenly distancing themselves from impeachment talk.  Putting it out there that there is no evidence to suggest such a thing. (Covering their asses so the special prosecutor doesn't come down on the DNC for sedition)

2. Republicans do in fact overwhelmingly support Trump. In the 98 percentile no less. That makes impeachment again highly unlikely when republicans have the majorities.

3. The special council/prosecutor/investigator is not investigating Trump but rather anyone and everyone that has said or claimed to have info that implied President Trump colluded with Russia. He will look at their info, if any really exists, and judge it's validity once and for all and rule on if it is real, inconsequential, fake, etc etc. This would include the dossier and what have you.

He has the authority to demand the DNC server they supposedly denied the FBI from investigating somehow to see if it was hacked for instance to verify the validity of that claim by the Democrats. He can investigate comey and his actions.


So as you can see this guy is very much a double edged sword for everyone involved.  If these things brought against Trump and/or Russia do not pan out as legitimate under investigation this investigation will quickly turn away from Trump and Russia and onto the DNC and leakers.

His job is to investigate and go where the crimes go. That's it.

Have just been laughing at the chaos all day and wanted to point out the things the news is missing or purposely leaving out and others here may not have noticed or realized yet.

It's going to be fun watching all the meltdowns when none of this goes the way the narratives are being pushed.
 Quoting: Merit


BINGO

&

SUPER BUMP!

The MSM wouldn't be going this insane and sacrificing their "credibility" to 3/4s of the country unless there is something VERY bad waiting to come out that President Trump knows. No one with any sense of strategy or the upper hand would do what they are doing; VICTORS DONT ACT THIS WAY. They are acting with pure reckless abandonment and desperation. You can see the soul crushing disappointment and defeat in the eyes of Feinstein. Something big this way come...
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Pelosi is already whining saying this guy isn't unbiased enough lol. She knows what's coming.


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1. Nancy Pelosi is a top Democrat as you get. Fail.

2.I linked where I got it from. How the hell did you read that and not see the link?? Calm down. I think you might be spazzing out.

3. My point is Dems are fucked because ppl made up false stories and treated them as real to undermine the president and now he will be exonerated and the left humiliated.

In conclusion:

factsfeelings
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^^^ That is one perfect smilie.

trumpclappa

YAY! I got my wish thanks to the dimwit AC!

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You've made an awesome point. Some interesting peripheral info will undoubtably come out. I wonder how it will be used.

5 stars!
 Quoting: South Central


Not how we want probably because we want them all lined up and walked off a cliff.


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Thanks Merit. Was waiting for you to post on this for the past couple of days.





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