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the faith of Jesus Christ is a bit suspicious | |
| is this fair User ID: 73733285  Australia05/19/2017 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50173942  United States05/19/2017 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70824227 United States05/19/2017 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | claim, I did sin, was known before i was born, i am not worthy of anything, my free choice of being a sinner condemned me claim, jesus can make me worthy again, if I submit to him as king, then I can be worthy under his rule I think I see a potential strong case for blackmail here, as well as some flaws in logic. first flaw in logic is if something was possible with Jesus, then it should also be possible for me if God doesn't play favorites, otherwise that would b an abusive of power in that you are disabling or labeling one part of creation above another. secondly why would I decide to be an imperfect sinner when that is not what I actually want. If I really had the power to decide, I would rather be perfect than flawed. Even if I did somehow choose with free will to be flawed, which would be fairly illogical, the next issue is why would I want an innocent person to die over me, how does that i anyway make me feel good, or how would that in anyway not shame me. Sure the person who died over me, they could claim glory, but where would that leave me, that would make me into some form of low life that actually made someone die, that's not really a good positio to be in. Wouldn't it be more dignified to accept the punishment, if in fact I deserved a punishment, I don't see how someone perfect dying over me, would make me worthy of anything, but if it did, I would have to consent to this. apparently if I don't consent to the condition that i am flawed of my own fault, that there is someone more worthy than me that HAD TO suffer and die otherwise I HAVE TO PERISH. This to me seems like black mail that is built on a lie.... If you can convince me that this is normal, maybe I have missed something, but if I was to make a best guess, this plan seems to have evil intentions against me, and is trying to make a contract with me, or if I don't accept the contract, is an act of war of my existence, which is fairly aggressive approach. garbage....and from an Aussie---how shocking |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The world you incarnated in is flawed, deal with it. Denial is futile. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50173942 hey cunt maybe you should read the entire post to have a better chance of understanding the context, instead of making demands on me with your shitty once sentence response of garbage. do you have attention deficit disorder, you can eat more spinach and meditate, to increase your concentration levels, then you need to make an effort to grow your intelligence. don't just type demeaning bratty brainless shit out on a page, and expect to be perceived as smart. I am not going to thank you, because your response was shit house, and one sentence long. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72544503  Poland05/19/2017 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | claim, Jesus never sinned an is perfect as God Quoting: is this fair 73733285 claim, I did sin, was known before i was born, i am not worthy of anything, my free choice of being a sinner condemned me claim, jesus can make me worthy again, if I submit to him as king, then I can be worthy under his rule I think I see a potential strong case for blackmail here, as well as some flaws in logic. first flaw in logic is if something was possible with Jesus, then it should also be possible for me if God doesn't play favorites, otherwise that would b an abusive of power in that you are disabling or labeling one part of creation above another. secondly why would I decide to be an imperfect sinner when that is not what I actually want. If I really had the power to decide, I would rather be perfect than flawed. Even if I did somehow choose with free will to be flawed, which would be fairly illogical, the next issue is why would I want an innocent person to die over me, how does that i anyway make me feel good, or how would that in anyway not shame me. Sure the person who died over me, they could claim glory, but where would that leave me, that would make me into some form of low life that actually made someone die, that's not really a good positio to be in. Wouldn't it be more dignified to accept the punishment, if in fact I deserved a punishment, I don't see how someone perfect dying over me, would make me worthy of anything, but if it did, I would have to consent to this. apparently if I don't consent to the condition that i am flawed of my own fault, that there is someone more worthy than me that HAD TO suffer and die otherwise I HAVE TO PERISH. This to me seems like black mail that is built on a lie.... If you can convince me that this is normal, maybe I have missed something, but if I was to make a best guess, this plan seems to have evil intentions against me, and is trying to make a contract with me, or if I don't accept the contract, is an act of war of my existence, which is fairly aggressive approach. Satan already deceived you. Trust me friend, Jesus is the only way to heaven. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74921228  Italy05/19/2017 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey if I had sex with a woman that had a bad iq, and had a child with them, maybe that child would be a bit of a brat, and would cross and my writing out, and scream that it is 'garbage', this is when I would take their dummy away, before they could understand english. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72058540 United States05/19/2017 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is self evident that all die is it not? Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70824227 United States05/19/2017 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey if I had sex with a woman that had a bad iq, and had a child with them, maybe that child would be a bit of a brat, and would cross and my writing out, and scream that it is 'garbage', this is when I would take their dummy away, before they could understand english. "if" being the operative word...we both know you don't attract women at all----even the low IQ ones. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus is a patsi king lighting rod Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74921228 scapegoat and casus belli golem who is guilty of anything they do he wants to extermiante your whole race from the face of earth hwtaevre race is your one well my suspicion is that either Jesus had evil intentions or his message was badly distorted by people with evil intentions. the bible claims to not be corrupted in it's words, so that would leave Jesus at fault for the madness. who ever it is, it's making a threat against us, at the same time it is offering us some type of contract.... but the story behind it, is it's our fault.... |
GLP Effect  User ID: 30976588 United States05/19/2017 09:34 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you can't trust God who can you trust? Pray this prayer to blind Satan: [link to flameoflove.us (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74920596  United Kingdom05/19/2017 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You take assumptions and run with them, never once examining the assumptions to see if they are even truthful to begin with. Fact: eternal life is a gift of God. Fact: you can NOT EARN it. Fact: That life IS IN THE SON So should you not reconsider first your assumptions because you will then see that every conclusion you reached from them is false. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74920596 United Kingdom05/19/2017 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus is a patsi king lighting rod Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74921228 scapegoat and casus belli golem who is guilty of anything they do he wants to extermiante your whole race from the face of earth hwtaevre race is your one well my suspicion is that either Jesus had evil intentions or his message was badly distorted by people with evil intentions. the bible claims to not be corrupted in it's words, so that would leave Jesus at fault for the madness. who ever it is, it's making a threat against us, at the same time it is offering us some type of contract.... but the story behind it, is it's our fault.... All men are tempted by their OWN WICKED DESIRES. now what do you have to say to the truth? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "if" being the operative word...we both know you don't attract women at all----even the low IQ ones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70824227 you seem to have your information incorrect or are just a liar, I got the green light from a med student did I not you fucking toxic little parasite... So this means I am the cure fuckface, you identify yourself as the disease. |
| Desertwolf User ID: 74609357 United States05/19/2017 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why worry so much about Christianity. Maybe listen to some Rabbi Tobias Singer. He really helps educate persons on how wrong the Christian interpretations of the Scriptures are. Christians use Eisegesis, that means that they come to the bible with a fully formed belief and search to find evidence of this. Exegesis is when your beliefs are formed by the words of the text. I personally do not think Jesus was a historical person. And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram I FIGHT FOR ROME!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74801056 United States05/19/2017 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74920596 United Kingdom05/19/2017 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 17So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the nations do, in the futility of their thinking. 18They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. 19Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed. 20That, however, is not the way of life you learned 21when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. 22You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off THE OLD MAN which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24and to put on THE NEW MAN, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. 25Therefore each of you must put off THE LIE and speak TRUTHFULLY to your neighbour So it seems to be that you uphold THE LIE and insist that THE OLD MAN is not being corrupted by his deceitful desires. As long as you maintain this as your truth, you will never see any need for Jesus Christ. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74920596 United Kingdom05/19/2017 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72058540 So God creates the devil, but then has to use death, to destroy the power of the devil, which is death. I see a potential flaw in logic, why create the power of death with the devil, then use the devils power of death, to defeat death again... Isn't this going around in circles....seems like a deception. if you want something gone, you should have not created it, if it held no value....but why is this becoming our problem, why does the burden have to be on us......we didn't want the devil, we never wanted 'death' as a power over us. So is that really our free choice. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this was true, Jesus is the only one allowed in heaven together with 'friends that he picks'. It's saying only Jesus can give approval and judge. This is a bit self centered because one entity alone shouldn't hold the keys to all of heaven by them self. that's a total dictatorship, it would make more sense if heaven was a place that you could earn through your own ability. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone claims to be God, should they also be calling you inferior, and saying that they have to die, or you should die if you don't believe it. Isn't that a bad attitude. Why would that be worthy of something to trust.... I'm not closed minded because I don't run away from discussion an end things with 'the bible says so'. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70714847  Netherlands05/19/2017 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If someone claims to be God, should they also be calling you inferior, and saying that they have to die, or you should die if you don't believe it. Isn't that a bad attitude. Why would that be worthy of something to trust.... I'm not closed minded because I don't run away from discussion an end things with 'the bible says so'. It's because humans are retards and it has to be drilled into their heads for centuries before they stop murdering and raping or being controlled by murderers and rapists. That's why death pain and sex exist. To show that only allknowing beings are smart and you should listen to them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70714847 Netherlands05/19/2017 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70714847 Netherlands05/19/2017 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73879375 United States05/19/2017 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70714847 Netherlands05/19/2017 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70714847 Netherlands05/19/2017 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70824227 United States05/19/2017 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | calling Jesus "self-centered".....typical Aussie garbage. and FYI, Jesus will be your judge: 2 Corinthians 5: 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. that "all" includes you, so mocking Jesus, the one who will be your judge, is probably not a real smart thing to do.....but then again Aussies aren't really known for high intellect. also, nobody can earn or work their way into heaven. And yes Jesus is the one "entity" as you put it, that holds the key to heaven..and rightfully so for his sacrifice on the cross. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70714847 Netherlands05/19/2017 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73733285 Australia05/19/2017 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what about the deceitful desires of 'i died for you, if you don't make me king you are not worthy, you have to fight me if you want to be king like me, do everything i say and submit to what I want forever, I am the chosen king an god for eternity, you are a subject of my eternal kingdom, or i will destroy you, my love is the best for you, you have a duty to love me above anyone without any condition. wouldn't that be a 'deceitful desire'. What desire is more deceitful than that philosophy...... |
