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the faith of Jesus Christ is a bit suspicious

 
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being corrupted by its deceitful desires;
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what about the deceitful desires of 'i died for you, if you don't make me king you are not worthy, you have to fight me if you want to be king like me, do everything i say and submit to what I want forever, I am the chosen king an god for eternity, you are a subject of my eternal kingdom, or i will destroy you, my love is the best for you, you have a duty to love me above anyone without any condition.

wouldn't that be a 'deceitful desire'. What desire is more deceitful than that philosophy......
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Jesus is already king.......he earned it, you didn't. and you will bow to him and confess him as King of Kings and Lord of Lords one day soon.

Philippians 2:10-11 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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claim, Jesus never sinned an is perfect as God
claim, I did sin, was known before i was born, i am not worthy of anything, my free choice of being a sinner condemned me

claim, jesus can make me worthy again, if I submit to him as king, then I can be worthy under his rule


I think I see a potential strong case for blackmail here, as well as some flaws in logic.

first flaw in logic is if something was possible with Jesus, then it should also be possible for me if God doesn't play favorites, otherwise that would b an abusive of power in that you are disabling or labeling one part of creation above another.

secondly why would I decide to be an imperfect sinner when that is not what I actually want. If I really had the power to decide, I would rather be perfect than flawed. Even if I did somehow choose with free will to be flawed, which would be fairly illogical, the next issue is why would I want an innocent person to die over me, how does that i anyway make me feel good, or how would that in anyway not shame me. Sure the person who died over me, they could claim glory, but where would that leave me, that would make me into some form of low life that actually made someone die, that's not really a good positio to be in. Wouldn't it be more dignified to accept the punishment, if in fact I deserved a punishment, I don't see how someone perfect dying over me, would make me worthy of anything, but if it did, I would have to consent to this.

apparently if I don't consent to the condition that i am flawed of my own fault, that there is someone more worthy than me that HAD TO suffer and die otherwise I HAVE TO PERISH.

This to me seems like black mail that is built on a lie....

If you can convince me that this is normal, maybe I have missed something, but if I was to make a best guess, this plan seems to have evil intentions against me, and is trying to make a contract with me, or if I don't accept the contract, is an act of war of my existence, which is fairly aggressive approach.
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Read 1 corinthians 1 and see the foolishness of your mind in full display
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That's why death pain and sex exist. To show that only allknowing beings are smart and you should listen to them.
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why would you need 'death, pain, and sex' to demonstrate that 'you should listen to me'.

If you are using death, pain, or sex, against someone, that would be a weapon. How is that different from putting a gun to someone's head and saying, if you don't listen I'm going to pull to trigger.

that's assault.....not wisdom.
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Jesus will be your judge:

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why would Jesus be able to judge me when it was my life, not his. I think a fair deal might be that 'I will judge his life if he judges my life' That's if it was a good idea to judge another life at all, other than your own.

lets face it if you didn't live the life, you shouldn't be judging that life. Only the one that lived it is the judge of it.
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OP i know jesus personally. He is not perfect. And you can be as pure as him if you try hard enough.
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The premise of your reasoning is flawed from the start. Jesus Christ IS God. And your very breath is because he wills it. Worship Him as your Creator that you'll start to understand what He did and is doing for you.
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Jesus will be your judge:

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why would Jesus be able to judge me when it was my life, not his. I think a fair deal might be that 'I will judge his life if he judges my life' That's if it was a good idea to judge another life at all, other than your own.

lets face it if you didn't live the life, you shouldn't be judging that life. Only the one that lived it is the judge of it.

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garbage. you are nothing but one of satan's little aussie assholes attempting to mock and malign Jesus.....you're not very good at it. take your crap elsewhere
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Thread: A city of gentiles was forgiven without any sacrifice
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Read 1 corinthians 1 and see the foolishness of your mind in full display
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if you want to debate me, I don't want you to be saying 'read the bible for your answers' or 'the bible insulted you so you are dumb' my claim is that the bible itself has a problem....so that is the actual writing in question.

if you wrote a book that you knew was a threat against someone or a black mail, you might say 'anyone that don't believe my book is a silly one' now that might sound childish, and it is, and that's exactly what the bible has done, to protect itself from the critical thought of others.
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When you accept Jesus you don't become a slave under him. You are reborn, made new, and are new righteous and holy. An heir/family member with God.
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Jesus will be your judge:

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why would Jesus be able to judge me when it was my life, not his. I think a fair deal might be that 'I will judge his life if he judges my life' That's if it was a good idea to judge another life at all, other than your own.

lets face it if you didn't live the life, you shouldn't be judging that life. Only the one that lived it is the judge of it.
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You will condem yourself.
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You aren't being blackmailed. You are in debt and he payed it.
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You ask why you would choose to be imperfect. So why did you choose that?are you perfect?
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Read 1 corinthians 1 and see the foolishness of your mind in full display
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if you want to debate me, I don't want you to be saying 'read the bible for your answers' or 'the bible insulted you so you are dumb' my claim is that the bible itself has a problem....so that is the actual writing in question.

if you wrote a book that you knew was a threat against someone or a black mail, you might say 'anyone that don't believe my book is a silly one' now that might sound childish, and it is, and that's exactly what the bible has done, to protect itself from the critical thought of others.
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Your problem is the truth is in the Word but you insist on arguments that are not of the Word. Go to verse 18 and read about yourself.
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garbage. you are nothing but one of satan's little aussie assholes attempting to mock and malign Jesus.....you're not very good at it. take your crap elsewhere
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Satan is not responsible for creation in this story, so how can satan be blamed. If I was 'satans little asshole' is that because i refused the contract of the jesus sacrifice, or wanted to talk about the logic behind why I must accept myself as worthy of nothing.

you don't provide any remedy here because either 'you are not worthy' or if you don't accept that 'you are satans asshole'

if there isn't equal opportunity, that's a dictatorship, which is founded on an attempt at oppression. In this case it is our souls which must submit to Jesus the king, but Jesus isn't actually a person, so we are not receiving any direct clear orders, we re given a book, but a book is not something you want to give to your crew if you go away.

for example a military commander, doesn't leave his post and say, here is a book to fight the war while i go somewhere that you cannot....

this wouldn't make any sense, you are suppose to fight th war being present and clearly in command, not leave your post and give the soldiers a book to fight over, that would be doomed to fail.
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You are reborn, made new, and are new righteous and holy.
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People who accept Jesus still age, they still get old, and they still died, so this statement is a demonstrated lie isn't it.
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You will condem yourself.
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you can't actually predict how I will judge my own life you fucking cockhead....

face me you cunt, I'm ready to slaughter you in a debate of intelligence
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You aren't being blackmailed. You are in debt and he payed it.
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how about you are in debt to me and I paid off something that you owe your soul too me for.

does that sound like a rip off, then don't say it to me you fucking cunt.
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You will condem yourself.
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you can't actually predict how I will judge my own life you fucking cockhead....

face me you cunt, I'm ready to slaughter you in a debate of intelligence
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I've read the replies so far, and I don't think you have any worthy challengers.

For that reason, I am speaking up.

Not to debate you but to put the debate to rest.


Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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You aren't being blackmailed. You are in debt and he payed it.
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how about you are in debt to me and I paid off something that you owe your soul too me for.

does that sound like a rip off, then don't say it to me you fucking cunt.
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Satan has you deceived. Your arguments will fall like sandcastles when you finally stand before God. Accept the gift of love that Jesus gave to you before it us too late.
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You will condem yourself.
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you can't actually predict how I will judge my own life you fucking cockhead....

face me you cunt, I'm ready to slaughter you in a debate of intelligence
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I've read the replies so far, and I don't think you have any worthy challengers.

For that reason, I am speaking up.

Not to debate you but to put the debate to rest.


Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do so, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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See?

Everyone, ever day, enters judgement upon them self.
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Your problem is the truth is in the Word
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the word is english, I'm speaking english, you are reading the word, right now.

this is what the word says at this time. You are a fucking dumb cunt.

the time an location of the word, is it's address, in this case it's today at glp, and according to the word, you are a fucking dumb cunt, look at the word it is written here, you are an insulting cunt, said the word.....

you can't argue with the word, it's written here....
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claim, Jesus never sinned an is perfect as God
claim, I did sin, was known before i was born, i am not worthy of anything, my free choice of being a sinner condemned me

claim, jesus can make me worthy again, if I submit to him as king, then I can be worthy under his rule


I think I see a potential strong case for blackmail here, as well as some flaws in logic.

first flaw in logic is if something was possible with Jesus, then it should also be possible for me if God doesn't play favorites, otherwise that would b an abusive of power in that you are disabling or labeling one part of creation above another.

secondly why would I decide to be an imperfect sinner when that is not what I actually want. If I really had the power to decide, I would rather be perfect than flawed. Even if I did somehow choose with free will to be flawed, which would be fairly illogical, the next issue is why would I want an innocent person to die over me, how does that i anyway make me feel good, or how would that in anyway not shame me. Sure the person who died over me, they could claim glory, but where would that leave me, that would make me into some form of low life that actually made someone die, that's not really a good positio to be in. Wouldn't it be more dignified to accept the punishment, if in fact I deserved a punishment, I don't see how someone perfect dying over me, would make me worthy of anything, but if it did, I would have to consent to this.

apparently if I don't consent to the condition that i am flawed of my own fault, that there is someone more worthy than me that HAD TO suffer and die otherwise I HAVE TO PERISH.

This to me seems like black mail that is built on a lie....

If you can convince me that this is normal, maybe I have missed something, but if I was to make a best guess, this plan seems to have evil intentions against me, and is trying to make a contract with me, or if I don't accept the contract, is an act of war of my existence, which is fairly aggressive approach.
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and why do I care what you think ?

Romans 1

Yet All Are Guilty

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men. In unrighteousness they suppress the truth, 19 because what can be known about God is plain to them—for God has shown it to them. 20 His invisible attributes—His eternal power and His divine nature—have been clearly seen ever since the creation of the world, being understood through the things that have been made.[d] So people are without excuse— 21 for even though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. Instead, their thinking became futile, and their senseless hearts were made dark. [e] 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools. 23 They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an image in the form of mortal man and birds and four-footed beasts and creeping things.[f]

24 Therefore God gave them over in the evil desires of their hearts to impurity, to dishonor their bodies with one another. 25 They traded the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creation rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
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Your problem is the truth is in the Word
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the word is english, I'm speaking english, you are reading the word, right now.

this is what the word says at this time. You are a fucking dumb cunt.

the time an location of the word, is it's address, in this case it's today at glp, and according to the word, you are a fucking dumb cunt, look at the word it is written here, you are an insulting cunt, said the word.....

you can't argue with the word, it's written here....
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YOUR word is worthless. GOD'S Word is truth.
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The world you incarnated in is flawed, deal with it. Denial is futile.
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hey cunt maybe you should read the entire post to have a better chance of understanding the context, instead of making demands on me with your shitty once sentence response of garbage.

do you have attention deficit disorder, you can eat more spinach and meditate, to increase your concentration levels, then you need to make an effort to grow your intelligence.

don't just type demeaning bratty brainless shit out on a page, and expect to be perceived as smart. I am not going to thank you, because your response was shit house, and one sentence long.
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Shut up asshole and go fuck yourself
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You will condem yourself.
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you can't actually predict how I will judge my own life you fucking cockhead....

face me you cunt, I'm ready to slaughter you in a debate of intelligence
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I've read the replies so far, and I don't think you have any worthy challengers.

For that reason, I am speaking up.

Not to debate you but to put the debate to rest.


Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do so, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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See?

Everyone, ever day, enters judgement upon them self.
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Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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In my heart already, I am crowned, so in this instance God would be pretty fucked if he didn't want me crowned, the he has lost hasn't he.
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claim, Jesus never sinned an is perfect as God
claim, I did sin, was known before i was born, i am not worthy of anything, my free choice of being a sinner condemned me

claim, jesus can make me worthy again, if I submit to him as king, then I can be worthy under his rule


I think I see a potential strong case for blackmail here, as well as some flaws in logic.

first flaw in logic is if something was possible with Jesus, then it should also be possible for me if God doesn't play favorites, otherwise that would b an abusive of power in that you are disabling or labeling one part of creation above another.

secondly why would I decide to be an imperfect sinner when that is not what I actually want. If I really had the power to decide, I would rather be perfect than flawed. Even if I did somehow choose with free will to be flawed, which would be fairly illogical, the next issue is why would I want an innocent person to die over me, how does that i anyway make me feel good, or how would that in anyway not shame me. Sure the person who died over me, they could claim glory, but where would that leave me, that would make me into some form of low life that actually made someone die, that's not really a good positio to be in. Wouldn't it be more dignified to accept the punishment, if in fact I deserved a punishment, I don't see how someone perfect dying over me, would make me worthy of anything, but if it did, I would have to consent to this.

apparently if I don't consent to the condition that i am flawed of my own fault, that there is someone more worthy than me that HAD TO suffer and die otherwise I HAVE TO PERISH.

This to me seems like black mail that is built on a lie....

If you can convince me that this is normal, maybe I have missed something, but if I was to make a best guess, this plan seems to have evil intentions against me, and is trying to make a contract with me, or if I don't accept the contract, is an act of war of my existence, which is fairly aggressive approach.
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YOUR word is worthless. GOD'S Word is truth.
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In science there is the table of the elements, one element don't say to another element that it is false.

You can't take one part of creation and say that it's 'worthless' when it's basically the same stuff that made God.

can you see how much of a cunt you are yet, keep trying.


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