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the faith of Jesus Christ is a bit suspicious

 
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Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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In my heart already, I am crowned, so in this instance God would be pretty fucked if he didn't want me crowned, the he has lost hasn't he.
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No man can declare himself righteous. He can however accept the gift of righteous covering by believing in the one Son of God was came in righteousness and paid our debt.
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Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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In my heart already, I am crowned, so in this instance God would be pretty fucked if he didn't want me crowned, the he has lost hasn't he.
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I never lose.

It is good that you are Crowned in the heart, for that is where God writes his commandments, which your own tongue professes, and it is the nature of being born again.

But what happens when you wash a filthy glass on the inside only?

Which is why Jesus warned that you cannot serve two masters.

That Crown on your heart must manifest in the world for you to enter into the eternal Kingdom, for one who is King inwardly, while remaining in bondage outwardly, is only deluding them self.

God bless you and have a wonder filled day.
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Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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In my heart already, I am crowned, so in this instance God would be pretty fucked if he didn't want me crowned, the he has lost hasn't he.
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No man can declare himself righteous. He can however accept the gift of righteous covering by believing in the one Son of God was came in righteousness and paid our debt.
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Mind your business.
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Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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In my heart already, I am crowned, so in this instance God would be pretty fucked if he didn't want me crowned, the he has lost hasn't he.
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I never lose.

It is good that you are Crowned in the heart, for that is where God writes his commandments, which your own tongue professes, and it is the nature of being born again.

But what happens when you wash a filthy glass on the inside only?

Which is why Jesus warned that you cannot serve two masters.

That Crown on your heart must manifest in the world for you to enter into the eternal Kingdom, for one who is King inwardly, while remaining in bondage outwardly, is only deluding them self.

God bless you and have a wonder filled day.
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Thread: Good Morning.
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Yet All Are Guilty
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If you wanted to be a prick you could definitely say 'everyone is guilty', but in the end, it is one opinion of many. I might say that the person who says 'everyone is guilty' not only is the most guilty, but probably has something to hide aswel, not only that they would have to be super insecure, to see everyone as guilty. what's worse is this is a judgment based on a entity that says created all the guilty ones. that's convenient that they all ended up guilty, what a co-incidence.
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Yet All Are Guilty
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If you wanted to be a prick you could definitely say 'everyone is guilty', but in the end, it is one opinion of many. I might say that the person who says 'everyone is guilty' not only is the most guilty, but probably has something to hide aswel, not only that they would have to be super insecure, to see everyone as guilty. what's worse is this is a judgment based on a entity that says created all the guilty ones. that's convenient that they all ended up guilty, what a co-incidence.
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Glory be to God Almighty, the Spirit in whom we move and have our being (the Father) and who being is within ALL that is, was, and will EVER be (the Son).

Guilty are they who do not believe, shamed are they who believe, but do not act according to the Truth.
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You are only demonstrating your ignorance by such a statement.

Jesus is defied that's true. But he deserves what notoriety he has earned.

He is/was a protector of the human race...and all should be grateful!
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You are only demonstrating your ignorance by such a statement.

Jesus is defied that's true. But he deserves what notoriety he has earned.

He is/was a protector of the human race...and all should be grateful!
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"HUMAN" is a word used by the United Nations.

"Man" is the image of God.

"Mankind" is who Jesus came to save.
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You are only demonstrating your ignorance by such a statement.

Jesus is defied that's true. But he deserves what notoriety he has earned.

He is/was a protector of the human race...and all should be grateful!
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"HUMAN" is a word used by the United Nations.

"Man" is the image of God.

"Mankind" is who Jesus came to save.
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That's important to know, because MAN is Sovereign, having Dominion of the Earth.

HUMAN is people owned by the United Nations.
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No man can declare himself righteous. He can however accept the gift of righteous covering by believing in the one Son of God was came in righteousness and paid our debt.
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no man can say he is righteous, but the man that is Jesus can say he is righteous, cause he is 'special', oh and you have a massive debt, but he is so great he paid it off, so now you owe Jesus heeps.

if this was a game of chess, basically the person that is Jesus gets to have all the pieces, but the other side has to be ready for checkmate no matter what, and must go without bishop, or any defences, because the Jesus is special so you cannot say that you have a condition that is Jesus.

sounds like a little brat that is making the rules of a game where you are just not allowed to win.

imagine if I created a game where I am the champion automatically. That is someone that would have to be really frightened of losing.
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claim, Jesus never sinned an is perfect as God
claim, I did sin, was known before i was born, i am not worthy of anything, my free choice of being a sinner condemned me

claim, jesus can make me worthy again, if I submit to him as king, then I can be worthy under his rule


I think I see a potential strong case for blackmail here, as well as some flaws in logic.

first flaw in logic is if something was possible with Jesus, then it should also be possible for me if God doesn't play favorites, otherwise that would b an abusive of power in that you are disabling or labeling one part of creation above another.

secondly why would I decide to be an imperfect sinner when that is not what I actually want. If I really had the power to decide, I would rather be perfect than flawed. Even if I did somehow choose with free will to be flawed, which would be fairly illogical, the next issue is why would I want an innocent person to die over me, how does that i anyway make me feel good, or how would that in anyway not shame me. Sure the person who died over me, they could claim glory, but where would that leave me, that would make me into some form of low life that actually made someone die, that's not really a good positio to be in. Wouldn't it be more dignified to accept the punishment, if in fact I deserved a punishment, I don't see how someone perfect dying over me, would make me worthy of anything, but if it did, I would have to consent to this.

apparently if I don't consent to the condition that i am flawed of my own fault, that there is someone more worthy than me that HAD TO suffer and die otherwise I HAVE TO PERISH.

This to me seems like black mail that is built on a lie....

If you can convince me that this is normal, maybe I have missed something, but if I was to make a best guess, this plan seems to have evil intentions against me, and is trying to make a contract with me, or if I don't accept the contract, is an act of war of my existence, which is fairly aggressive approach.
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It is possible with you 'through' HIM JESUS!

All things are possible with GOD.

It was black mail that you chose to sin and JESUS did not. No you sinned as did I and any other person. We made that decision, as did the first person Adam. But HE JESUS never did.

You can take anyone back in time, be it John, Moses, Paul, Elija, Mary and they would have done sin. This is why JESUS is the perfect sacrifice for us. The problem was sin but HE came because HE LOVED us.
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YOUR word is worthless. GOD'S Word is truth.
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In science there is the table of the elements, one element don't say to another element that it is false.

You can't take one part of creation and say that it's 'worthless' when it's basically the same stuff that made God.

can you see how much of a cunt you are yet, keep trying.
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Just because you were created by God does not mean you have the Truth of God within you. Your word does not equal His. God gave you free will to accept Him. You choose to deny His Word. Your eternal savation hangs in the balance. Repent of your sinful pride and self adulation.
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Pick up your Crown if God Almighty has given you the strength to do do, if you cannot, your bondage is ordained by the same.
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In my heart already, I am crowned, so in this instance God would be pretty fucked if he didn't want me crowned, the he has lost hasn't he.
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No man can declare himself righteous. He can however accept the gift of righteous covering by believing in the one Son of God was came in righteousness and paid our debt.
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Amen.
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"Mankind" is who Jesus came to save.
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he must have failed so far cause we are still stuck in time. everything cost heeps, We can't even have knowledge without computers cause our brains cannot encode a lot of information without extreme effort of learning.

If Jesus wanted to save us, we have to understand failure when it occurs, not to say he is a champion but yet we still have the same problems before he arrived.

anyone can say they are special, the bible has being pushed around a lot, but it's being pushed around with a gun and military behind it, you can make your book popular if you market it with a war over hundreds of years...

my book would be great too if went out slaughtering everyone and dominating the countries, cause my book would be the only book left, cause it won all the wars....

the problem is now i am questioning the intelligence of the book itself, not just because it won.
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No man can declare himself righteous. He can however accept the gift of righteous covering by believing in the one Son of God was came in righteousness and paid our debt.
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no man can say he is righteous, but the man that is Jesus can say he is righteous, cause he is 'special', oh and you have a massive debt, but he is so great he paid it off, so now you owe Jesus heeps.

if this was a game of chess, basically the person that is Jesus gets to have all the pieces, but the other side has to be ready for checkmate no matter what, and must go without bishop, or any defences, because the Jesus is special so you cannot say that you have a condition that is Jesus.

sounds like a little brat that is making the rules of a game where you are just not allowed to win.

imagine if I created a game where I am the champion automatically. That is someone that would have to be really frightened of losing.
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But you didnt create this world. This is not your 'game'. You are God's creation and subject to His designs and His will. He created man in perfection, but with free will. The lies of Satan decieved him and man fell into sin. You are still loved by God. He calls all back to Him. There is no sin too great for the Cross to cover.
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"Mankind" is who Jesus came to save.
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he must have failed so far cause we are still stuck in time. everything cost heeps, We can't even have knowledge without computers cause our brains cannot encode a lot of information without extreme effort of learning.

If Jesus wanted to save us, we have to understand failure when it occurs, not to say he is a champion but yet we still have the same problems before he arrived.

anyone can say they are special, the bible has being pushed around a lot, but it's being pushed around with a gun and military behind it, you can make your book popular if you market it with a war over hundreds of years...

my book would be great too if went out slaughtering everyone and dominating the countries, cause my book would be the only book left, cause it won all the wars....

the problem is now i am questioning the intelligence of the book itself, not just becaus
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the Word does not instruct men to spread through violence but through servitude, humility and love. That is not to say the Word has not been used by wicked men to gain power and weatlth in the name of it. You are speaking of the Koranwhich does instruct to be spread through violence and deception.
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Which is why Jesus warned that you cannot serve two masters.

God bless you and have a wonder filled day.
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why would you need to serve a master at all unless you made yourself into a slave. Warning that you can't serve two masters is the first concession that you have choosen the slave life.
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Jesus is God the word himself become flesh
Gods command from his lips the very word of God nade flesh
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Op you're trying to use logic against the illogical.

Most of these people have been taught since a young age these things and they have deeply rooted subconscious fears of eternal hell that I think *prevents* them from questioning these things.

Truly, nothing about this world/reality makes sense.

We're here in these bodies, forced to eat or go hungry and die slowly and painfully. If that doesn't make you question things I don't know what will.

We have powerful minds but physical reality does not bend to it, you have to use physical hands or tools to get anything done.

I'm agnostic and don't know anything really. I don't know why we're so subjected to physical matter when I *believe* we could be so much more than what we are.

Why is *anything* the way it is? I can think of many many many other better realities I would rather be in.
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Which is why Jesus warned that you cannot serve two masters.

God bless you and have a wonder filled day.
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why would you need to serve a master at all unless you made yourself into a slave. Warning that you can't serve two masters is the first concession that you have choosen the slave life.
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Adam the first man sinned
Adam was the son of God the head of eve

As in adam all die so IN christ all shall live
Christ means anointed
By Gods spirit
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Op you're trying to use logic against the illogical.

Most of these people have been taught since a young age these things and they have deeply rooted subconscious fears of eternal hell that I think *prevents* them from questioning these things.

Truly, nothing about this world/reality makes sense.

We're here in these bodies, forced to eat or go hungry and die slowly and painfully. If that doesn't make you question things I don't know what will.

We have powerful minds but physical reality does not bend to it, you have to use physical hands or tools to get anything done.

I'm agnostic and don't know anything really. I don't know why we're so subjected to physical matter when I *believe* we could be so much more than what we are.

Why is *anything* the way it is? I can think of many many many other better realities I would rather be in.
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1 corinthians 1 verse 18-31
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You are only demonstrating your ignorance by such a statement.

Jesus is defied that's true. But he deserves what notoriety he has earned.

He is/was a protector of the human race...and all should be grateful!
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"HUMAN" is a word used by the United Nations.

"Man" is the image of God.

"Mankind" is who Jesus came to save.
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Higher Universal Man is not a U.N. term.

He "died" to save his people there that they should live to spread the message. We are responsible for our own actions. There is no automatic redemption.
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But you didnt create this world. This is not your 'game'. You are God's creation and subject to His designs and His will. He created man in perfection, but with free will. The lies of Satan decieved him and man fell into sin. You are still loved by God. He calls all back to Him. There is no sin too great for the Cross to cover.
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if this 'is not my game' then you need the menu to exit it, cause this game kind of sucks with the rules structured in this way. Why would I want to play a game where someone already is the winner before you even start. To have a game you have to consent to the rules. But the rules have to be even for every player, unless you want to give someone a handicap, in this situation Jesus is given the headstart of being the ultimate savior of everyone and the king of heaven forever. That's a pretty big headstart, he must be pretty handicapped to need that rule.

and what about us, we have to be sinners, and also separated from God unless Jesus agrees.So basically in this game we are truly fucked from the beginning in every way possible by someone with a massive headstart. This is th sort of game that a cult leader would create to ensure the slavery of the other players....

what about the new game of calling out the bullshit as we see it.
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He is/was a protector of the human race...and all should be grateful!
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what did he actually protect, other than his own ass in a book which makes him the ultimate winner forever.
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Op you're trying to use logic against the illogical.

Most of these people have been taught since a young age these things and they have deeply rooted subconscious fears of eternal hell that I think *prevents* them from questioning these things.

Truly, nothing about this world/reality makes sense.

We're here in these bodies, forced to eat or go hungry and die slowly and painfully. If that doesn't make you question things I don't know what will.

We have powerful minds but physical reality does not bend to it, you have to use physical hands or tools to get anything done.

I'm agnostic and don't know anything really. I don't know why we're so subjected to physical matter when I *believe* we could be so much more than what we are.

Why is *anything* the way it is? I can think of many many many other better realities I would rather be in.
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1 corinthians 1 verse 18-31
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sounds like a jack ass that likes to play mind games
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That's why death pain and sex exist. To show that only allknowing beings are smart and you should listen to them.
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why would you need 'death, pain, and sex' to demonstrate that 'you should listen to me'.

If you are using death, pain, or sex, against someone, that would be a weapon. How is that different from putting a gun to someone's head and saying, if you don't listen I'm going to pull to trigger.

that's assault.....not wisdom.
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Your still ignorant. I thought you would help me with advice, but you are ignorant as anyone else.
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That's why death pain and sex exist. To show that only allknowing beings are smart and you should listen to them.
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why would you need 'death, pain, and sex' to demonstrate that 'you should listen to me'.

If you are using death, pain, or sex, against someone, that would be a weapon. How is that different from putting a gun to someone's head and saying, if you don't listen I'm going to pull to trigger.

that's assault.....not wisdom.
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No one's encouraging rape and murder. HUmans do it themselves. Overcome and then you can say you know what iti s like to be knowing.
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OP still doesn't know his ignorance is why he questions the truth.
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Jesus will be your judge:

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why would Jesus be able to judge me when it was my life, not his. I think a fair deal might be that 'I will judge his life if he judges my life' That's if it was a good idea to judge another life at all, other than your own.

lets face it if you didn't live the life, you shouldn't be judging that life. Only the one that lived it is the judge of it.
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YAHUSHUWAH created you and you will listen to your government so you will bow to what is infinitely greater and infinitely just and righteous and fair than anything you believe in, even yourself.


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